My M&P 9mm Pro Sucks

Be careful what u say about the m&p, I made a comment about the new h&k vp9.awesome pistol.. Guess I struck a nerve, they deleted my post lol.
 
My m & p 9 has worked great but had real accuracy issues. So it's back at the factory. I'm sure your concerns can be addressed as well.
 
No I'm not! I like the forum and I own 3 m&p's. I just stated what I had encountered with the h&K vp9. I own more guns than I even can keep count of, mostly high end and enjoy all. I also think you rushed to judgement to quickly about me or my intentions.
 
No I'm not! I like the forum and I own 3 m&p's. I just stated what I had encountered with the h&K vp9. I own more guns than I even can keep count of, mostly high end and enjoy all. I also think you rushed to judgement to quickly about me or my intentions.

Maybe you will understand it's not what you say it's they way you say it. Again you say "I own more guns than I even can keep count of". To me that's a dangerous statement because it implies irresponsibility. What happens if one of your guns goes missing? When will you find out? When the Cops come a knockin'? You will find that this is one of if not the best forums for all brands of guns not just S&W and everyone is here to help you get the most out of gun ownership so please be cool and enjoy :)
 
You learn something every day and it surprised me a little.
I've never pulled any new guns down to clean straight out of the box.
My pro 9 CORE landed on my door step and was at the range an hour later with 300 rounds through it and similar with my .22. Not one issue.
 
Sothern Kiwi, I would recommend cleaning a new gun before shooting it. I think it depends on what the manufacturer puts on the weapon to keep it from rusting that makes the difference on whether it performs or not. When I originally called S&W they did indicate that they had used something similiar to Cosmoline on some of their guns. This is not a lubricant but more like a Vasoline type substance to prevent rusting. In my case it took a couple of cleaning and shooting sessions before it was gone. Since then I've not had a problem. BTW, it is recommended in the owner's manual to clean a new gun before shooting. Obviously you've been lucky so far but that may not always be the case. Regards, Jim
 
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Took my new 5" Pro to the range today and it ran flawless for 217 rounds with 5 different loads. Gave it a light cleaning, a few drops of oil and it was ready to roll.
 
Elliot45 Starting to sound like even with all your past experience !! you have learned that your m&p does not really suck and clean is not always really clean . I do use a grease on rails and rifles bolt lugs but only after all of the factory gunk has been removed and not the average gun grease . Thank gosh for cheap jewelry sonic cleaners for small parts , "don't tell the wife " and non-chlorinated brake cleaner along with old tooth brush's .


Pro-gold grease from Pro-Shot products - A tiny amount goes a long way , use an old messed up eye glass screw driver to apply . There Zero Friction pretty darn good stuff to for normal lube needs .
 
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I'm guessing this M&P needed a break in period huh? ;)

Anyway, when I have a piece that has issues I shove the hottest thing I can find in it like NATO ball and run it like I stole it!
Even ol Mas Ayoob recommends you run at least 250 of your carry load thru your piece to ensure reliability, so a few 100 rounds of ball to break it in wont hurt.
And Speer Lawman 124gr. Ball is loaded yo almost 124+P Gold Dot velocity.
Dale
 
I am glad it's "loosening up" for you, I believe it will be a reliable shooter from now on. Since your experience is the same as mine (post #8 here), it looks like S&W is not the only manufacturer that puts sticky stuff into new guns. My Sig M-11 did the same.
 
runnerhiker, you're right in that everything loosened up. Since my update post on March 13, I've not had a problem with it feeding anything. Customer Service was correct in that they had indicated that some of the guns had been packed with something like Cosmoline which had caused problems for others too. It took me several cleanings and hundreds of rounds to get it out. Anyway, I've also replaced the trigger with an Apex FSS kit and I'm really happy with the gun now. The original trigger had almost a 7 lb. pull and I could have sent it back to the factory but I also wanted less travel in it before the trigger break so I decided that I would spend the bucks to get it to the way I wanted. But thanks for everyone's replies, appreciate them. Regards, Jim
 
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My M&P 9mmL Pro Series CORE

Just took my new M&P 9mmL 5in Pro Series CORE pistol out this past weekend. No FTE's, no FTF's issues at all shooting 250 rounds. One thing I did notice was twice it failed to lock back. I have to say this was the shooter. I was holding the pistol with right thumb over right hand and close to the slide lock. Low and behold, my right thumb was resting on the slide lock keeping it from engaging on the last round. I moved the thumb over about 1/4in or more and no more failures. I was also able to reproduce this on a 92FS as well. Just my observation and maybe it will help someone else.
I installed the Trijicon RM07 6.5moa, love this pistol, very accurate. Next purchase is an APEX trigger and a couple of Taran extended base pads. ;)
 
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Just took my new M&P 9mmL 5in Pro Series CORE pistol out this past weekend. No FTE's, no FTF's issues at all shooting 250 rounds. One thing I did notice was twice it failed to lock back. I have to say this was the shooter. I was holding the pistol with right thumb over right hand and close to the slide lock. Low and behold, my right thumb was resting on the slide lock keeping it from engaging on the last round. I moved the thumb over about 1/4in or more and no more failures. I was also able to reproduce this on a 92FS as well. Just my observation and maybe it will help someone else.
I installed the Trijicon RM07 6.5moa, love this pistol, very accurate. Next purchase is an APEX trigger and a couple of Taran extended base pads. ;)

Sounds like you enjoyed it. A couple of suggestions, if you're going to put an Apex trigger in, go ahead and get the Flat Faced Forward Set Sear kit. The first time you try it you'll know why. Otherwise you'll do like most of us did and buy progressively more expensive Apex kits until we end up at the Flat trigger anyway:eek:. TTI extensions are great, what are you going to do for a magwell? I use Speed Shooters, they have a couple of different ones. An ESP version that will fit into the IDPA Box or the Limited one which is basically a big funnel. I like the big funnel since I stopped shooting IDPA. One thing to remember, if you get a magwell, your stock mags won't fit anymore without replacing the base pads (or trimming the stock ones severely.)

Welcome to the forum
First picture is my Core with the ESP magwell, I've retired it at 90K rounds and my wife shoots it occasionally. Second picture is my current comp gun.
 

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strange to have so much problems with 115Gr ammo. Mine M&P9L PC never jammed from the first day.
Did you clean it good? Clean gun & magazine with ZEP45, works nice with all guns & rifles I've.
The ammo I use for mine M&P 9L PC - Sig X-five SAO is Sellier & Bellot 115Gr... no problems with accuracy also!
Hopes it helps you ;)
 
Your recoil spring could be too stiff. Maybe see if Smith would send you a new one.
 
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