My Registered Smiths

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It's hard to be 72 years old and consider yourself a lucky man, but I am and I do. My user name, "WALSTIB" is first letters of a phrase from a Grateful Dead song, that goes "What a long strange trip it's been". I grew up on a farm, and my father was retired from 30 years in the US Navy, that spanned from a stint on the Yangtze Patrol clear into the 1950's. In the years before and including December 7, 1941, he was a Chief Machinist's Mate and also the Rifle and Pistol Team coach on the flagship of the Pacific Fleet, the USS Pennsylvania. While serving in that roll, he made a 1911 frame and completed it with a stock slide for each member of his team, and stamped their name on the left side of the frame. He test-fired his own, the last he made, three days before that terrible day. It is my proudest possession.

During the war, he became a Mustang officer, a full Lieutenant, and in 1946 the family went to Guam where he served as the XO of the Naval Barracks. While there, he bought a Registered Smith, at a time when .357 Magnums were not well known. He sent it off to Japan to a master gunsmith, to be full engraved, and have Ivory grips made for it, with a dragon engraved on each one. Back when he was on the Pennsy, one of the members of the team was a dentist, and that man fashioned grip fillers for each member of the team out of false-teeth material. an ugly shade of pink, they were the joke of the fleet, but worked very well! Anyway, when Dad sent the Registered Smith to Japan, he included the filler and ordered it duplicated in Ivory as well.

A note: before the war, he had bought an Outdoorsman for match work, equipped with King ventilated rib and the most amazing trigger job it has ever been my pleasure to squeeze off. The Registered Smith came back from Japan with a price tag of $55.00! He so liked the job that he sent a walnut stock from the Outdoorsman and asked for a set to be duplicated in Ivory, along with a second grip filler. They came back but the price for this much simpler job was now $105.00.



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So, I grew up with some pretty cool guns, which also included a pre-war 1911 National Match, a Colt Woodsman Match Target, and a Winchester 52 that weighed 12 pounds, and killed a sinful number of digger squirrels and wood peckers to please our cats. Being young and dumb, I didn't realize my good fortune, and just thought everyone had guns like these. I didn't realize it was very rare for a 12-year-old to be trusted to cast bullets and reload pistol, rifle and shotgun shells. When I went off to college in my 1957 Karmann Ghia, the Registered Smith went with me, and lived under the front seat for the entire time I was there. Different times indeed.

Anyway, many years later, I was at a gun show and saw an entire table of 5-screw Smiths. I had to check them out, since I knew I was looking at "old". My daddy taught me well ("once the bullet leaves the barrel, you can't take it back" I heard over and over) so when I picked each one up, my first action was to drop the cylinder to make sure it was peaceful. I picked up one of them with incredibly ugly (to me) stag grips, and the pistol had clearly been 'rode hard and hung up wet'. When I opened the cylinder, there in front of me was an imprint that started "REG" and a number. I looked at the tag hanging from the trigger guard and it said $200.00, and now I had a problem. Poker face time, and I figured the best defense was to go on offense. So, I asked the gentleman if he would consider $150.00? He said "No, $200.00 is a fair price" and I had to agree. Those were my single days (daze) so I always had $500.00 in my wallet as 'mad money' so I pulled out two Benjamin's and walked out of there with a second Registered Smith. I still smile when I think back on that. Now, parenthetically, I'm well married, and my wallet contains a $20.00 bill. Period. Still, I continue to cast bullets and love my Dillon XL-650 press. Plus I still have my childhood Herters Turret Press! And I still feel lucky, even at my age...
 

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Walstib, welcome to the Forum, and thank you for a great post! I sent you a PM requesting information on your two Reg Mags for the SWCA database.
 
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As others have said great story and thanks for sharing. Wouldn't you still like to have the 57 Karman Gia also ?
I wish I had talked with my father about his WWII pacific experiences before he passed when I was only 24. I know he was an Army Sgt at Fort Drum NY and his company commander put him in for OCS. He finished the war a first LT with PTSD that haunted him all his life. He did like handling the first rifle I bought when I turned 18 - a shooter grade M1 Garand.
 
Wow, great guns and thanks for the back story.
What I don't get is how twelve years has passed since you first mentioned these guns on the forum in your intro, and nobody on the forum ever asked you for more info and pictures.
Well, better late than never.

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Very cool! The story and the revolvers.
I would like more information and pictures. Kind of rare to own two Reg. Magnums. That Outdoorsman needs a post with pictures all by itself.
 
Welcome to the Forum...you made quite an entrance! Very nice RMs, and some unusual and interesting ivory stocks. Hope you stick around awhile and enjoy being a part of the S&W Forum. It might be time to add a few revolvers to your outstanding collection...at 72 years old you're just getting warmed up!
 
welcome and thanks for sharing the pictures of your registered magnums
 
The revolvers notwithstanding, your story of your Dad's military service is incredible. From a "Sand Pebble" (movie reference to a China Sailor) to a WWII Navy Mustang, is a story of the US Navy itself.

bigwheelzip's comment about how you originally posted 12 years ago and it seemed to fly over everyone's head could be a statement about how the collectability of these wonderful works of art (older S&W revolvers) has mushroomed over the last few years. You've got history in your hands with those nice RM's, and a treasure trove of great memories. We look forward to some more "war stories". Welcome, from western NC.
 
Yay, western NC!

The revolvers notwithstanding, your story of your Dad's military service is incredible. From a "Sand Pebble" (movie reference to a China Sailor) to a WWII Navy Mustang, is a story of the US Navy itself.

bigwheelzip's comment about how you originally posted 12 years ago and it seemed to fly over everyone's head could be a statement about how the collectability of these wonderful works of art (older S&W revolvers) has mushroomed over the last few years. You've got history in your hands with those nice RM's, and a treasure trove of great memories. We look forward to some more "war stories". Welcome, from western NC.
Hey, thanks for the response! My best friend lives in Deep Gap, NC, so I'm fairly familiar with your country, and love it! I personally stare out my window at 10,000+ feet of North Cascades, so I can relate to "the mountains"...

After the really bad day my dad (and the US Navy) had, he spent the next 3 days on the upturned hull of the USS Oklahoma. As a machinist CPO, he was directing crews who would listen for tapping sounds coming from inside. When they heard one, the would cut a hole in the hull, and release sailors to daylight. For the rest of his life, he mourned the ones they never got to.

Regarding the 12 years, I'm more of a lurker than a poster, I guess. I'm not responsible for other's postings, so I guess I just flew under the radar.
 
Great story!
A few questions-
Can you show us the $200 Reg Mag?
How do the ivory "grip fillers" attach to the gun?
Can you show more pics of the engraving and closeups of the grips?

OK, a somewhat overwhelming number of responses. So, before I upload any more pictures, I need to understand how this forum deals with file size. Virtually all of my jpegs are in the 4-5Meg size. Somewhere here I read that the max file size was 250K, so the 3 I posted were saved by me at that reduced resolution. In the other forum where I post (Camaro lovers), there is no such limitation, and my pictures come out pristine on their site. I am very disappointed at the resolution of my 3 here, and I suspect that is everyone's reaction as well, so please help me understand how large a jpeg I can actually upload.

Regarding the grip filler attachment, when you loosen the grip screw, they come off, and are revealed to have a small piece of U-shaped steel screwed to their frame side, which fits under each grip and is imprisoned by tightening the main screw. They have never come off, even from full charges at an adventurous level! "Works fine, lasts a long time" as we say out west.
 
OK, a somewhat overwhelming number of responses. So, before I upload any more pictures, I need to understand how this forum deals with file size. Virtually all of my jpegs are in the 4-5Meg size. Somewhere here I read that the max file size was 250K, so the 3 I posted were saved by me at that reduced resolution. In the other forum where I post (Camaro lovers), there is no such limitation, and my pictures come out pristine on their site. I am very disappointed at the resolution of my 3 here, and I suspect that is everyone's reaction as well, so please help me understand how large a jpeg I can actually upload.

Regarding the grip filler attachment, when you loosen the grip screw, they come off, and are revealed to have a small piece of U-shaped steel screwed to their frame side, which fits under each grip and is imprisoned by tightening the main screw. They have never come off, even from full charges at an adventurous level! "Works fine, lasts a long time" as we say out west.

Regarding posting images, The site has an auto-resize, so whatever the file size, it drops it to something it can upload. My photos are all high-rez, usually 3-4MB or larger, and I've had no problems uploading any of them. I use the little paperclip icon at the top of the posting box, it allows posting directly from your files. These images appear in a small size on the post, when clicked open full-size on the screen. You can also upload from a hosting site, but I'm less educated on how to do that.

I'm ex USAF, and a big WWII history buff; I've read about the rescues during Pearl Harbor, specifically about cutting through the hull of USS Oklahoma. That makes your Dad a hero by any definition.

Deep Gap isn't too far from me, about an hour north. That's Doc Watson country, I'm a huge fan of his music and was lucky enough to meet him and Merle many years ago. I grew up along the eastern slopes of the NC Appalachians, and spent part of my "wayward" youth hiking and camping these old hills. Not sure where in the Cascades you are, the only time I've been in that part of the world was some occasional TDY at McChord AFB in Tacoma. Beautiful part of the world out there.
 
Thanks for the info.

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Deep Gap isn't too far from me, about an hour north. That's Doc Watson country, I'm a huge fan of his music and was lucky enough to meet him and Merle many years ago. I grew up along the eastern slopes of the NC Appalachians, and spent part of my "wayward" youth hiking and camping these old hills. Not sure where in the Cascades you are, the only time I've been in that part of the world was some occasional TDY at McChord AFB in Tacoma. Beautiful part of the world out there.
Doc stored his tobacco when cut in Don's granny's barn, so yeah, Doc rules!!! As to where I am, a few minutes north is another country. A strategic location in these troubled times...

Regarding Pearl Harbor, the Pennsy happened to be in dry dock, so avoided all but one bomb. Dad's battle station was in the ship's machine shop, so he was well sheltered. That didn't help with their sister-ship, the Arizona... A cruiser was berthed in their normal location, at 1010 dock. The Admiral didn't like to get his feet wet, apparently, so they never berthed in Battleship Row... The cruiser was well damaged, and Tokyo Rose announced to the world that the Pennsylvania was destroyed! That's what my Mama heard, living with her 2 girls in San Francisco... Hard times. Anyway, I'll try uploading some better pics.
 

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What a great group of guns to have from your family!!
The thought that when you shoot these guns you can have the same enjoyment you father had and think of how many times his hands were wrapped around the same gun. I love working history, thats what I enjoy most about S&W collecting. Adding that its an heirloom must be most satisfying to you.

Now on another note I love King sighted guns and your fathers King OD is identical to mine and has a somewhat similar history.

My OD was bought from Kings shop in March of 1938 by a college student who ended up in the Navy for 20 years then the Navel Reserve. He retired as a Lieutenant commander. He then ended up in Washington state as a judge. His relative believes that he was on a shooting team during college and the Navy but so far I have not been able to confirm his.Not sure how to find that info.
It seems possible your father may have crossed paths with the past owner of my gun. They sure shared the same taste and service path.

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That's what my Mama heard, living with her 2 girls in San Francisco... .

If your father lived in San Fran its possible he would have either bought his gun from Kings shop or may have took it directly to them for the rib conversion. Do you have letters for any of your guns?
 
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Wow! What beautiful guns.


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Wow, great guns and thanks for the back story.
What I don't get is how twelve years has passed since you first mentioned these guns on the forum in your intro, and nobody on the forum ever asked you for more info and pictures.
Well, better late than never.

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First off to the OP, welcome to the forum (only 12 years late on my part), great story and revolvers!! Thank goodness these did not get lost over the last 75+ years. Being such a great part of your family history, I am sure they will be kept in the family for generations to come.

As far as "nobody on the forum ever asked you for more info and pictures", I may have an idea. Unfortunately, I don't visit all the different sections on the forum. Some I go to every visit here, some I rarely visit, and dare I say it, some I may have never visited.:eek: I am ashamed to say that I have not visited the welcoming to new folks section very many times at all in my years here. Now, don't get me wrong, I have extended a warm welcome when I was looking at something they posted in one of my regular visited areas. Many here may be like myself. If information on these gems of guns had been put in this section originally, it would have gotten the attention then too. Thanks for sharing with us!!
Larry
 
Thank you to everyone!!!

Wow, I didn't expect such a warm welcome. I've lived with these guns, literally, all my life (with the exception of the second Registered which was just pure luck), so it's not that I'm blase, it's just that they're all I've known over that length of time. And please understand, they aren't my only guns, or even my only cool guns, and none of them are the King of my Fleet. That honor is reserved for one of my rifles, which is a true KING. It's just that this is a S&W forum, not one dedicated to handmade rifles of the highest quality.

As a 'for instance', I love my 686, my 'Dirty Harry' 8 3/8" 44 Mag, and especially my 41 Mag that lives by my bed (as they say in the Navy, "stand by to repel boarders"). Then of course there are the several Colts... Even a Colt shotgun, which will make most people scratch their head. ("Colt made a shotgun?").

And the loves of my small bore life, three Winchester 52's. Because there is no such thing as too many Winchester 52's. Like the book title says: "Winchester 52: Perfection in Design".

And there are others...

But, in the world of Smith and Wesson, these guys have my heart, and they are, none of them, hanger queens. They see use. Especially the Outdoorsman.

So anyway, thank you all, and I'll try to get to various questions, over time...
 
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