My review of the Juvicator B.A.D. lever.
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Subscribed. Looking forward to ordering one of these. Do you have a waiting list going? Or a site for prepayment?
CAJUNLAWYER
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forgive me for asking, but I've read this entire thread and for the life of me can't figure out what this thing is for and what exactly is it that it actually does?
CAJUNLAWYER
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Oh........OK. Think I'll go back to the old fart forums.
Aceman58
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Still waiting... any news... I got the aluminum charging handle with a DNZ extended latch, just need the BAD lever now..
thanks
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Here's an explanation from Magpul.
THEORY BASED PRODUCTS - B.A.D. Lever® - Battery Assist Device – AR15/M16
First of all, Juvicator, You rock man, thanks for puttin so much time and effort into a project like this!
Now, Two things I would like to see before I bought this product, and trust me, fix these two things and I would be all over this. And again, just suggestions, First, start the downward slope further towards the rear, aligning with the all ready existing groove in the gun, thus removing the need for clearence of the mag drop button. And then a gradual slope back towards the front of the gun along with thinning the piece of metal at this point so there is not so much metal in my trigger gaurd. Thats the hard part.....Easy part.....Black
Now, Two things I would like to see before I bought this product, and trust me, fix these two things and I would be all over this. And again, just suggestions, First, start the downward slope further towards the rear, aligning with the all ready existing groove in the gun, thus removing the need for clearence of the mag drop button. And then a gradual slope back towards the front of the gun along with thinning the piece of metal at this point so there is not so much metal in my trigger gaurd. Thats the hard part.....Easy part.....Black
The actual physics of the lever is a pain. The thing is that the fulcrum point is the hinge of the ping pong paddle. The arm can't be closer to the side of the lower or when it is actuated it will hit right below the paddle. Now I can try and make it snake a little closer to the forward side of the trigger guard might be able to scootch it over 1/8 inch or so. I will look at it again and see what can be tweaked. As far as black, yes I have a new contact that's going to let me sneak in a handfull into the tank when I get back.
Aceman58
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Read the bad news, hang in there, and not to worry about it, family always comes first....
thanks,
thanks,
Gatillo
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I've got some news. I just got the Magpul B.A.D. Lever delivered today. I'll do the custom mod myself to make it work on my 15-22.
No more waiting!
Edited to add pics post install.
As mentioned in some of the earlier posts in this thread, there were a few tweaks that had to be made to the Magpul unit for it work on the 15-22, but these were relatively minor adjustments and created only a couple of small cosmetic imperfections (or what I call a "patina").
Just running the rifle dry, I can see there's gonna be a bit of training needed before I feel completely comfortable competing with this upgrade. But the initial impression is a GOOD one!
As you can see, especially in the third pic, the unit fits up and tight and away from the trigger. I may tweak it a bit more so that it sits less extended out of the guard, but that's not a big deal.
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Aceman58
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Gatillo, may I ask if you heated up the BAD lever prior to forming it?? I too want one real bad and based on your photo's it looks very minor on the bends... I would like to wait but I am having so much fun training with the little M&P I want to keep the training the same as my full size ARs with the BAD levers on them... I am looking with my finger for the BAD on my M&P 15/22 when shooting and reloading, yea, it's all about training, all about training......Thanks.
PS : I'd hate to cold form it and snap a ($28 with shipping) aluminum unit due to my Arnold muscles...yea right..
PS : I'd hate to cold form it and snap a ($28 with shipping) aluminum unit due to my Arnold muscles...yea right..
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photoracer
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I just put the arm in one of my bigger vises and ran it down till it started bending the curve back straight. That is actually enough to make it work in the 15-22, although I gound a little of the side towards the front to it did not hit the inside front of the triggerguard just for grins.
Gatillo
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Aceman, all the modifications were made cold using a vise, pliers and a little tap of a hammer. Granted, that may not be the "proper and acceptable" way due to creating some potential metal fatigue issues and the possibility of failure in the long term (I'll post any future problems should that be the case). However, it's worked well and the investment in the part and time spent modifying it was relatively minor when compared to the instant gratification felt having a working B.A.D lever on my rifle.
Frankly, I'd love to have bought Juvicator's lever and it's not my intention to hijack this thread, but I'm the practical kind and enough time has gone by that I felt it wouldn't be a "bad" idea to share this.
If you're going to try it, just be sure to take your time and make the bends in very small increments until it's right.
Frankly, I'd love to have bought Juvicator's lever and it's not my intention to hijack this thread, but I'm the practical kind and enough time has gone by that I felt it wouldn't be a "bad" idea to share this.
If you're going to try it, just be sure to take your time and make the bends in very small increments until it's right.
Also have a Magpul BAD.. Used no heat,tiny bends,sanded off some un-needed material that came in contact W/lower inside trigger well(when operated), "black paint" *I used automotive undercoating from a can,its VERY tough stuff.
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