Nasty filters from my truck

I've been using a K&N filter in one of my cars for years and I disagree, you might want to check out their website FAQ's:
Yes, I'm sure there are plenty of wonderful things K&N has to say about their filters on their website.

I've used K&N filters. I've tried different spark plugs. I've used many of the wonder products out there and none of them have done what they claim. K&N claims that you'll get better gas mileage with their filters; you won't. They claim better filtering. How do you know? I mean, besides what it says on their own website, how do you know?

I still maintain that some of those tiny seeds could have gotten through a K&N filter.
 
Yes, I'm sure there are plenty of wonderful things K&N has to say about their filters on their website.

I've used K&N filters. I've tried different spark plugs. I've used many of the wonder products out there and none of them have done what they claim. K&N claims that you'll get better gas mileage with their filters; you won't. They claim better filtering. How do you know? I mean, besides what it says on their own website, how do you know?

I still maintain that some of those tiny seeds could have gotten through a K&N filter.

I would like to see more independent testing, too. However, they do state that they follow the testing protocol specified by ISO 5011, previously SAE J-726. They claim 94+% filtering depending on model, which matches one independent test I found. I find it hard to believe they would risk false claims on an easily verifiable standardized test. I always take the horsepower/mileage claims with a grain of salt, too. Some of the claims are within the uncertainty of the measurements. I've tried roller rockers (supposedly 5 HP) and windage trays (5 HP), and neither showed a measureable improvement in quarter mile times or speed. I didn't necessarily buy my filter based on their claims, I liked the fact that they are reuseable.

And don't all the filter manufacturers claim theirs is the best? So, like you said, how do you know?
 
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The dirtier a filter gets the better it filters, to a point.

It also increases the restriction to the intake of the fan. Increasing inlet restrictions can work a fan to the point of failure. Most common HVAC home fan failure.
 
Question to all auto-makers - Why do you make it so hard to access the air filters and even more difficult to change them?

I remember when when one wingnut was the only device holding the cover of the air filter housing on top of the carburetor! The air filter could be replaced in less that a minute. Now days it takes several minutes just to FIND the air filter housing and ten minutes to undo all of the snaps, latches, screws to access it. Once you have all of the attaching items free, you discover that other parts of the car are preventing the removal of the air cleaner housing cover so they have to be re-positioned/removed. Changing the air filter is now a 30 to 45 minute task if you are lucky.
 
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This 1000%. After doing the work on my truck I checked Youtube for the procedure on my wife's car. The removal of 2x10mm nuts, 2xTorx screws and some electrical connections is required. As it's a BMW filters are not available at Autozone or O Reilly.

My 2012 Nissan was the same way.

To change it on my new Tacoma, there's a door in the back of the glove box...open it and pull filter out. No tools needed.
 
Despite what K&N may claim, they can't get around the laws of physics. There are only two ways to get more air through a filtration system: 1) Increase the surface area of the filter or 2) increase the size of the openings in the filter material. Since the surface area of K&N filters designed to replace stock filters is the same, that only leaves option 2. Using a K&N or similar type filter won't cause your vehicle to die a sudden death in a short amount of time, but if you keep your vehicles long enough, they will let more dirt in than the stock filter will, which will lead to more wear over time. .


I don't know if this is applicable to air filters or not but I sold pressure "sand" filters for industrial applications - wastewater treatment, plating etc. One of the the tecnologies used is depth filtration. This means that the contaminants are captured for some depth within the filter media and not just on the surface. This extended the length of filter runs we could get.
Some of these filters had 7 different types of media in them. The top layer was large and light - anthracite or plastic to catch the large stuff and then it got smaller progressively to catch smaller particles. Then the media got larger because it's purpose was to support the filtration media. The specific gravity of the media was also important because during back washing after the media had expanded and tumbled it had to re-stratify in the proper order. We even used garnet sand because it was denser than silica sand and re-stratified better.
 
I don't know if this is applicable to air filters or not but I sold pressure "sand" filters for industrial applications - wastewater treatment, plating etc. One of the the tecnologies used is depth filtration. This means that the contaminants are captured for some depth within the filter media and not just on the surface. This extended the length of filter runs we could get.
Some of these filters had 7 different types of media in them. The top layer was large and light - anthracite or plastic to catch the large stuff and then it got smaller progressively to catch smaller particles. Then the media got larger because it's purpose was to support the filtration media. The specific gravity of the media was also important because during back washing after the media had expanded and tumbled it had to re-stratify in the proper order. We even used garnet sand because it was denser than silica sand and re-stratified better.

You are correct, see post #11. K&N does use depth filtration.
 
I see that the cabin air filter is not standard on that model. You can get a retrofit kit from Autozone. Damned sure I would in this city.

Its not something I would be interest in. I'm actually happy it doesn't one. :)
 
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