My Dilemma Has Been Answered

I’m a Browning A Bolt II guy. I have several. All synthetic stocked and matte blue or stainless. I use them for deer hunting. I’ve never been more confident in a rifle out to 300 yds than I am in my 270. But there is just something about that “little” 308 with short action and 2” less barrel. It just feels quick, compact and right. To me recoil is the same. As in barely noticeable. And the best part is they both shoot better than MOA with Remington Core Lokts. Which is readily available at any Walmart. 270-130gr. 308 150gr.
 
Handloader magazine 4-2018 #313 400 loads for the .308 by Brian Pearce. He is a great fan of the .308 and has written about it often. Amazing power from the compact .308 round from a Ruger 77MKII short action with a 22" barrel. 150 gr bullets at a bit over 3,000 fps and 165 gr bullets at just under 2,900 fps without exceeding industry standard pressure. Who needs a 30-06 anyway?
 
Handloader magazine 4-2018 #313 400 loads for the .308 by Brian Pearce. He is a great fan of the .308 and has written about it often. Amazing power from the compact .308 round from a Ruger 77MKII short action with a 22" barrel. 150 gr bullets at a bit over 3,000 fps and 165 gr bullets at just under 2,900 fps without exceeding industry standard pressure. Who needs a 30-06 anyway?

I started out with the 30-06 when you could order a 1917 Enfield special selection shipped to your front door for 8 dollars. Ammo was cheap. Tons of surplus around. You could walk into a store, stick your hand in a barrel and as many as you could grab was 1 dollar.

I have 4 30-06 rifles. Ammo is not as cheap as 308 now
 
What type of range shooting ya prefer was next question. While a strong proponent of the 223, am preferring 308 at 300-500 yds. Certainly it is done with the 223, but the 308 carries much better without the added specialization (expense). Am preferring heavy barrel, bipod and muzzle brake so hits on steel (preferred target) can be seen. But there are lots of options.

On a side note you do owe it to yourself to find a friend that will let you try an Ar-15.

I tried one that my son has. Some super duper one of a kind HK that was special ordered and not picked up. Really nice, but I do not want to spend that kind of money on one, and as I stated before, I know nothing about them. Uppers, Lowers ( sounds like pills ). Everybody makes countless models, and I do not know a thing about them, and I do not think Colt is the best way to go, but again, I do not know
 
.308 is jack of all trades. Have an AR & heavy bbl FP 110, both sub moa.

Also like the .243, but seems not to get much love these days, and 400yds is pushing it to me.
 
With a .30-06 on hand I don't see any advantage to getting a .308. I have rifles in 7.62 NATO but they are not hunting rifles. Three Model 70 Winchesters: a Featherweight in .257 Roberts, a standard in .30-06 and an African in .375 H&H handled anything I ever wanted to shoot.

I am unlikely to go after anything bigger than a whitetail any more so the .257 will do all I need.
 
Last rifle I bought, I was thinking a Ruger 22,but the 17hmr had just come out and I couldn’t resist.No recoil at all ;-). (I don’t think I’ve shot it in a dozen years)
 
I have thought about a new rifle for near 40 years. The question has always been, 270 or 308. I have 4 30-06 rifles, and would buy nothing larger, I can't take the pounding.

Last night, I had a restless night's sleep. I have had plenty of those in the last few months, but I woke up in the middle of the night, and looked at the clock.

It said on the digital 3:08. It took a while, but I now have clear direction. :D

Bad choice. You do realize your clock can't show 2:70 right?
 
I tried one that my son has. Some super duper one of a kind HK that was special ordered and not picked up. Really nice, but I do not want to spend that kind of money on one, and as I stated before, I know nothing about them. Uppers, Lowers ( sounds like pills ). Everybody makes countless models, and I do not know a thing about them, and I do not think Colt is the best way to go, but again, I do not know

The cost of an AR always steered me away. Then, I was in TN visiting my son and he took me to a gun shop. They had ARs in 6 different flavors in boxes on the floor stacked 6 high. Prices ranged from about $400 to $1000. When I got home I did some R&D at local shops and found it was possible here too with an order. (they only carry the expensive ones in the shop)

Some of the differences amount to having small parts mounted with roll pins instead of tiny screws. In essence, they are ALL made to milspecs, so the true difference is more aesthetics. (Boy I'll get flamed for that.....LOL)

Anywhoot, I got away for about $495. A month later an $80 receiver was the basis for a kit, and the other parts bought as a "kit" probably saved me 50 bucks over store-bought.

So far I've only been out to 100 yards at my camp range, but the groups would indicate that 300 and beyond would be fun to try.

(parts is parts)
 

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With a .30-06 on hand I don't see any advantage to getting a .308. I have rifles in 7.62 NATO but they are not hunting rifles. Three Model 70 Winchesters: a Featherweight in .257 Roberts, a standard in .30-06 and an African in .375 H&H handled anything I ever wanted to shoot.

I am unlikely to go after anything bigger than a whitetail any more so the .257 will do all I need.

I am looking to the 308, for distance shooting, although I am sure a 30-06 will do that, but 308 is more economical I do believe. I do not handload anymore. I did for over 45 years but the last 25 were 25K rounds of 12ga/year for trapshooting
 
I have thought about a new rifle for near 40 years. The question has always been, 270 or 308. I have 4 30-06 rifles, and would buy nothing larger, I can't take the pounding.
Jack O'Connor and I would say go 270 Winchester.

I found the 6.5x55mm Swedish Mauser a very fine caliber and you will not believe the accuracy especially if you are a handloader.
 
Funny story! I like it.

For many years my only hunting rifle was a Remington Model 788 in .308 and it's still my primary rifle choice if I ever go hunting again.

Remington 788 is a good rifle. My (late) Brother had one in .44 Magnum but my Dad sold it before I could get ahold of it (& I would have been happy to buy it).
 
Target shooting at 500 yards max . If you can't be talked into a AR15 bought complete or assemble at home using select
parts can be a joy at the range and be a very sub moa shooter in ether 223 wylde or 6.5 grendell .

Both can work very well out to 500 yards but the 6.5grendel can exceed that several hundred yards . I've assembled several at home , more of a precision build for 2 and one a 9mm fun version .

If nooo AR15 is wanted I for target shooting I pick the savage arm model 12 BVSS in 223 and it does come in 308 and 22.250 but contact savage arms and be sure the current 223 verion come with a 1-7 twist barrel so the heavist bullets can be used . The accutriggers in this model are not the best but purdy darn good and they are rated to 1.5lbs from the factory but its not hard to tune lighter , say 12 to 13 ounce .

I have a stevens 200 in 223 with a slender 21" barrel with a 1-9 barrel . I added a Rifle Basic 1lb trigger to it . That basic low cost model will shoot .500 moa with several factory loads and federal 69gr match kings will shoot clover left groups .
 
Remington 788 is a good rifle. My (late) Brother had one in .44 Magnum but my Dad sold it before I could get ahold of it (& I would have been happy to buy it).

I bought a rem 788 back in '73 in 308 and yes they are good shooter and typically better than there model 700 . After all the years hunting with it in mainly SW FL it still looks good today .
 

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