Mr. Ross Seyfried's article on .340 Wby. Mag.

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Dear friends: First, please apologize as that has not much to do with Smith & Wesson "per se". I am (still) a big fan of gun author Mr. Ross Seyfried's classic writings. He has certainly influenced me a great deal when I started reading Guns and Ammo magazine starting somewhere in year 1990. What I've always missed and could never find was his article on his favorite hunting cartridge back then, which used to be the .340 Weatherby Magnum. Guess, it appeared in an issue well before I started reading G&A. When he left I've lost track of him, but still re-read and re-read again his articles. Some of the best were "20 Years with the .44 Magnum", ".416 Rigby" and "7 mm Mauser - Smallbore Blockbuster". I have acquired some firearms just because he lit my interest in them through his writings...

Any idea where I can get hold of that .340 Weatherby Magnum article by Mr. Seyfried? Any advice would be welcome.

Thanks and have a great weekend.
 
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I think he's now on the staff of the Double Gun Journal as he always was a big classic double gun enthusiast. You might want to try and contact him thru that publication.
Jim
 
In the mid 80s he lived out in Roggen, Colorado and was dating Jo Anne Hall (there's a blast from the past). She was still competing, I had the chance to go out to the ranch and spent the afternoon with them both. It was a great time, Ross was a complete gentleman, and Jo Anne was a sweetheart.

I had read a few of his books prior and we ran some rounds through our 4 inch 29s, Jo Anne demonstrated her prowess on speed drills on metal plates with her custom .38 Super (if I remember right it was a Wilson build as I had one too).

Hadn't thought about that day for a long time, thank you for the refresher.
 
Ross has always been one of my favorites. I followed his advice on revolver shooting and several other subjects. I also own a .340 on a Rem. action. His later comment on the .33 caliber rifles was that the Barnes bullets made the .338 Win. everything that was needed in .33.
I still use the 225 Partitions on elk in my .340 with good effect. It was nice to read someone who really didn't need the job. He picked his subjects & developed them wonderfully. His work on heavy cast bullets in revolvers broke new ground, but even then he gave great credit to those who came before him. (LBT)
 
I think he left Handloader and Rifle, but they may have his back articles or his address. Or, he may still write there. Been awhile since I saw an issue.

If you recall where the .340 story appeared, just write to the publisher and see if they sell back issues or can copy one. For a foreign reader, they might make an added effort.

I used to know Jo Anne Hall, and can attest that her handgun skills were/are exceptional. She coached my young son in handling a 45 auto one day in her back yard and he said that what he learned stood him in good stead later in Iraq, where he used pistols to save his hide on several occasions. I taught him, too, but I think Jo Anne made more of an impression on him. :D She was not only World Champion lady in IPSC shooting in one year, but was a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader. She also wrote briefly for G&A, and holds a degree in Journalism. She impressed me as being quite bright. I'm glad that the poster above got to see her shoot.
It must have been a treat.

I've never fired a .340 Weatherby, but it seems an excellent cartridge for the intended purpose. I think it might be a good round for polar bear, where low temperatures might drain some velocity.

Congratulations to the OP for his excellent English. :)
 
I have had two different 340 wby. rifles. don't buy one if you are recoil sensitive because they have some. it is about like a 375 h&h but with sharper recoil.
 
My .340 WBY MK V ss has a muzzle break, so the recoil is not
Bad. 1" 5 shot groups is ok with such a powerful rifle.
Only take it Elk & bear hunting.
Load Barnes 250 gr TSX.


Does that copper coat your bore? I have a friend who tried Barnes bullets and swore that after he FINALLY got his bore clean that he'd never shoot another round loaded with a Barnes bullet!

I think I'd prefer Nosler Partitions.
 
Dear Gentlemen: Thanks a lot for your time and efforts to respond to my post and your suggestions where I can locate the article about the .340 Weatherby Magnum by Mr. Seyfried. Your opinion on him as a gun writer and the tales back from the old tales are highly appreciated. If you have more to follow please do not hold back and share them. I love listening to good old stories.

I don't know whether you do agree, but in my opinion, "Guns & Ammo" was an outstanding magazine in the time frame 1990 to 1996 or so. Reading it was like sitting down with a bunch of experienced older gentlemen willing to share their vast knowledge with a then-young fellow like me.

At that time, I also started shooting, especially with handguns, so Mr. Seyfried's advice and hints were particularly useful. He belongs to the few most accomplished handgunners who turned to gun writing. Even though I am not of Mr. Seyfried's physique and size, up until year 1997, I even simulated his characteristic style of Weaver Stance, with bend elbows, head tilted down and finger curled around the trigger guard to eliminate recoil. I have since then turned to Isoceles Stance, as most people did (thank you, Mr. Todd Jarrett, for guiding me in that direction)… (It pains me to admit it, but adopting the Isoceles Stance has strongly improved my shooting…)

Back to G&A magazine, where else could you read from the likes of Mssrs like Dave Arnold, Wiley Clapp, Col. Jeff Cooper, Bob Forker, Jan Libourel, Bob Milek, Ross Seyfried, Phil Spangenberger, Gary Sitton, Kevin E. Steele, Mike Venturino and others in one magazine? To me, that's one of the most pleasant memories I have when I was a very young man. These folks were (and are) my heroes. More than anything, they provided for great inspiration and valuable guidance.

The late Mr. Bob Milek from Wyoming wrote quite a few times in a relatively short time frame about the .30-06 being the best centerfire rifle cartridge. When others are doing that, the topic in question quickly becomes repetitive and boring, but not in Mr. Milek's case! I still wonder how he did that! Each article was writtting in a capturing, fascinating, different and educational style that you just carried on reading and re-reading them! I was so sad, when I read about his death on Nov. 11th, 1993 in G&A issue February 1994. It was almost as if a good personal mentor passed away, which hurt me quite a bit. I am still re-reading his articles from time to time.

I am aware that Mr. Ross Seyfried slightly "adjusted" his opinion on certain topics. You could read that between the lines in his many articles over the years. However, unlike others in the gun writing community, he managed to do rather silently and elegant that without stirring up the pot and without damaging his reputation as an outstanding gun writers in the eyes of his readers.

As most who have followed is writings know, he started as a proponent of bigger bore calibers and very powerful cartridges, but as rifle bullet technology improved and progressed it was evident that he found standard cartridges quite acceptable. In fact, he was one of the gun authors who continuously wrote about the then-status of available bullet technology. I remember an article by him titled ""Bone Bashing Big-Game Bullets" as early as 1990 (see G&A, issue January 1990), where he wrote about bringing a .30-06 Springfield rifle and 165-grain Barnes "X" loads to Australia to hunt wild donkeys and other feral animals with. His then-guiding professional hunter Mr. Bod Penfold, who is one of the greatest fans of the .340 Weatherby Magnum cartridge in his own right, was sceptical and told him before the hunt that it takes a .338 250-grain minimum bullet weight to take these tough animals down with body shots. Mr. Penfold also was convinced that the needle-nosed "X" bullets won't work. After Mr. Seyfried put down three of those critters down in a row with his gun and ammo combination Mr. Penfold couldn't believe it and said: "This .30-06 thinks it's a .340 Weatherby!".

What I've also liked was that Mr. Seyfried was one of the few American gun writers who really considered "our" metric catridges as being worth testing and reporting about them. That was very couragous. Furthermore, he wrote fascinating articles on handgun hunting (which is forbidden in my country) and hunting handguns. I particularly liked his approach that a hunting handgun should be a sidearm, not unwieldy, long-barreled contraptions. Even his most powerful handgun developments like the .475 and .500 Maximum still could be carried as easily as an average S&W model 29. Mr. Seyfried even wrote about things few of us having heard of before. Anyone remember the article "Giant Stoppers!" in G&A, issue June 1993, where he wrote about the huge.577 Thomas Bland revolver and the 16 gauge J.D. Dougall double-barreled Howdah pistol? Extraordinary!

When Mr. Seyfried left G&A without further notice it was not quite the same for me anymore. Many good gun writers followed him. Nowadays, when a current G&A magazine falls into my lap I am rather unimpressed by it. Fortunately, I still have American Handgunner magazine which I subscribe to, which always makes for a good read.

I felt the same about G&A sister publication (Petersens) "Handguns" magazine under the head of Mr. Jan Libourel, with the late Mr. Dave Arnold as his supporting gunwriter. It used to be an entertaining, educational read at that time, especially since a lot of cool handguns were introduced during that time. I particularly liked the column "Handguns in Combat/Handguns in Service" by well-know shooting instructor Mr. Chuck Taylor, which ran for quite a few years. Mr. Kirby Smith who replaced Mr. Libourel in the late 1990s was not a bad editor either. As more and more of my favourite gun writers "disappeared " I chose not to renew my subscription.

I have a good gun dealer friend living close nearby who can rightfully be categorized as a pioneer in practical pistol shooting in my country. He was active in IPSC shooting in the early days 1970 to early 1980 and he is still heading a Bavarian State practical shooting association. Once, he said to me that he trained in Oberdachstetten near Ansbach under the wathful eye of the late Col. Jeff Cooper . Of course, I didn't believe that and made fun out of him. He (rightfully) felt affronted by me and immediately digged for an old, stusty photographic album. I couldn't believe me eyes when I say a still very young and lean Col. Cooper standing by the side of the trainees using a stop watch (timers have not yet been invended)! Lesson learned: Never underestimate and ridicule an guy who has seen much, much more than myself.

He participated at IPSC World Shoot V at Johannesburg, South Africa, in year 1981. There, he competed more or less successful against shooting legends like Jimmy von Sorgenfrei and Ross Seyfried who captured the world title back in that year - the last man do to so with a truly practical 1911 pistol in cal. .45 Auto without compensator and many gimmicks (electronic red dot sights came later). My buddy told me that Mr. Jimmy Von Sorgenfrei a.k.a. "Warthog", whom he knows particularly well, was an outstanding shot, and that Mr. Seyfried was an very affluent Colorado ranger who could affort to shoot tons of ammunition. What a fascinating time it must have been to shoot and compete in practical pistol circuit.

If somebody still has the .340 Weatherby Magnum article from Mr. Ross Seyfried quickly on hand, please PM me.

Thanks a lot.
 
I have had two different 340 wby. rifles. don't buy one if you are recoil sensitive because they have some. it is about like a 375 h&h but with sharper recoil.


I am convinced that the old .375 Holland & Holland Magnum is still one of the best medium bore cartridges - despite it's retro cartridge case design and its age.

Mr. Ross Seyfried gave this round high marks when he responded to a Norwegian reader's question about the viability of the .375 H&H for big game hunting in his long-time "Shooter's In-Sight" column in G&A, issue November 1996, the following:

Ouote: "(…) I always find myself questioning my own lack of use of the .375. Note I said lack of use, not lack of regard. When I see a new safari client packing a .375 H&H I more or less know that it is going to be a good safari for two reasons. One, the hunter is probably very knowledgeable, or has been willing to listen to good advice. They have not been caught up in the iron-sighted-458 syndrome. Second, if he or she does anything resembling good shooting with the .375, the critters are going to go down wihtout much fuss. If we add the new bullets into the equation, the .375 is more gun than ever. Just as you suggest, the .375 H&H is probably the best big-game round in existence, for most people and certainly in Africa."

Almost three years before, he has stated in his outstanding article "Overgunned" in Shooter's In-Sight column, G&A issue Nov. 1993, that it is equally as easy to carry too much gun than too little. He made a strong case for choosing the catridge and load wisely for the game to be hunted. In the final paragraph of the article he also made a few interesting comments on the .375 H&H:

Quote: "(…) While a few moments ago I drew down on the .375 as being totally incorrect, it probably is the very best general African caliber available. Most hunters are so much better off with a scope-sighted .375 than any other caliber as a buffalo gun that there isn't a contest. If you want to make taking your buffalo difficult, stroll out there with the archetypical hairy-chested bwana gun, an iron-sighted .45 caliber or larger. You will fight to see the sights, probably flinch because the recoil level intimidates you and terrify your guide because the dust he sees will fly off of the bull's paunch, instead of his shoulder. Where, if you had used your pet .375, you clearly see the fold behind the shoulder, settle the bright cross hairs there and gently squeeze the trigger. At the shot, your P.H. slaps your shoulder (instead of kicking your backside) because he knows that even though the bull roared off, that tiny spurt of dust on his heart means that he will be stone-dead within 75 yards. I have guided enough African safaris to have a valid opinion and have never seen it done better than with .270 and .375 calibers.
Nothing I have said here is meant to advocate using too little gun, nor to discourage the fun, challenge or results that can be had from real horsepower. This is a solid grasp at preventing you from being bullied into using the wrong gun, trying to use power beyond your means… at the price of precision. Use great bullets in a caliber and rifle that you trust, enjoy holding and shooting and, most of all, in which you have supreme confidence. Always remember that horsepower can't help you unless you can hit with it."


He wrote more than once that his favored .340 Wby. has some kind of a sharp, nasty recoil and shooting it requires some expertise and recoil insensitivity - the same as with most other Weatherby rounds starting with the .300.

To avoid misunderstandings, I do not take every word he ever wrote as gospel. However, Mr. Seyfried always came over as a persuasive, knowledgeable gentleman who just made a lot of sense through his writings. :)
 
When one advocates a particular tool, yet notes that it has drawbacks for some uses and some people, it probably means that they have thought about the issue and are objective about it. It contrasts nicely with those who quit drinking the Kool-Aid about whatever and are now taking it by IV.
 
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