My new carry round is the Blazer, 200gr, Speer Gold Dot. I've heard great things about this round, and I like the non-corrosive aluminum casings. This will be replacing my 180 gr Hornady XTP rounds. It comes in a box of 50, at a great price as well, so I'll see how they print on paper and I just might put one in a row of water jugs. I'll stick with Hornady critical defense for my .38, but if I like this ammo, it just might give e that nudge to buy a Charter Arms Bulldog.
My new .44-spcl carry round
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DWalt
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If you get a .44 Bulldog, you'll need a pair of these. I'm not kidding:
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"Non-corrosive aluminum casings" ??
Since when are Hornady brass cases corrosive?
And what about steel cases - not many of those are corrosive.
By the way - casings are what sausage is made with.
If you get a .44 Bulldog, you'll need a pair of these. I'm not kidding:
Or a set of these. They work well, and conceal much better than the Presentation grips.
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S&W Pachmayr
I have S&W Pachmayr's on my model 21. I really like the wood but with Buffalo Bore ammo they really soak up the energy.
I have really given a lot of thought to a DOA only Bulldog in 44 special as a back up.
If you get a .44 Bulldog, you'll need a pair of these. I'm not kidding:
I have S&W Pachmayr's on my model 21. I really like the wood but with Buffalo Bore ammo they really soak up the energy.
I have really given a lot of thought to a DOA only Bulldog in 44 special as a back up.
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I really wish S&W would come out with a fixed sight, lightweight, round butt N or L frame revolver, a bobbed hammer and no lock in 44 Special. While they are at it a blued version and one in stainless with QUALITY from the 70's.
They wouldn't be able to keep them in stock and could charge a premium price.
But the I still believe in Santa Claus, Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy.
They wouldn't be able to keep them in stock and could charge a premium price.
But the I still believe in Santa Claus, Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy.
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DWalt
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""Non-corrosive aluminum casings" ??
Since when are Hornady brass cases corrosive?
And what about steel cases - not many of those are corrosive."
There was a posting today in another area of this forum where the poster was talking about getting corrosion in his revolver chambers from using brass-cased ammo. I have not heard of that before. Did I miss something?
Since when are Hornady brass cases corrosive?
And what about steel cases - not many of those are corrosive."
There was a posting today in another area of this forum where the poster was talking about getting corrosion in his revolver chambers from using brass-cased ammo. I have not heard of that before. Did I miss something?
I recently had an email exchange with a person from the "technical department" at Speer relative to the expansion capability of the .44 Special Gold Dot round. Specifically, I had reached out to them to see if they had done any gel testing on the round out of a short barrel. I asked because one of my carry guns is a Model 69 with a 2-3/4 inch barrel.
The reply I received was that they only gel test "law enforcement rounds", so I guess they don't consider that round for LE use. He also said that the bullet should (emphasis mine) expand at and above 750 fps.
I've not chronographed the round from my short barrel nor have I found any examples of it online (Youtube, Lucky Gunner, etc.). So before you decide to carry the round with a short barrel (under 4"), you may want to do some chronographing to see what velocity you get.
The reply I received was that they only gel test "law enforcement rounds", so I guess they don't consider that round for LE use. He also said that the bullet should (emphasis mine) expand at and above 750 fps.
I've not chronographed the round from my short barrel nor have I found any examples of it online (Youtube, Lucky Gunner, etc.). So before you decide to carry the round with a short barrel (under 4"), you may want to do some chronographing to see what velocity you get.
Really? Non-Corrosive is a sales feature advertised in the past by CCI, and yea, it's a thing. I don't shoot steel cased anything. I reload most of my brass, obviously not aluminum. I also buy a lot of spent brass much of it advertised as casings from ebay. I've been reloading .38 & .44 for 30 years, and it as my earlier post with the corrosion on Hornady brass. Brass corroding is, in fact, another sales feature of nickel-plated brass casings. I just prefer a heavier .44 spcl round to the Hornady 165 gr Critical Defense. I don't eat or stuff much sausage.
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Mine is a 4.25" 69, which I have enjoyed greatly. The Charter Arms Bulldog is on my want list. I have a CA 6-shot .38 that goes with me everywhere. I've really enjoyed it as well. It's just a tad smaller than the Smith K frame snubs, which I also love. I sold a M15 a few years back and I am still regretting that.
Nice grips. Looks great.
The Pachmayr Compacs really help on the recoil, they are wider than the stock rubber grips on the Bulldog.
Buffalo Bore makes a nice 200 gr hard cast sharp-shoulder wadcutter round that is safe for use in the Bulldog.
Buffalo Bore makes a nice 200 gr hard cast sharp-shoulder wadcutter round that is safe for use in the Bulldog.
The Pachmayr Compacs really help on the recoil, they are wider than the stock rubber grips on the Bulldog.
Buffalo Bore makes a nice 200 gr hard cast sharp-shoulder wadcutter round that is safe for use in the Bulldog.
Also a nice looking CA Bulldog. I will have to try some of those grips on my CA Undercover Police, (6 shot .38spcl)
I think that I'd be less concerned about it being corroSIVE (to my revolver) and more concerned about it corroDING (the brass tarnishing or steel rusting).
Aluminum is much more corrosion-resistant than brass or steel, and I suspect that is more what was being referred to.
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Ruger SP101 now available in 44 special
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I couldn't find anything on that...did you mean the GP100 in 44spcl?
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I used to be able to find that ammo fairly regularly, but I have not seen any in the past few years -- where are you finding it?
A few years ago I used to have a Taurus 445 about the same size as a Bulldog. My carry ammo was the Blazer, 200gr, Speer Gold Dot. It was accurate and fairly tame in the little gun. It was the only thing I shot in the Taurus.
smoothshooter
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Aluminum will corrode pretty easily, actually, depending on the alloy.
BigMuddy
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I carry that Blazer ammo in my CA Bulldog. It is an easily managed load and seems to shoot well. My SS Bulldog and Blazers have been completely soaked several times.....and no corrosion anywhere. (It is my kayak gun)
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Yeah, nothing like steel or brass though.
That's one of the reasons why so many automotive and machine parts are made from aluminum. Aluminum develops it's own protective oxide layer that, after it is only a couple of molecules thick, will pretty effectively halt further corrosion. With the right exposure to the right environment it will continue to corrode, but exposure to normal elements like air & water, not so much. Look at things like brake levers and rims on a motorcycle or transmission housings. They last for decades when exposed to the weather with no coatings ever having been applied. Try that with unpainted steel or brass.
Oxidized steel doesn't form a protective coating. It's oxide "coating" is rust - which is porous and provides little to no protection from further oxidization. With the right application of heat and chemicals it can be converted to a slightly corrosion resistant finish - i.e. bluing - but even that is VERY susceptible to further oxidation and damage with just a little water exposure.
Pretty much the same is true for brass, copper, and most metals. They all suffer structural and dimensional degradation from exposure to normal environmental elements. Aluminum is kind of unique that way.
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viney266
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The S&W nightguard, one of the few I passed on (and regret). The PERFECT 44 special carry piece. They really need to do it again.
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Maybe so, I wasn't sure of the #, but knew they had one out.
Dunno if worth a thousand words but here's a previously posted pic regarding a CA BD and Blazer 200 gr. GD ammo: Works for me...
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Dunno if this is what poster was referring to but the blueish/green substance (aka; oxidation) that forms on copper/brass and what I know as verdigris, which can be transferred from the case but easily wiped off with a rag.
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Maybe splitting hairs here but IMO,none of the "casings" are corrosive themselves but are subject to corrosion.
To me, acid, etc can be/is corrosive.
That surprises me, it's very hot. The Underwood 200gr Gold Dots chrono'd at over 1000fps from a 2" Taurus 44 SPL snubbie.
I don't think any lightweight 44 SPL pistol will handle many of them.
DWalt
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"Brass corroding is, in fact, another sales feature of nickel-plated brass casings."
In at least one way, that is true. The original purpose of nickel plating revolver cases goes back to the days when many cops (and others) carried cartridges in looped leather belts. If conventional brass-cased rounds were kept in leather loops for extended time periods (which was often the case), a layer of corrosion from the leather would build up and could prevent chambering. That did not happen with nickel plated cases. I remember hearing stories about cops waxing their ammunition to prevent corrosion in belt loops.
In at least one way, that is true. The original purpose of nickel plating revolver cases goes back to the days when many cops (and others) carried cartridges in looped leather belts. If conventional brass-cased rounds were kept in leather loops for extended time periods (which was often the case), a layer of corrosion from the leather would build up and could prevent chambering. That did not happen with nickel plated cases. I remember hearing stories about cops waxing their ammunition to prevent corrosion in belt loops.
