Call me a curmudgeon but my cell phone hangs on the kitchen wall and has a long curly cord!!! I have neither need nor desire to have a cell phone.
My education rant
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Call me a curmudgeon but my cell phone hangs on the kitchen wall and has a long curly cord!!! I have neither need nor desire to have a cell phone.
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zzzippper
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It's not ridiculous. Why should I want 98 cents change when I can include the 2 cents in my payment and get a full paper dollar back? I hate carrying coins and get rid of them every chance I get.
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zzzippper
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I went to those same schools 50 years ago but I came away with certain life skills like how to write a check, balance a checkbook, and yes, counting change. When is the last time someone actually counted your change back to you instead of just dumping a wad of bills and coins in your hand?
Typo correction courtesy of Old Bear. Apparently typing isn't one of the life skills I learned!
Typo correction courtesy of Old Bear. Apparently typing isn't one of the life skills I learned!
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zzzippper
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Exactly! And this is why I wanted the nickel and every other nickel I can get:
Mass Inflation Ahead — Save Your Nickels! – SurvivalBlog.com
DavidWJ
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Some cash registers provide the change in a little slide goody...
I entered the public school system in 1951, graduated in 1964 and received a far better education than most kids do today. Your statement doesn't hold water in any kind of a bucket.
I'm itching to make other comments but will restrain myself.
I'm itching to make other comments but will restrain myself.
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ChattanoogaPhil
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If you don't like carrying coins (neither do I), and making change with folks who suffer difficulty with simple math irritates ya, why antagonize yourself with paying cash?
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I'm not going to enter a school debate, but I will say that any parent in America who allows their child to grow up without being proficient with simple math (absent some type of learning disability) no matter how poor the school is, has failed their child and should hang their head in shame.
Really, there is zero excuse for that kind of neglect.
Really, there is zero excuse for that kind of neglect.
i resemble that remark..................NO cellphone. ipod. tablet, bluetooth, atm card, facebook, twitter, etc.....
how do i get along.....JUST FINE.....
RIGHT ON !!!
there was then and now............i'll take then and when i'm 104 i'll still be 2 steps ahead of now.....
Cardboard_killer
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Since the day people learned to write their thoughts down on stone tablets, the old have complained about the young, and pinned for the "good old days". Let's face it, that's just what the even the book of Genesis is (in my day, we lived in paradise. . .).
And yet, despite knowing this with our "better" education, we are repeating the same behavior, and believe it to be true. If it were really true, the Romans would have been living in high-rises, and we would be living in caves. And yet, here we are living in conditions that the most pampered emperor would envy. And all this despite every generation's belief that the young are not up to snuff. Well, every generation is the equal to every other generation. No better, no worse. They come into the world they didn't create, are shaped by it, then try to reshape it, then get old, then complain about how much better it was in their day. Then they die, and in two generations are forgotten. That's life.
And yet, despite knowing this with our "better" education, we are repeating the same behavior, and believe it to be true. If it were really true, the Romans would have been living in high-rises, and we would be living in caves. And yet, here we are living in conditions that the most pampered emperor would envy. And all this despite every generation's belief that the young are not up to snuff. Well, every generation is the equal to every other generation. No better, no worse. They come into the world they didn't create, are shaped by it, then try to reshape it, then get old, then complain about how much better it was in their day. Then they die, and in two generations are forgotten. That's life.
G.T. Smith
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Not much sense in having a cell phone out here in the boonies. I had one once but it never would get any signal so when it finally became outdated, I never bothered to replace it. I'm far to dumb for a smart phone.
Peace,
gordon
Peace,
gordon
CBus660R
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I disagree with your assessment kpap. I do what the OP did all the time. I'd much rather have a nickle in my pocket than 5 pennies. And if I have the singles in the wallet to get a larger denomination bill instead of a couple singles back, I'll do that too. Just yesterday when getting groceries, my bill was $51 and change. I didn't have any coins to clean up the metal side of the exchange, but I did have a few singles, so I handed the clerk a $100 bill and 2 singles so I could get 2 twenties, a ten, and the coins instead of 2 twenties, a five, and three singles plus the coins.
That's it in a nutshell. I love how everyone wants to 'blame' an entity, when it's the parent/s that are ultimately responsible.
I had one guy recently telling me how bad this future generation is. I told him to lay the blame on the previous generation for raising idiots.
Unfortunately, for many, school is for daycare, feeding their kids and every dang thing else. Many 'parents' feel as if it's not their responsibility to raise, teach and feed their children. Apparently it's the taxpayer and system's responsibility to raise your children.
The problem lies with parenting, or lack thereof.
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chaparrito
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I wish I had time to go around giving minimum wage clerks goofy change combinations to see how smart they are.
dougb1946
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The old line about leading a horse to water but you can't make him drink applies to education. Schools have the kids for 5 or 6 hours per day (instruction time) 180 days per year. Teacher tries to use any kind of discipline , the teacher is fired. Kids and parents have to be involved in some fashion.
Why bother using actual money?
Just shop at places that you can pay with your smart phone. Then no one needs to use all that "higher Math"
Just shop at places that you can pay with your smart phone. Then no one needs to use all that "higher Math"
One of my favorite games at a register is when the bill comes to something like 5.02 and I give the clerk 5.05 saying that I don't have any pennies. The clerk gives me .03 back. I then exclaim, oh wait now I have the 2 pennies and hand them back asking for my nickle back. Its amazing how many clerks will comply. 
It is easy to blame the schools for lack of math skills in their students.
Next we should talk about those who employ these math challenged clerks.
It would seem simple enough to have a "per-employement" math test during the interview. NO CALCULATOR ALLOWED!
I have seen university students get totally ABSURD answers because of improper use of their calculator.
A calculator (and also a computer) does exactly what you TOLD it to do - NOT what you WANTED it to do.
Bekeart
Next we should talk about those who employ these math challenged clerks.
It would seem simple enough to have a "per-employement" math test during the interview. NO CALCULATOR ALLOWED!
I have seen university students get totally ABSURD answers because of improper use of their calculator.
A calculator (and also a computer) does exactly what you TOLD it to do - NOT what you WANTED it to do.
Bekeart
captorquewrench
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Ya know...
I wanted to come in with something relevant, intelligent, and wise.
But I'm a teacher and the end of the first 2 weeks of the year, after two weeks of inservice, after summer band. I'm just too dang diddly tired.
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I wanted to come in with something relevant, intelligent, and wise.
But I'm a teacher and the end of the first 2 weeks of the year, after two weeks of inservice, after summer band. I'm just too dang diddly tired.
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DeathGrip
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as I post this on my computer?
DeathGrip
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I remember my Dad working to keep three kids and mom happy and healthy in the 60s.
The 70s were pretty cool too. Dad's job was pretty secure.
By the 80s It seemed like it took two incomes to see the future.
Contracts and unions became different. no more security for the worker.
Political parties changed polarity.
Education is the clue. It's been hi jacked.
Targets Guy
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Mobile phones were invented in the 1940's. Investers didn't believe they were for real.
I use a credit card; saves getting the wrong change back.
I use a credit card; saves getting the wrong change back.
LouisianaJoe
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My nephew(Charlie Sherrill's Son), likes to get a bunch of $2 bills at the bank. He then uses them in fast food places for entertainment. Sometimes the cashier will call a manager to verify that a $2 bill is legal currency. Then comes the math part.
Absolutes are, well, subject to a reality check. Today was a "day of no significant activity" (i.e., permissive day off to give the staff a long weekend) at the installation at which I work. Aside from the two staff working the Joint Ops Center (no day off there) there were three people in the office this am: myself, two co-workers and our O-6 deputy. Contractors 3, Military 1, GS 0. It's easy to diss contractors...but the vast majority of us provide specific skills and expertise that DoD can't keep in uniform or won't hire in the GS system. Oh, those two in the JOC? Contractors.
I won't bash McDonalds. Some good entry-level jobs there, and wait until they automate those jobs; lots of hard-working folks there who are trying to make ends meet.
YMMV.
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