Nasty filters from my truck

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Below are pictures of the engine and HVAC filters from my truck. Both were changed five months ago. The engine filter isn't too bad, but the HVAC filters are ugly. No clue what the small seeds are. The HVAC filters box says change every 12 months. I don't think so.:eek:
 

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Below are pictures of the engine and HVAC filters from my truck. Both were changed five months ago. The engine filter isn't too bad, but the HVAC filters are ugly. No clue what the small seeds are. The HVAC filters box says change every 12 months. I don't think so.:eek:

I always look if K&N has replacement filters. We have them in our vehicles for the engine and in some cases they make cabin filters as well. Worth the money.
 
I always look if K&N has replacement filters. We have them in our vehicles for the engine and in some cases they make cabin filters as well. Worth the money.

K&N have a more open filter material. They offer better airflow by allowing more through. A K&N might not have caught the little seeds we see here. I like the stock filters.
 
I wish I had a picture of it..........when I bought the little SUV I have now, it had 66K miles on it and it still had the original factory cabin filter in it. Shortly after I bought it, I noticed the air flow wasn't as powerful as it should be. This particular vehicle has a 2 piece vertical mounted filter and it was so crusted with dirt, leaves, etc. that I had to break out the shop vac after I pulled the filter out.
 
The dirtier a filter gets the better it filters, to a point.

I change mine after every pollen season.
 
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Meh, you think those look bad you should see the one I pulled out of my wife's 2009 Kia last summer. It hadn't been changed since we got it back in 2012, and might never have been changed. It was GREEN. Now that I know about it, it will never get that way again, but that thing was NASTY.
 
K&N have a more open filter material. They offer better airflow by allowing more through. A K&N might not have caught the little seeds we see here. I like the stock filters.

I've been using a K&N filter in one of my cars for years and I disagree, you might want to check out their website FAQ's:

5. What is the micron rating and efficiency of a K&N air filter?
Automotive air filters are not rated by micron size, they are rated by efficiency. K&N tests the filtering ability of our air filters using the ISO 5011 test procedure. In general, most K&N air filters will test between 97%-99% efficiency. Some air filters have their air filter test data published in the Available Information section of the product details page for that part number.

8. More airflow means you are letting more dirt through, right?
No, not at all. K&N air filters operate using a much different technology than other types of air filters. Most disposable filters are "barrier filters". That is, their filtering media acts as a physical barrier to dust particles, and once a dust particle covers a pore in the media, air can no longer flow through that space. This principle is called "surface loading". K&N air filters are built using a fabric filtering material which absorbs dirt and dust particles instead of physically blocking them. This is a principle called "depth loading". The pores in the material continue to let air flow through as the filter absorbs dirt in the media.
 
My truck has 180,000 miles on it. Today I am going to find out whether or not it has a cabin filter. :eek::D

Thank you for posting this. LOL

I'v had K&N filters in the past with no real issues. I hated cleaning them and re-oiling them so I just stick with quality paper air filters like WIX.
 
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My friend didn't know their commuter 2003 Honda Accord had a cabin filter. I don't think it had ever been changed until last summer when I told them that was the reason their AC didn't blow very hard anymore.

It was black. I shudder to think what was blowing out of that filter into the car.
 
I've been using a K&N filter in one of my cars for years and I disagree, you might want to check out their website FAQ's:

5. What is the micron rating and efficiency of a K&N air filter?
Automotive air filters are not rated by micron size, they are rated by efficiency. K&N tests the filtering ability of our air filters using the ISO 5011 test procedure. In general, most K&N air filters will test between 97%-99% efficiency. Some air filters have their air filter test data published in the Available Information section of the product details page for that part number.

8. More airflow means you are letting more dirt through, right?
No, not at all. K&N air filters operate using a much different technology than other types of air filters. Most disposable filters are "barrier filters". That is, their filtering media acts as a physical barrier to dust particles, and once a dust particle covers a pore in the media, air can no longer flow through that space. This principle is called "surface loading". K&N air filters are built using a fabric filtering material which absorbs dirt and dust particles instead of physically blocking them. This is a principle called "depth loading". The pores in the material continue to let air flow through as the filter absorbs dirt in the media.

Despite what K&N may claim, they can't get around the laws of physics. There are only two ways to get more air through a filtration system: 1) Increase the surface area of the filter or 2) increase the size of the openings in the filter material. Since the surface area of K&N filters designed to replace stock filters is the same, that only leaves option 2. Using a K&N or similar type filter won't cause your vehicle to die a sudden death in a short amount of time, but if you keep your vehicles long enough, they will let more dirt in than the stock filter will, which will lead to more wear over time.

Depending on the vehicle, things can get even worse. The stock filter on a 2006 Duramax for example, is a round cartridge resembling a large diameter of blue paper towels. The K&N replacement is their standard cone shaped pleated filter. In tests, because of the stock filter's design which increased surface area via its design, the stock filter out performed the K&N considerably. Yet the same tests proved the K&N let more particles through. One of the important factors in this test is the fact that diesels draw far more air than gasoline engines, which directly equates to more dirt. The test results simply reinforced what had already been explained to me about the physical properties of filters.

Use K&N if you wish - it's your choice - just don't fall for some of their advertising bologna. Remember, snake oil by any other name is still snake oil.
 
Despite what K&N may claim, they can't get around the laws of physics. There are only two ways to get more air through a filtration system: 1) Increase the surface area of the filter or 2) increase the size of the openings in the filter material. Since the surface area of K&N filters designed to replace stock filters is the same, that only leaves option 2. Using a K&N or similar type filter won't cause your vehicle to die a sudden death in a short amount of time, but if you keep your vehicles long enough, they will let more dirt in than the stock filter will, which will lead to more wear over time.

Depending on the vehicle, things can get even worse. The stock filter on a 2006 Duramax for example, is a round cartridge resembling a large diameter of blue paper towels. The K&N replacement is their standard cone shaped pleated filter. In tests, because of the stock filter's design which increased surface area via its design, the stock filter out performed the K&N considerably. Yet the same tests proved the K&N let more particles through. One of the important factors in this test is the fact that diesels draw far more air than gasoline engines, which directly equates to more dirt. The test results simply reinforced what had already been explained to me about the physical properties of filters.

Use K&N if you wish - it's your choice - just don't fall for some of their advertising bologna. Remember, snake oil by any other name is still snake oil.

Do you have links to these tests? I haven't had much luck finding actual filter test results. Have you read how K&N uses different methods/technology to trap dirt? Perhaps there is an option 3 you haven't considered.

Unless you are talking about turbocharged diesel engine (such as the Duramax) vs a naturally aspirated gasoline engine, diesel engines do not draw far more air than gasoline engines. The amount of air taken in by an engine, according to the law of physics, is primarily a function of displacement and intake efficiency and the intake efficiency between the two engines in naturally aspirated form is about the same.
 
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If changing them is so important it would be nice to engineer it so you didn't need to disassemble the vehicle to get at them.

This 1000%. After doing the work on my truck I checked Youtube for the procedure on my wife's car. The removal of 2x10mm nuts, 2xTorx screws and some electrical connections is required. As it's a BMW filters are not available at Autozone or O Reilly.
 
i just had the dealership, where i bought my car, change the air and cabin filter at the same time they changed the oil.....
 
Well I found out that my 2011 Chevy doesn't have a cabin filter.

Now I'm afraid that I'm going to die.
 
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