MY GARDEN IS PROTECTED !

susieqz said:
it turns out, 2 cats fit into my home fine.
that much work i can handle, but i wouldn't enjoy 3, like so many here do.
drifter's pet, cuddles is more work than drifter,
he only goes out for a couple hours at a time, then, uses the sand box as soon as he gets in.
so, more cleaning for him, but i notice the carpets don' get as dirty with just these 2.

cud doesn't fit my definition of cat.
he stays in the garden as long as drifter is there, but when she wants a snack she leaves him behind, probably because he's clumsy n noisy.
when she leaves, he howls to get in.
he is no solitary animal. he needs to either be with drifter or me at all times.
this is ok, because he only has to be on top of me sometimes. as long as i'm in the house, he can nap in other rooms.
drifter didn't like the entire clowder around, but enjoys one playmate.
she's happy, so things are fine.
cud is just a pet. drifter is something i don't have a word for.
drifter makes me proud.
when she brings a huge rat when i call, i'm happy.
when she leaps upon a bunny n wrestles it, i'm so proud of her i could burst.
she knows how to get her teeth on a bunny neck n kill it fast.
her feral actions make me love her.
until cud can do those things he will never get treated like drifter, tho he's very nice for cuddling.
on the plus side, cud has learned how to catch n eat locusts.
it's important that he know stuff he catches is yummy.
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It's very possible that cud will learn drifter's skills as he matures.. If not, in a cat household it is very common that different members have a variety of talents and personality types. That makes it interesting for the human family (even if you're a family of one) I'm glad you have the perfect number of cats for you [emoji4]

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well, the cats are home, but unconscious.
drifter looks good. breathing fine.
i don't now if cud will make it. very shallow breathing.
the vet was worried, but no help for it.
the stupid bit probably OD ed cud. he was fighting harder than drifter, so she probably over reacted.
the smart thing would have been to leave him there,
i'm paying for the extra driving. right now.
 
i was gona give cud artificial resusitation.
but, when i blew on his face, he blinked.

i laid him down n he seems to be breathing better now that i woke hi up.

drifter is mostly out of her carrier. she can only crawl a little at a time.
my heart is breaking.
 
drifter seemed to be crawling to me, so i got down on the floor with her. she moved off tho. she is crawling aimlessly around the room.
i hate this because she's dragging her incision on the carpet.
i guess a tougher person could lock her in the carrier, but i just can't do that.
i was right. that bit gave cud too much trank. he's breathing fine but still unconscious.
since he weighs 2 oz more than drifter he should have woke first.

by the way, drifter only weighs 6 1/2 lbs. that proves how tough she is. i think the bunnies she kills weigh 3 or 4lbs.
but she takes them anyway.
 
I will pray for both of your kitties. They all act dopey for the first day after the surgery. It takes quite awhile for them to be acting normally. Please do not let either one out until the vet says so... How did your MD visit go today? Keep me posted about the kitties. Drifter just feels sore. She'll be ok. Shallow breathing for cud could be because he has some discomfort from the procedure. They need to keep reasonable warm the first day or two. Any questions, call the vet.

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i picked the guys up 9 1/2 hours ago. they can both walk, but are wobbly.
hey would have been better staying longer at the vet, but not now.
they are stoned, but they are in their own home.
i think being home is helpful.
neither is eating or drinking.
i expected at least thirst.
they both hate me.
no more loving cats.
i don't wanna push myself.
strike that. cuddles just came u to me.
no purring but no real hate.
drifter cringes if i get near.
they both have the run of the house.
i figre normal is best, but the vet said no outside for a week.
i'll keep them in for a few days. when drifter gets out she'll roll in the dirt so i want the wounds closed.
i still feel guilty.
this feels like an evil thing to do.
 
Susie, I was waiting to hear how they were doing. They will not hate you. They will both be healthier and live longer!! My kitties are just fine, and are very affectionate. I think that in the long run, you will be pleased.

So glad that they are wearing off the after effects of the anesthesia. But I would follow the instructions about keeping them in for a week.

It is not "evil". I do remember having second thoughts about Lucky when I took him in for his operation. I think that I shared those feelings with you guys in the thread I wrote about him at the time. He is going to be 10 months old on the 1st of July, and he is healthy and happy!! (Or so he told me.)

Drifter and cud are going to be much healthier and happier over the long run.

Thanks for letting us know how things are going,

Best Regards, Les
 
this is running into money. $300 for the vet, not including carriers.
but now, the fair thing would be to give them a cat door.
when drifter comes in during the day, she wants out in a half hour.
she doesn't hate me because she got cut.
she is upset because i put her in the carrier.
one thing she can't stand is having her freedom of movement
interfered with.
i got her in the house by convincing her that i'd let her do what she wants.
now, i've abused that trust.
seems like i owe them a cat door.
oh, they both got rabies n distemper.
no sign of paracites either,
 
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Great...so glad that you got them their shots as well!! I know that this all ran into money, but the big expense is pretty much behind you now. If you get a kitty door, be sure and get one that you can lock...there may be times that you won't want to let them out for one reason or another.

Best Regards, Les
 
14 hours after i picked the cats up, everything was switched around.
the effects of the anesthetic were gone.
cud was odd but more or less normal, able to leap onto n off high furniture.
drifter as feeling the effects of surgery n not doing gret, tho she could walk fine.
i have no idea if drifter is alive.
she has disappeared.
she didn't come to this morn's supper call.
i can't find her.
i guess moving furniture will find her, but i'm crippled up from yesterday.
before yesterday's trauma, she would have come for sure, but i can't predict what she'll do, if alive.
 
susieqz said:
i picked the guys up 9 1/2 hours ago. they can both walk, but are wobbly.
hey would have been better staying longer at the vet, but not now.
they are stoned, but they are in their own home.
i think being home is helpful.
neither is eating or drinking.
i expected at least thirst.
they both hate me.
no more loving cats.
i don't wanna push myself.
strike that. cuddles just came u to me.
no purring but no real hate.
drifter cringes if i get near.
they both have the run of the house.
i figre normal is best, but the vet said no outside for a week.
i'll keep them in for a few days. when drifter gets out she'll roll in the dirt so i want the wounds closed.
i still feel guilty.
this feels like an evil thing to do.
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They don't hate you because they don't connect their discomfort to you. They shouldn't be out for at least a week in a safe fenced suburban backyard. You have predators in your area. To preserve their lives, I'd wait 2 weeks because their immune systems are low for at least 2-3 weeks and their responses will be slowed for at least 4 weeks while their hormones are rebalancing and getting used to the chemical effects of not having their sex organs. Normally a vet won't allow surgical patients to leave before they drink water. Dehydration is very debilitating after surgery. It slows down the excretion of the anesthesia and makes them dopey longer than usual. If you have an oral syringe or a clean dropper from a bottle, place cool water between their cheek and gum to give them (about a teaspoon) of water several times a day till they're drinking on their own. Water is even more important than food if they're dehydrated. See how they do and don't think you did the wrong thing because you didn't. They'll come along in time and get back to their happy selves. They probably miss the other kits too.

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I didn't see your most recent post before I posted mine so I didn't know about drifter missing. I hope she's turned up by now ... Maybe she can be tempted with tuna. The surgery is more complex with a female than a male which is external, so she'll be sore for longer than cud. Let us know when you find her. They often hide in closets, or basements. Are you sure she didn't get outside? She could be looking for her kits even though she saw you hand them off.

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well. drifter is alive . she is barricaded inside the bathroom cabinets .
she won't come out.
i could get her out, but only with a big fight.
i put some food n water in there.
don't be sure i have a kitty anymore.
i must keep her in, because if she gets out i'll never see her again.
she hates me. when my hand was in the cabinet, she prepared to fight.
no way will she let me touch her.
this has nothing to do with her pain.
she has not forgotten the treachery.
 
susieqz said:
well. drifter is alive . she is barricaded inside the bathroom cabinets .
she won't come out.
i could get her out, but only with a big fight.
i put some food n water in there.
don't be sure i have a kitty anymore.
i must keep her in, because if she gets out i'll never see her again.
she hates me. when my hand was in the cabinet, she prepared to fight.
no way will she let me touch her.
this has nothing to do with her pain.
she has not forgotten the treachery.
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Give her food and water and she will come around in time. I don't have specific experience with ferals. Maybe Jen can give you further advice. I wouldn't let her outside until she has fully healed (2 weeks) and has gone back to her normal personality. If you let her outside before that, you n may be right about her not coming back. Or it may all be hormonal. Hormones control certain responses and she doesn't feel normal right now, and may not, for 4 weeks after her surgery because her hormones are changing and her brain is ruled by Hormones right now. Give her time. I don't think she mistrusts you...I think it's biochemical... Put a litter box where she is if needs be and let her have her space..

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drifter has food, water n litter cose by.
but she is acting just like i feared she would.
she lost all trust in me.
she wants me nowhere near, as i broke our contract n she knows it.
she has ventured out of the cabinet but will not tolerate my presence.
she is at the far end of the house.
as far as she can get from me without being outdoors.
drifter is not like other cats. she is not a pet.
she is a separate person, very smart n willful.
she may never forget me forcing her into the carrier.
 
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