My Rant of the Day

[JeffD607]

Why do sellers on Gunbroker and other websites refuse to sell to people in certain states where the sale is perfectly LEGAL? I have had this happen to me and see it often on Gunbroker. In New York state, a pinned & recessed Smith & Wesson revolver is only required to be shipped to an FFL like in many other states. I understand the right of refusal, but when people refuse to make a perfectly legal sale because they don't like that states laws, it further penalizes the legal gun owner.

 

[James K]

Yeah, same for Cali. Not even C&R or Antiques.

 

[Bro. Dave]

...I don't know if "ignorance is bliss" but I do know that it is rampant.
My guess is that the effort required to parse what is legal and what is not selling firearms in various states is more than many are willing to exert.

My secondary guess is that the fear of violating some draconian, convoluted handgun law is greater than the desire to wade through the regulations to ensure compliance.

 

[Breakaway500]

Amazon does this on knives to my location. No state/local/federal laws prevent the sales but you cannot buy and ship to my home address.When asked they just say its policy.

 

[Alpo]

Sportsman's guide - I don't know if they still do this but they used to. They would not sell a Bowie knife to somebody in Florida. If you have two identical appearing knives in their catalog, and one says it's a hunting knife and the other says it's a Bowie knife, they'll sell you the hunting knife but not the Bowie knife. Because Florida weapons laws specify that to carry a Bowie knife or a dagger or a dirk knife you need to have a carry permit. Not to OWN one - to CARRY one. So they would not sell a Bowie knife to anybody in Florida.



Then down in Dade county a bunch of Haitians started carrying machetes for self-defense. Because they couldn't get a gun permit, and there was no law against carrying a machete. So Dade county passed a law against carrying a machete. And Sportsman's guide would no longer sell a machete to Florida. Didn't matter that I'm at the other end of the state. Did not even matter that I tried to order one for my son-in-law in Georgia. But because it was being paid for from Florida they wouldn't sell it.



Strange people.

 

[LVSteve]

I had a chain pawn shop in AZ refuse to sell me a rifle while I was down there under the federal "adjoining state" exemption. Company policy.

Turned out to be a blessing, as I found a far better example for a great price here in NV.

 

[Repeater]

CCI ammo does this to RI residents. They'll bombard you with emails and online ads but, when you try to order, "We Cannot Ship To RI".
I'm done with them because of this.

 

[glenwolde]

In their defense, you only have to parse the gun laws of a single state. A dealer has to keep up with 50 states. Once a state starts deviating from the "norm" with its own unique restrictions it gets thrown into the "too complicated to figure out and can't keep up with the changes just refuse them all" pile.

 

[glenwolde]

I had a chain pawn shop in AZ refuse to sell me a rifle while I was down there under the federal "adjoining state" exemption. Company policy.

Turned out to be a blessing, as I found a far better example for a great price here in NV.

FYI the contiguous state rule was repealed decades ago. You can buy a long gun in any state as long as the rules of that state and your home state are followed. I worked at a large national retailer and we'd do it but we had a compliance department that kept up with all the rules. We could look them up on our intranet. If we misinterpreted it their 4473 software would reject it. After dealing with it I understand why they refuse. It's complicated as hell.

 

[Yendor357]

Yet another example of “that party” ruining everything in which they come in contact.

I feel sorry for my friends in Illinois.

 

[14daMoney]

Why do sellers on Gunbroker and other websites refuse to sell to people in certain states where the sale is perfectly LEGAL? I have had this happen to me and see it often on Gunbroker. In New York state, a pinned & recessed Smith & Wesson revolver is only required to be shipped to an FFL like in many other states. I understand the right of refusal, but when people refuse to make a perfectly legal sale because they don't like that states laws, it further penalizes the legal gun owner.

Because NYS is a Democrat/Liberal state controlled by more-on's. In NYS we can't use magazines that hold more than 10 rounds; but, we can carry all the 10 rounds magazines that we can carry, Got It .....!

 

[mauser9]

Yeah sounds like complicated BS in some states.

 

[Rat458]

Because NYS is a Democrat/Liberal state controlled by more-on's. In NYS we can't use magazines that hold more than 10 rounds; but, we can carry all the 10 rounds magazines that we can carry, Got It .....!

I have asked others when Washington joined other states with the 10 round band wagon.
Why is it better that I cant buy a 12 round replacement magazine so now I carry 2 10 rounders ?
I just get blank looks in response.

 

[llowry61]

It's what we used to refer to as a high friction transaction. Human nature is to avoid high friction activities unless absolutely necessary like the DMV or other government run organizations.

We spent a significant amount of time making transactions with our company as low friction as possible. This focus attracted customers and confirmed prior research that companies with low friction transactions had higher customer loyalty and were considered more trustworthy. Sometimes things that seem stupid and time consuming are exactly that.

 

[Skeet 028]

Personally I would probably not sell to people in some restrictive states...Not because of person...but because I amnot conversant with the regulations in other states...and even though you can read the regs...it doen't mean you will understand them. Heck I once got stopped in NJ by a state trooper because I had a gun rack in my back window...no gun...nothing. Yes he was wrong...but if you argue the points on the side of the road...you will lose...even if briefly. And you have to send the firearm to an instate dealer...what happens when the gun doesn't fit the law? You may be on the losing end of a transaction 2000 miles away