Motel Invasion !

RKO

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Three weeks ago Miss Baby and I took delivery of a Honda Ridgeline and started off for her spring break to visit my son, his wife and their first born in Phoenix, AZ. We had made reservations at a motel in Big Spring, TX. It was raining when we checked in about 2200 and were given room 101, ground floor, outside access, closest to the office. It seemed just right. However, at 0200 we were awaken by screams of profanity and threats, in both English and Spanish. Without turning on a room light I peeked through the curtains and saw a latino male, approximately 25-30, and a latina, age not determined.They were shouting at someone in the next room, 102, to open the door. Judging from his screams in English, he was not about to do so. Only two cars were visible, our Ridgeline, and a battered red Toyota Carolla, undetermined vintage and ownership. The shouts from all three, in both English and Spanish, continued, but now someone was shouting 101, our room number. I called the office and reported the disturbance outside, urging that the police be called as violence seemed eminent. The office clerk said he was aware of the ongoing incident and had called the local police.

After about 15 minutes, no police had arrived and the shouting and screaming continued, with our room number, 101 being said repeatedly.
It occurred to me that the two latinos might think our Ridgeline belonged to whomever they were trying to get to come out.

I then realized that I had no flashlight in the room, and only a five-shot Chiefs Special. What if they started to vandalize our Ridgeline, or break down our door? After what seemed an eternity, I remembered that I had brought my Dillon bag inside, rather than leave it on the vehicle. In the bag was my Glock 19, 8 15-round magazines and one 30 round magazine, plus the Glock light which fitted on to the 19. The feeling of relief was very, very welcome. I had Miss Baby move to the floor on the far side of the bed. I took a position where I could continue to surveil the outside through the a crack in the curtains while sitting on the floor, with the Glock, now fitted with 30-rd magazine and light.

Strangely, I begin to realize I've done this before, a flashback to one dark night, April 1968, Cao Lanh town, Kien Phong Province, the Mekong Delta, SVN. I and two other Americans, in the Embassy House, when a VC Main Force battalion came across the Vietnamese/Cambodia border, with the mission of wiping out the SVN administration in the town and occupying it. The sitting and waiting, hoping to get a clear shot, all the while waiting for Spookie to arrive, seemed to be happening again.

This time however the police never arrived. I remembered that Texas law is very specific in that one can use lethal force to protect one's person, and also to stop the theft or damage of one's property, particularly at night. I made up my mind that if anyone tried to vandalize or steal the Ridgeline, or made a determined attempt to force open our door, I would give them one short verbal warning, then followed, if necessary, with a Mozambique or two from the Glock. Finally after some 30 minutes, the angry two got into the red car and departed. Was I happy to see them go? Yes, for Miss Baby's benefit, but I must admit that the urge to shoot was getting stronger and stronger, just as it had been at the Embassy House so many years ago.

RKO
 
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Three weeks ago Miss Baby and I took delivery of a Honda Ridgeline and started off for her spring break to visit my son, his wife and their first born in Phoenix, AZ. We had made reservations at a motel in Big Spring, TX. It was raining when we checked in about 2200 and were given room 101, ground floor, outside access, closest to the office. It seemed just right. However, at 0200 we were awaken by screams of profanity and threats, in both English and Spanish. Without turning on a room light I peeked through the curtains and saw a latino male, approximately 25-30, and a latina, age not determined.They were shouting at someone in the next room, 102, to open the door. Judging from his screams in English, he was not about to do so. Only two cars were visible, our Ridgeline, and a battered red Toyota Carolla, undetermined vintage and ownership. The shouts from all three, in both English and Spanish, continued, but now someone was shouting 101, our room number. I called the office and reported the disturbance outside, urging that the police be called as violence seemed eminent. The office clerk said he was aware of the ongoing incident and had called the local police.

After about 15 minutes, no police had arrived and the shouting and screaming continued, with our room number, 101 being said repeatedly.
It occurred to me that the two latinos might think our Ridgeline belonged to whomever they were trying to get to come out.

I then realized that I had no flashlight in the room, and only a five-shot Chiefs Special. What if they started to vandalize our Ridgeline, or break down our door? After what seemed an eternity, I remembered that I had brought my Dillon bag inside, rather than leave it on the vehicle. In the bag was my Glock 19, 8 15-round magazines and one 30 round magazine, plus the Glock light which fitted on to the 19. The feeling of relief was very, very welcome. I had Miss Baby move to the floor on the far side of the bed. I took a position where I could continue to surveil the outside through the a crack in the curtains while sitting on the floor, with the Glock, now fitted with 30-rd magazine and light.

Strangely, I begin to realize I've done this before, a flashback to one dark night, April 1968, Cao Lanh town, Kien Phong Province, the Mekong Delta, SVN. I and two other Americans, in the Embassy House, when a VC Main Force battalion came across the Vietnamese/Cambodia border, with the mission of wiping out the SVN administration in the town and occupying it. The sitting and waiting, hoping to get a clear shot, all the while waiting for Spookie to arrive, seemed to be happening again.

This time however the police never arrived. I remembered that Texas law is very specific in that one can use lethal force to protect one's person, and also to stop the theft or damage of one's property, particularly at night. I made up my mind that if anyone tried to vandalize or steal the Ridgeline, or made a determined attempt to force open our door, I would give them one short verbal warning, then followed, if necessary, with a Mozambique or two from the Glock. Finally after some 30 minutes, the angry two got into the red car and departed. Was I happy to see them go? Yes, for Miss Baby's benefit, but I must admit that the urge to shoot was getting stronger and stronger, just as it had been at the Embassy House so many years ago.

RKO
 
Sorry our state didn't treat you better. Hope the rest of the trip was uneventful...at least for things like that.
 
And my ex never could understand why I felt the need to be armed on trips like that . . .
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Her attitude was "We're no threat to anyone, why would they bother us ?"

She lives in a fairy tale world.
 
Get any sleep that night? I'd have gotten back in the truck and left.
 
Keith,

Glad to know that everything worked out for the best. And it's odd, isn't it, that in times of stress how our minds take us to places that we've been before. Almost as if our subconscious is saying, "Don't worry, we've dealt with this before, nothing new."
 
I'm glad you made it through that one without an more of an incident. Did you ever see the people in the room next to you? Did you get a refund or discount on the room? Did you get the license plate number of the car? Lots of questions.
 
I told this one before, but some probley didnt see it. Back in the late 60s I and a buddy, a real small and lot older than me, were on a motorcycle trip and at a motel in I think modesto or fresno california. My buddy woke me in a dead sleep yelling for me to call the police. He was pushing against the door in a small alcove and somebody was pushing the door from the hall trying to get in. I was naked as a jaybrid, I got up and tryed to pull my buddy out of the way so I could coldkock the person. (I wasnt old and feeble back then, and feared no one). Finaly the guy won and the door opened but my buddy was between us. The guy was a skinny tall mexican about my heigth, he seen me trying to pull my buddy out of the way and ran down the hall and out. I wasnt about to run outside naked, so had to pull on my pants and boots as I cant run 10 feet on pavement unshod!
I grabed up my model 60 and put it in my pocket. I caught him in the drive out by the street. This motor lodge was in down town and people and traffic was still heavey as we had stopped early from a long ride where we had started out at midnight after work the night before. I hadnt put on a shrit or even a T-shirt and as I weighed almost 3 spins of the scale, was a spectable with my **** hanging.
He was locked in, but couldnt move for a few secounds because of street traffic and astonished people walking in front of his car. He yelled from behind the window that was rolled down a inch or two that he thought someone else was in the room. Sorry to say, I just let him drive away! I never did flash my gun. I thought had I done anything further I might be in worse trouble than him.
After that and another incident or two, I refuse to trip unarmed.
About a year ago when I had my nose cut off, the wife and I had to go to salt lake for my operation. We got a room that the wife would need to stay in while I stayed in the hospital. She was paranoid about keeping my revolver along for the stay as she doesnt have a ccw as I do. Against my better judgement we didnt take a gun. The check out clerk was brusied up and I asked him about it. He admitted he was robbed and beaten the prior night! I turned to my wife and said, NEVER AGAIN!
 
Here are responses to some of the posts re subject:
Clayton - When in the US I live in the Neutral Zone, that historic area between Louisiana and Texas. I'm used to violence.
BarbC - sleep afterward? Miss Baby claims she did not sleep for hours afterward. I had no trouble sleeping soundly.
Celtic Sire - How right you are. All those things you thought were far in the past suddenly
reappear when you need them.
IGiveUp - License plates on red Toyota - none on front end. Did not see the rear. Person in 101, sounded like a single anglo. What happened?
My analysis is that the anglo made a date with the latina to come to his motel room, 102. When she showed up with her "business manager" the anglo changed his mind. It could have been worse, like a small drug deal gone bad, or someone getting short-changed. My major concern was to protect Miss Baby, myself and the Ridgeline, in that order, with lethal force, if necessary.

RKO
 
My wife stayed in a few questionable hotels when she PCS'd from Bremerton to out here. The most memorable of which had a crack pipe laying outside. Ah the joys of places chosen at random by sole virtue of being conveniently located off the interstate.

At the time, the only firearm that I had for the trip was a Mossberg 500. An adequate if workmanlike weapon. I simply took to sleeping with it (condition three) next to me. Considering the circumstances that I used to live in, that was like old home week and not terribly uncomfortable or unfamiliar. (Body armor makes a workable pillow if you throw a towel over it.)

Odd and intermittently violent encounters seem to take place with some regularity at hotels.
 
You REMEMBERED you DIDN'T leave a gun and 150 rounds of ammo in your car?!?!

Not sure what's worse...forgetting you didn't have it with you or failing to recall you may have left it in your car.
 
Big D,
You may not know what is worse, but I surely do, not remembering that I brought the Dillon Concealed Carry Tote into the motel room.
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Normally I would have left it in the vehicle as hotel rooms, when one leaves them, are the worst places to leave guns and notebook computers. In this case I made a conscious decision not to leave the gun bag and computer in the car because I knew we were not leaving the hotel room that night, and the inherent risk of a new, desirable vehicle, with temp plates, loaded with luggage, in an unattended parking in lot in southcentral Texas, now feeling the pressure of northward moving Mexican violence. My error was not
positioning the bag next to my side of the bed where I might have been more conscious of it when the shouting and screaming woke us up at 2:00 AM. My Chief Special was what I grabbed first. I don't know how many minutes it took me to remember that there was a much better option available, the contents of the Dillon Tote Bag, the Glock and its Glock light, plus the high cap mags. Anyway, the decision to get the Tote Bag and notebook computer out of the vehicle was
the right one. As the threat of random violent crime gets larger here along the US/Mexican border I will be more even more careful about what I leave in a car or a hotel room, and what I carry.
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RKO
 
I knew the owner of a gunshop in palmdale calif years ago that was going to sturgis. He had his and I think a buddys harleys on a trailer. They stopped at a motel around denver, came out in the morning, and the trailer and harleys were gone!
 
Never rely on someone else to call the cops - the call to the office was not in your best interests. Use your cell and dial 911.
 
Originally posted by Doug M.:
Never rely on someone else to call the cops - the call to the office was not in your best interests. Use your cell and dial 911.

You are so right!
Everything went well, but I would not have cared at all about that Ridgeline, it is just a car/truck, there is insurance and I can always buy a new one if I an still alive after this.

I once stopped at a rather cheap motel in the middle of nowhere (it seemed to be the only place around) and there were a bunch of Hells Angels having a party in front of the rooms at 2 in the morning.
After they all got pretty drunk they climbed on the parked cars/trucks and pi$$ed down and all kind of things, as you might imagine.
I did not even bother to call front desk or police. Front desk was afraid to do anything and police showing up would have made the situation dangerous I thought.
I was right they got their fun and after fooling around they disapeared into their rooms.
We couldn´t get no sleep afterwards and left very early. Lesson learned: KNOW BEFORE YOU GO!
(and never stay at a cheap place in the middle of nowhere)
 
Once in the very early 60s I was traveling somewhere in wyoming. I was very tired after driveing close to 900 miles and as usual next to broke. I went to a old hotel and asked for a cheap room and got my wish!
I just got sleeping good and the cowboy band fired up! I pulled a old dirty throw rug back, and looked down the open heat register straight down on the band! Sometimes ya get whatcha pay for!
 
Originally posted by BarbC:
Get any sleep that night? I'd have gotten back in the truck and left.

Plus 1.

Used to travel a lot with the wife and daughter following my son's baseball addiction. Seemed like the a lot of the places we went frowned on handguns. On those occasions, I always took a Remington 1100 Special Field -- The upland game version with the 24" barrel. That gun was a major comfort on several occasions. Also used it to shoot some skeet during down time.

Paul
 
My motel story is fairly tame, but maybe illustrates the wisdom of not overreacting.

I was in Houston after visiting a friend, and was staying in one of the better known chain motels. No worries until I woke at about two AM to hear someone trying to get into my room window.

My only firearm was a S&W M-29, 6.5-inch barrel, which I'd brought to show my friend when we met earlier. It was loaded with 240 grain Remington JSP's, because I was out of JHP ammo. To save anyone asking, it had factory original smooth rosewood target grips, but I don't recall that they were Cokes. Might have been; I wasn't as attuned to that back then.

I was concerned about overpenetration in the circumstances, but a great deal more concerned about someone needing to be shot.

I peeked out, and sure enough, there was a big guy fumbling at the window. I wanted to wait until he forced an entry before letting him have it, and I was going to verbally warn him, if only to be able to say that I had.

Turned out to be a drunk, whose wife soon arrived and took him in tow. He had the wrong room, and had forgotten or lost his key.

They never knew what risk he had taken.

Since, I've made a point of taking a more suitable defense gun. Not that I've felt the need for a 30-round magazine... Using that might suggest to cops and a prosecutor that I "was looking for trouble."
No offense to the OP, but that may be worth considering. Unless maybe you're staying in a place like Oakland.
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But you probably can't take guns into California, anyway.

T--Star
P.S. I don't have a lot of faith in door chains. A strong guy will pop them as he forces the door. But the damaged door/chain will substantiante that your door was forced. It never hurts to have a little positive evidence on your side.
 
In this case I made a conscious decision not to leave the gun bag and computer in the car because I knew we were not leaving the hotel room that night, and the inherent risk of a new, desirable vehicle, with temp plates, loaded with luggage, in an unattended parking in lot in southcentral Texas, now feeling the pressure of northward moving Mexican violence.

This week three guys from England came to San Antonio for their Spring Break. As soon as they arrived they were carjacked and spent the next several hours driving around getting money for the 2 guys who had them. I know this type of thing can happen anywhere these days, but in the Southwestern states it is becoming common. We had a shoot out in front of the city hall in Gonzales this month. It was the kind of thing you see in Northern Mexico all the time. These families just didn't like each other and didn't mind going at each other in broad daylight on the main street through town. Some of the same crowd had a car to car gun battle driving past an elementary school a few months before. Gonzales is a small town with only about 7000 people, and hour and a half from the nearest large town. The whole lawless spirit just seems to be seeping in from Mexico.
 
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