MP 2.0 Compact 4" New Owner - Stock trigger vs Apex?

[Amp]

I agree as others have said the 2.0 is already good.
However I just ordered the flat trigger kit by Apex for my range gun.
My SW22 target gun has shown me that I feel the flat trigger much better and it also increases the reach for me.
Again this is a range gun only for me.

 

[marathonrunner]

I agree as others have said the 2.0 is already good.
However I just ordered the flat trigger kit by Apex for my range gun.
My SW22 target gun has shown me that I feel the flat trigger much better and it also increases the reach for me.
Again this is a range gun only for me.

Today for the first time went to range with my newly purchased MP Compact 2.0 and for self defense distances the stock trigger is fine no need for apex. However, for 50ft distance definitely an apex will help keep groups about softball size. With my 2.0 stock trigger, I was getting combat accuracy at 50ft but the 6lb trigger was definitely a cause for groups not being as tight as I wanted. My PPQ with the apex flat face I can get tighter groups but still only combat accurate.

 

[chp]

I can't imagine that an Apex trigger would be enough of an improvement over the stock 2.0 trigger to justify the cost, especially after dry firing and shooting a few hundred rounds. Anyway, that's the determination I made for myself with my Shield.

The Apex sear is about $45 and make a meaningful difference in the trigger pull. Agreed on the Apex trigger.

 

[Lindy]

In my experience the trigger on the 2.0's is great and I will not touch any part of it.

 

[Canyon Man]

I put the Apex trigger in my 2.0 compact .40 cal., and my five inch .40 cal and my 9mm 2.0's are next. First off was for trigger reach. I have long fingers and it helps dramatically on the comfort level on my trigger pull.

SECOND: It's more reliable !!!!!! Thaaaaaat's right I said it ! Yes, I'm the fool who submerges his pistol in water to make sure it works, and they do...But also, and yes I'm most likely the only one alive who has found this. FACT - I also have thrown dirt and sand on them, while dry AND while wet. The factory trigger - and this happens on Glocks too - will just go dead when sand gets into them - meaning you pull the trigger and nothing happens, AND they have trouble or will not reset after pulling the trigger. The Apex triggers do NOT do this. They pull and fire successfully when dirty, and reset without a problem. I take very good care of my guns, but I do test them to find their limits. And yes I have waded through rivers, wade fished, and laid in dirt or sand while firing rifles with a pistol on my hip. I need to know...If more people would actually train somewhere else besides the range and in only good weather, perhaps things like this would be found by others.

The Apex trigger also has much less trigger travel than the stock trigger too. I'm in the camp of just get the flatty Apex trigger and don't look back. It makes the pistol better to shoot - like 1911 type good trigger - AND it's more reliable.

I have spoken ! Here endeth the lesson ! lol

 

[dla]

I put the Apex trigger in my 2.0 compact .40 cal., and my five inch .40 cal and my 9mm 2.0's are next. First off was for trigger reach. I have long fingers and it helps dramatically on the comfort level on my trigger pull.

SECOND: It's more reliable !!!!!! Thaaaaaat's right I said it ! Yes, I'm the fool who submerges his pistol in water to make sure it works, and they do...But also, and yes I'm most likely the only one alive who has found this. FACT - I also have thrown dirt and sand on them, while dry AND while wet. The factory trigger - and this happens on Glocks too - will just go dead when sand gets into them - meaning you pull the trigger and nothing happens, AND they have trouble or will not reset after pulling the trigger. The Apex triggers do NOT do this. They pull and fire successfully when dirty, and reset without a problem. I take very good care of my guns, but I do test them to find their limits. And yes I have waded through rivers, wade fished, and laid in dirt or sand while firing rifles with a pistol on my hip. I need to know...If more people would actually train somewhere else besides the range and in only good weather, perhaps things like this would be found by others.

The Apex trigger also has much less trigger travel than the stock trigger too. I'm in the camp of just get the flatty Apex trigger and don't look back. It makes the pistol better to shoot - like 1911 type good trigger - AND it's more reliable.

I have spoken ! Here endeth the lesson ! lol

Hmmmm, I can't argue with your M&P experience, but I take exception to your Glock uh-hem "stories". The amount of crud you have to get into a Glock to create a dead trigger is ridiculous. So unless a guy is planning on storming Fallujah by digging a tunnel using only his pistol - I think the stock trigger mechanism is plenty reliable.

 

[BigDog48]

Today for the first time went to range with my newly purchased MP Compact 2.0 and for self defense distances the stock trigger is fine no need for apex. However, for 50ft distance definitely an apex will help keep groups about softball size. With my 2.0 stock trigger, I was getting combat accuracy at 50ft but the 6lb trigger was definitely a cause for groups not being as tight as I wanted. My PPQ with the apex flat face I can get tighter groups but still only combat accurate.

For what it's worth, most self defense shots are less than half of 50 feet. Claiming self defense to the police when the person is more than 15 yards away is a tough sell, unless they're already shooting at you. If so, your first step should be seeking cover, quickly.

 

[marathonrunner]

For what it's worth, most self defense shots are less than half of 50 feet. Claiming self defense to the police when the person is more than 15 yards away is a tough sell, unless they're already shooting at you. If so, your first step should be seeking cover, quickly.

yes very true but if you get an active shooter situation, for instance at my church there are many of us who have CCW and we already know we may be required to hit past 21ft if the situation calls for it. I think if someone storms in with a long gun, the closest we could probably get is 50ft.

I carry my MP 2.0 in the 4" when I am working outside sweating all day because the stainless magazines help prevent rust. But when I got to church, I carry my P320 X5 Legion because it's very accurate. Ideally would prefer my FN Five Seven but the stock trigger kind of sucks so anything past 21ft not too good

 

[JNewell]

I can't imagine that an Apex trigger would be enough of an improvement over the stock 2.0 trigger to justify the cost, especially after dry firing and shooting a few hundred rounds. Anyway, that's the determination I made for myself with my Shield.

Agree, and in my personal experience some aftermarket triggers tend to pinch my finger where the stock trigger did not. Obviously YMMV on that.

 

[tnmandpshooter]

I can't imagine that an Apex trigger would be enough of an improvement over the stock 2.0 trigger to justify the cost, especially after dry firing and shooting a few hundred rounds. Anyway, that's the determination I made for myself with my Shield

You're wrong

Mine was 7.5 pounds and gritty stock with long pull and long reset.

Installed the apex sear kit, striker plunger, and the curved trigger. I left the stock m&p springs in for reliability.


It's now 4.5 pounds, has near zero take up, and minimal reset.

Tell me again how it's not worth it for that?

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[Lindy]

For what it's worth, most self defense shots are less than half of 50 feet. Claiming self defense to the police when the person is more than 15 yards away is a tough sell, unless they're already shooting at you. If so, your first step should be seeking cover, quickly.

This should be brought up way more often. Follow a forum or watch a YouTube video that talks about rifles and self defense shots at 50 yards and the right optic. I then counter with "exactly when is it OK to take a "self defense" shot past 15 yards".

In my state that wont fly unless it is something like an active shooter. Even then there will be someone on the side of the law saying you can't be sure where missed rounds are going etc, etc, etc. I honestly think that 10 yards might be hard to defend in court. Most states say you have a duty to flee if you can.

 

[wnderr]

I never thought of my 9c as having a bad trigger! But, the 2.0 is better. Likewise the 2.0 Shield.

Running a few hunnert rounds thru either will help them, and they really do become better. They all get smoother with use.

Personally, I see nothing wrong with either, as I didn't buy them for target competition. I bought them as every day carry weapons. For that, a more "think things thru" trigger is advantageous.

They both work well for their intended purpose - I'm sticking with the OEM.

 

[gc70]

anyway how many here prefer the stock over Apex or vise versa? I dont' think in slow fire I would notice that much of a difference, only in doing double taps I am thinking

Buy an Apex trigger or you will always imagine you are missing out on something. If you don't like the Apex trigger, you can always remove it and sell it to recoup much of the purchase price.

 

[marathonrunner]

Uggg!!! My MP 2.0 stock trigger feels fine and for distances up to 30ft I prefer a trigger that I can prep as I am pushing it out to engage a target. With the Apex, I find that you wouldn't want to do that or risk firing the gun before you were ready to. I personally think the apex would only be ideal for distances up to 50ft.

 

[Dave686]

All triggers are not created equal. I would not have believed how much difference there is if it hadn’t been the case with my own guns. I had previously had two full size and two compact M&P40 Black Case guns with LEO SKU’s. The triggers were nothing to brag about, but they were okay; I never felt the need to change them.

I wanted a target gun, so I bought a PERFORMANCE CENTER M&P9L PRO SERIES C.O.R.E. It had the worst trigger I have ever seen on a handgun in my life. (Over 40 years of buying S&W’s). I figured it was just a case of their worst guy in the Performance Center working on it after a liquid lunch and they would fix it. Nope, two trips back to S&W and they say nothing is wrong with it. I bought an Apex trigger for it.

Thursday I should be getting my New M&P40 2.0 Compact 4”. Hopefully it will have a better trigger, but Buds had a price good enough that if I need to add an Apex; so be it.

 

[marathonrunner]

All triggers are not created equal. I would not have believed how much difference there is if it hadn’t been the case with my own guns. I had previously had two full size and two compact M&P40 Black Case guns with LEO SKU’s. The triggers were nothing to brag about, but they were okay; I never felt the need to change them.

I wanted a target gun, so I bought a PERFORMANCE CENTER M&P9L PRO SERIES C.O.R.E. It had the worst trigger I have ever seen on a handgun in my life. (Over 40 years of buying S&W’s). I figured it was just a case of their worst guy in the Performance Center working on it after a liquid lunch and they would fix it. Nope, two trips back to S&W and they say nothing is wrong with it. I bought an Apex trigger for it.

Thursday I should be getting my New M&P40 2.0 Compact 4”. Hopefully it will have a better trigger, but Buds had a price good enough that if I need to add an Apex; so be it.

Apex makes a great trigger kit but when you are pressing the gun out and prepping the trigger it is way too light. The stock 2.0 is very good and has a very clear wall. The Apex is crisp but wouldn't want to be using that in a self defense situation.

 

[Dave686]

Apex makes a great trigger kit but when you are pressing the gun out and prepping the trigger it is way too light. The Apex is crisp but wouldn't want to be using that in a self defense situation.

I’ve not experienced that with mine. I foresee no problem if I need to use it. As a matter of fact it’s a lot nicer than the garbage trigger that was on the Performance Center, but not as smooth as I expected based on user comments.

The stock 2.0 is very good

Lets hop so; I should find out Thursday.

 

[JNewell]

My 2.0 4" Compact had a very good trigger out of the box.

Because I was going to disassemble it to delete the thumb safety, I ordered the Apex 2.0 sear and installed it at the same time.

It's a bit crisper and has a slightly more distinct reset, and I'm not worried about the cost of the sear, but I don't think I'd do it again on a pistol that started where this one was.

As a comment or opinion, no one - in my opinion - should be prepping the trigger on a striker-fired gun, at least not any that I've ever fired. Even a Glock with a NY2 shouldn't be prepped. Leave that to the first round on a DA/SA pistol (if you must), recognizing that if you "prep" the second shot you're going to have, at the very least, a negligent discharge. It's really best left to DA revolvers with long, relatively heavy trigger strokes.

 

[Dave686]

I got my 2.0 4” Compact and the trigger is okay. It is far better than my last one that was a "Performance Center" "Pro Series" gun. I won’t need to add an Apex to it. I do hope LPA starts making adjustable white outline sights with a front post I can add to it. I hate 3 dot sights.

 

[theothermikeg]

You're wrong

Mine was 7.5 pounds and gritty stock with long pull and long reset.

Installed the apex sear kit, striker plunger, and the curved trigger. I left the stock m&p springs in for reliability.


It's now 4.5 pounds, has near zero take up, and minimal reset.

Tell me again how it's not worth it for that?

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Congratulations on your success, I love when people tell me that my experience is wrong.

Please note that I said that I made that determination FOR MYSELF. My trigger was not 7.5 lbs or gritty and it only took a few hundred rounds for me to become very comfortable with the stock pull. Plus, I don't want a 4.5 lb trigger on a my carry gun. Just a reminder that your experience is not universal.