LEO918
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Mainspring housings on new Colts are plastic.
My new Stainless Colt Series 70 1911 - No sights, No roll marks.
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Unfortunately, the my mainspring housing is plastic.
CAJUNLAWYER
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Why in the wide world of sports would COlt put a plastic mainspring housing on their 1911's???Ματθιας;141225461 said:
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I'll give you three guesses.... and the first two don't count.
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They've been doing it for years. My mid 90's Gold Cup had/has a plastic one, too!
I think the trigger is plastic, too!
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Probably because it's cheap and a side benefit is that it reduces weight.
Is the slick Colt a lot cheaper than an engraved Colt? I would think the resale value is drastically reduced.
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Trigger pull on new 1911s is just plain horrible. Changed the trigger to adjustable and a slick disconnector from Brownells, still horrible. Disassembled again and discovered the disconnector hole is almost straight up and down so disconnector has to be forced back by trigger instead of moving at slight angle. Not a happy camper, thinking of just selling it instead of grinding away inside of frame.
AJ
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What's the point in buying a Colt if it doesn't have the rollmarks identifying it as such? Did it cost substantially less since you didn't pay for the brand name?
Just kidding, congratulations! It looks swell.
Have seen "sanitized" guns with no serial numbers going out of a friends gun shop many years ago. An Alphabet Department of the Government had contracted them.
Buick
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Crazy that Colt would put out a 1911 without rollmarks on the slide. A Colt with no pony??
Cost savings. My stainless Delta Elite from the early 1990's came with a plastic main spring housing.
I suppose you have all the room you need to have the warning manual engraved all over the slide.
I actually like that gun and you can put on any sights you want. I don't understand the plastic parts, especially the trigger, but I didn't engineer the gun. I like your new Colt.
I actually like that gun and you can put on any sights you want. I don't understand the plastic parts, especially the trigger, but I didn't engineer the gun. I like your new Colt.
AJ
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Ματθιας;141225566 said:
Like the man wrote.....Cost Savings. Colt like others is/was trying to save money. The uninitiated never knew their new gun had plastic parts. Most never, ever take them apart to clean them. Heck, the local gun store does a landslide business cleaning guns for people who can't be bothered to do so. Just about every used gun the shop buys is filthy as all get out.
I would just replace the plastic junk with good metal parts and move on.
Worth remembering.
Three types of shooting according to Jerry Miculek, a guy that knows a bit about shooting.
1. Aimed fire
2. Point shooting
3. Instinctive shooting
Sights are needed for aimed fire.
Point shooting can be done with a gutter type sight or with just a front sight. Point shooting is used for games like trap and sheet.
No sights are needed for instinctive shooting.
I think the last two have fallen out of favor with LE and military training, but I have no experience with either recently.
Point Shooting! - YouTube
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AJ
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In the Corps we were taught a lot of aimed fire as you call it. When I was assigned to a F.A.S.T. Company, we did a lot of point shooting. With a pistol it was from 7 to 15 yards we used only the front sight. With a long gun it was from 15 to 25 yards (a few times to 50). The drills were generally from the holster with a handgun or slung with a longgun.
Point shooting is a good thing to know how to do, but it takes some practice. My guess is people just assume that one needs to use the sights on a pistol because they happen to be there.Personally, I think both aimed fire and point shooting should be taught, especially in defensive shooting classes. But that's just me and my ideas come from things I learned in the last century.
One of my biggest disagreements with the so called experts of defense shotgun instruction is their adamant belief that sights (both front and rear for aimed fire) are needed to be effective at close quarters combat ranges. But that's a different thread.
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AJ
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Personally, I think both aimed fire and point shooting should be taught, especially in defensive shooting classes. But that's just me and my ideas come from things I learned in the last century.
One of my biggest disagreements with the so called experts of defense shotgun instruction is their adamant belief that sights (both front and rear for aimed fire) are needed to be effective at close quarters combat ranges. But that's a different thread.
Point shooting would be good to teach to folks in a defensive shooting class. We learned it in an offensive shooting class. I never use my rear sight anymore until I get to 15 yards and farther. We shoot a Steel Challenge here with .22 LR at 15 for pistol and 25 for rifle. In both phases I only use my front sight (and I hit them all first try).
I taught a Combat Shotgun Course also. Wonderful things can be accomplished with a shotgun if you know how to use it.
Both of the courses that I taught (Combat Pistol & Combat Shotgun) were designed by Lt.Col. Jeff Cooper and the Marine Corps.
Actually...when you think about it...the plastic mainspring housing is functionally equivalent to a steel mainspring housing. Plus it's lighter...it won't rust...and yes, it's cheaper.
Some of my Colts have plastic mainspring housings, and some have steel, but there's no difference between them when you squeeze the trigger.
Now, having said that...I much prefer steel, just for the sake of tradition.
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