Oh I've seen plenty of factory mil spec ammo sealed but not with commercial headstamp.
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BigCityChief
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Glad you're ok. Please let us know what S&W says about it.
autocar56
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Did the shot before sound strange or the gun do any thing abnormal. just curious
Jim Watson
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A couple of comments, one arising reflexively on the other board where I am no registered.
Glaser has not always been a Corbon product. I don't recall when Peter Pi bought out Glaser but there is a possibility you have pre-Corbon ammo.
If it is Corbon vintage Glaser, I think ol' Pete owes you a gun.
His predecessor is likely out of reach.
Out of battery?
The primer was hit in the center. Have these folks ever looked at a Browning type action to see what the barrel does as it moves out of battery?
S&W will treat you right but I doubt they will do it for free.
Glaser has not always been a Corbon product. I don't recall when Peter Pi bought out Glaser but there is a possibility you have pre-Corbon ammo.
If it is Corbon vintage Glaser, I think ol' Pete owes you a gun.
His predecessor is likely out of reach.
Out of battery?
The primer was hit in the center. Have these folks ever looked at a Browning type action to see what the barrel does as it moves out of battery?
S&W will treat you right but I doubt they will do it for free.
I guess this is not true anymore as I just went thru this with Corbon ammo I recently bought at Cabelas. I noticed when I got it home to load my mags that the brass had WIN stamped on the casings. So I go back up there to see what was going on and sure as hell we looked at 4 other boxes and they were all stamped WIN (no Corbon stamp like I had before). Another employee there said that that's not uncommon.
PHPistols
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I would not only call S&W but Corbon/Blaser.
catcus-jack
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Why would S&W be squirming they didn't load it with unknown ammo.My quess he had a squib and fired another round behind it.I can not see that much damage without a barrel obstruction.If S&W replaces his pistol it is out of the goodness of their heart.They are not responsiable for this.
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As mentioned by another poster, and my observation of your pictured rounds, you have some serious setback issues. Even very minor bullet setback in .40 S&W can lead to catastrophic kB's in any handgun that chambered for the 40. Glock's seem to garner a more then their fair share because of the barrel rifling they use, causing greater lead builup in their barrels causing increase in pressures for an already high pressure round. Don't clean your Glock 40's, use old and beatup, or reloaded ammo with bullet setback, and you have a recipe for disaster. In your case, I'm willing to bet it's all about that defective ammo you picture.
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I have several older boxes of Corbon .40 ammo. Most of it is loaded in Star Line brass. Some are stamped corbon. I am a range officer and we have had a few .40 Glocks blow apart over the years. All from case ruptures. .40 is a very high pressure round and any handgun could blow apart when subjected to this much pressure being released. Glocks usually blow because the loose unsupported chamber puts too much stress on the brass. Any flaw could cause a case rupture.
surferdaddy
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I've had Winchester 9mm pdx1 sealed just like that, bought new from cabelas.
OLDSTER
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Yikes !!! Let us know what S&W response
Yikes !!! Let us know what S&W response
I tend to agree with you. I have had a squib load before and luckily knew something was wrong and did not fire the next round.
Glad you were not injured.
Bikemobile
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Questions:
I cant tell from the pics. Is the chamber intact? If so then you must have had an out of battery primer strike? The location of the damage makes it look like the round that was in the top of the magazine fired on its way to the chamber?
Interesting.
I cant tell from the pics. Is the chamber intact? If so then you must have had an out of battery primer strike? The location of the damage makes it look like the round that was in the top of the magazine fired on its way to the chamber?
Interesting.
Bikemobile
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Looking at the pics of the primer on the other forum it looks like the shell itself exploded during extraction. A new twist on FTE!!
::insert smiley eating popcorn waiting to hear what really happened!::
::insert smiley eating popcorn waiting to hear what really happened!::
I do not recall the first round sounding different. This is a small 3" barrel so the likely hood of it staying in there is probably low already, not sure. But I don't recall anything out of the ordinary from the first shot.
WallyJJ
Any idea when Corbon took control of Glaser? I am guessing these rounds are between 10 and 17 years old although if I had to guess I would say around 10 to 12 years old.
WallyJJ
Interesting thread. You kept referencing that this was "old" ammo. I hope you send all the parts and pieces to S&W for a full analysis. I would be pretty sure they can replicate what happened. Be advised, it may not require them to give you a new firearm.
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