My NY-1 and NYPD Collection photo heavy

[Realgunner]

Thank you to everyone for the positive comments!

wheelgun28, Do you know when NYPD made the switch from the "pencil barrel" Model 10 to the heavy barrel Model 10? If anyone else knows, please reply. I'm thinking particularly of RichCapeCod. Thanks to all in advance.

 

[ladder13]

The only person I know that may top that is RMVivas, I've never seen a better collection on this forum.

 

[BlueLineNYPD]

As some of you know I have been collecting these for a while now. I just added a few more with the help of a forum member. So heres a few pictures broken out a little bit but. I think I have at least one of every model offered, but not every variation of.

J Frames

3 M60 NY-1 All AWP serial Prefix, all have silhouette stamp. A NYPD 640 and a later 640-2 38 special.



A group of 64s NY-1 varying ages and dashes. 4" Square, 4" Round, 3" Round, 2" Round.



More of the 64s with doubles and two 1946 pre 10 NYPD guns. Both have badge numbers stamped on the grip.



We cannot forget that Ruger was the other supplier during this time so, this is what the offered. In no order, GPNY, SPNY, Speed Six, Police Special,



The accumulation all at once...



As far as I know its the only collection of all the DAO NY-1 guns with some extras.

I might actually start filling in all the variations of each model as time and funds allow.

Feel free to add yours to the thread.

I know not everyone loves NYPD or DAO guns but I enjoy them and hope you will too!

Beautiful collection.
Can you tell what models these are?

 

[BlueLineNYPD]

Can anyone identify the exact models of these two wheel guns?

Can anyone tell me what exact model the gun with the wooden grip is?

 

[murphydog]

Can anyone tell me what exact model the gun with the wooden grip is?

It appears to be a model 640, a stainless DAO J frame. The one above it appears to be a model 642, with an alloy frame - the finish difference between the steel barrel/cylinder and the frame is visible in the photo.

 

[kbm6893]

When the job made the switch to semi autos in 1993, guys with revolvers were selling them for 100 bucks including the leather duty gear. Blued spurred hammer revolver guys hung on to theirs more often since a blued spurred hammer gun was kind of a status symbol, labeling you an "old timer", even if you got the last of them in 1988.

The Ruger Six duty gun was called the Police Service Six. It got replaced by the GP100 when Ruger stopped making the Six guns.

Great collection, but one only gun enthusiasts and cop collectors can appereciate. I once tried to sell my Ruger SPNY to a local shop and he offered me 20 bucks!

 

[Tradewind36]

I found one of the 60's at a local pawn shop, still debating whether or not to make the purchase, kinda wanted a 3" SA/DA, I didn't realize it's a classic.

 

[05CarbonDRZ]

I have a frosted finish SB 4" NY-1 if You decide to fill in this spot PM me.Its a 64-5 with the Serial Number stamped under the Cylinder on the Frame.

 

[BlueLineNYPD]

It appears to be a model 640, a stainless DAO J frame. The one above it appears to be a model 642, with an alloy frame - the finish difference between the steel barrel/cylinder and the frame is visible in the photo.

I purchased the 640 around 1993 while on the NYPD and was told it was called the 640 Centennial, but after reading through the forum, it appears that there are different variations of the 640.
I was also told by Smith and Wesson that the gun was not made to shoot + P ammo while the NYPD not only said the opposite but trained us and supplied us with + P.

 

[murphydog]

Welcome! The model 640 is called a Centennial Stainless. The first ones were stamped "Tested for +P+" in the frame window but I think the lawyers heard about that and squashed it, so it is not surprising the factory stated no +P. There was an NYPD specific 640-2 and you may have purchased one of those.

 

[MajorD]

Trade wind- as I understand it if you see a three inch 60 ny1 it was a gun the nypd returned to smith when they phased them out ( these would be guns still in nypd inventory left unsold when they decided to withdraw them) and smith rebarreled to three inch for resale. References state this specifically to avoid confusion since the three inch 60 was never authorized for duty

 

[Redcoat3340]

Now THAT'S a collection. And HE'S a collector, not an "accumulator?, "sorta?," collector, guy-who-just-likes-buying-guns like me.

I'm just blown away, impressed, and now feeling like I gotta up my game.

Thanks for sharing with us.

 

[Old TexMex]

This needs to be bumped, just in case anyone missed it. Wonderful collection.

 

[les.b]

Wheelgun28:

Wonderful collection!!! This thread needs new legs...

Best Regards, Les

 

[jframejoey]

wow.......just wow

 

[TAROMAN]

Heard about a break in at the NYPD armory yrars ago..

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[S&W2244]

Really nice collection. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Texas Star]

Trade wind- as I understand it if you see a three inch 60 ny1 it was a gun the nypd returned to smith when they phased them out ( these would be guns still in nypd inventory left unsold when they decided to withdraw them) and smith rebarreled to three inch for resale. References state this specifically to avoid confusion since the three inch 60 was never authorized for duty

That's odd, because the blued M-36-1 was authorized. Ayoob once wrote that it was developed for NYPD women, as I recall. Back then, 1967 (?), they still used selective DA guns.
M-36-1 was well received and most commercial three-inchers thereafter were that heavy barreled type. I think the Queensland state police in Australia also issued them.

What percentage of cops in NYC used Rugers? I know the S&W's were more popular.

At one time, Colt Official Police revolvers were common, but I think they got tired of timing problems and of Colts often needing the barrels turned slightly to get the sights on target. Chas. Askins told me that he had to re-sight almost all of the Colt .38's he bought for the USBP. The final straw was that Colt dropped the OP in 1969 and the redesigned Colts made later did not prove popular.

 

[wheelgun28]

Thanks for all the kind words!!

I have added a few, and am looking at the automatics now too...

Heres probably the nicest NY-1 that is not an overrun gun.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-re...536-my-newest-ny-1-addition-its-nice-one.html

I have a few 3914 DAOs too but no pics...

 

[kbm6893]

That's odd, because the blued M-36-1 was authorized. Ayoob once wrote that it was developed for NYPD women, as I recall. Back then, 1967 (?), they still used selective DA guns.
M-36-1 was well received and most commercial three-inchers thereafter were that heavy barreled type. I think the Queensland state police in Australia also issued them.

What percentage of cops in NYC used Rugers? I know the S&W's were more popular.

At one time, Colt Official Police revolvers were common, but I think they got tired of timing problems and of Colts often needing the barrels turned slightly to get the sights on target. Chas. Askins told me that he had to re-sight almost all of the Colt .38's he bought for the USBP. The final straw was that Colt dropped the OP in 1969 and the redesigned Colts made later did not prove popular.

Most of the guys chose the S&W. I'd say maybe 25% chose the Ruger for duty guns. The off duty SPNY or earlier Speed Six were more common. They were cheaper than the Smiths.