Navy Seals / UDT ???

[robbt]

howdy , is there a registry of former UDT / Navy Seals
trying to find out whether someone was or was not a UDT???
please post , robbt

 

[robbt]

howdy , is there a registry of former UDT / Navy Seals
trying to find out whether someone was or was not a UDT???
please post , robbt

 

[1911-BILL]

I was wondering the same thing, its funny how many people say that they were seals and they were never even in the Navy.

 

[Steave]

I think there are several or at least there used to be several years ago when I wanted to check someone out, turned out he was a liar as I suspected. I think if you google "fake SEAL" you should be able to find what you are looking for.

 

[jaysouth]

What does tupperwear and walruses have in commmon?


Both are always on the lookout for a good tight seal.

 

[walkinghorse]

As susggested found this on google

http://cyberseals.org/SEAL%20Imposters.html

I had used the previous site which they say is now closed for a similar request some time ago.

 

[roundgunner]

You can surf the forum.

http://www.navyseals.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14

Many / most wont advertize. Idiots want to test you while you are with your family or whatever. The saying goes something like if he says he is, he's not.

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

I met a Navy SEAL-a Captain-at a Friends of NRA Event 2 years ago-first one I ever met. I asked him if he was wearing the SEAL Badge, he said yes, then he said:
"There's two ways to get it. First, you go to the BX"
IIRC the badge is gold for those who graduate and are assigned to teams, silver for those who don't.

 

[ditrina]

Just a thought.. It would seem to me.. that the U.D.T and S.E.A.L designation is an "Qualification" that is earned..but without actually looking at a persons DD 214 ( or service record ) one would never know..
Just a thought..
But I can tell you a story about a real SEAL..
It was in 1967/68 a SEAL was attached to our squadron. None of us had ever seen the device he was wearing, just heard scuttlebutt..
Stayed all of about two weeks never spoke much to anyone or told stories.. then he disappeared.. it seems that he should have never been assigned to us .. he pointed out that a "mistake" was made, and then he was gone..
Amazing what you remember after 40 years when you meet the real deal

U.S.N 1966/1970
ADJ 2
Helicopter Combat Support Sq. 4

 

[Bob R]

IIRC the badge is gold for those who graduate and are assigned to teams, silver for those who don't.

Those who don't get sent back to the fleet to swab the decks, they don't get a badge.

There is a website maintained for the purpose of outing liars. Every one who has ever been a UDT/SEAL is listed.

If I had a nickle for every SEAL I met at bars or at gunshows I would be rich.

I did meet some, my plane was the jump platform for the Navy Parachute Team (Leapfrogs) for a few shows in 1990. Every member of the team at that time was a SEAL except for one parachute rigger. It's about the only shore duty they can get.

If they say they are, they probably aren't.

Go here if you want to verify.


Read this:
http://www.lovefraud.com/07_ho...ilitary_service.html

Then go here.

http://pownetwork.org/

Or Here.

http://www.cyberseals.org/authentiseal/

If you find out he is a fraud then use this to bust him:

http://www.homeofheroes.com/herobill/

The FBI will investigate.

bob

 

[EQGuy]

Back in the days when I used to compete in NRA Highpower over the course match shooting we had our state matches at the Coalinga rifle range. In the 1990's the Seals rented the range during the summer to learn sniper craft and they had a big tent set up there. They would take the weekend off and compete in the match with us. I heard some pretty interesting stories around the campfire or in the pits pulling targets. I will say one thing, those guys are crazy and sure do know how to party. I also noticed that most of them were not muscle bound but pretty wiry. I understand they quit using the Coalinga range when some of them started coming down with Valley Fever.

I mostly compete in BPCR Silhouette now. One of the competitors is a retired Seal in his late 60's. I have never heard him talk about being a Seal.

 

[Frizzman]

I believe the silver Trident is for enlisted and the gold for officers. I live in a Navy town and the area I live in has lots of UDT/SEAL/Special Boat operators around here since Little Creek and Dam Neck are both here. My experience is that except for the obvious level of fitness and attitude one might observe you would never know who these guys are. I have never seen one boast or brag about their job. Anyone who does is probably a phoney in my opinion.
I served in the Navy. I was a Machinists Mate. I operated and worked on steam turbogenerators. It wasn't very exciting but a ship with no electrical power is useless. Anyone that has served should be proud of whatever they did and it is just sad that some need to make up such things to feel important.

 

[Bob R]

The silver Trident was for enlisted up until the 70's. At that time the silver Trident was abolished and every team member was awarded a Gold Trident. It is one of the few enlisted insignias that is gold.

A little insignia trivia,

The SEAL insignia is the only insignia in the United States government where the bald eagle is bowing his head. It represents the honor the US bestows to those willing and dedicated enough to persevere through the most difficult training in the world.

bob

 

[Careby]

When I was in boot camp at Great Lakes the swimming pool and water survival training were run by some tough old Seals. That must have been some boring duty for them.

I was stationed at Dam Neck just before the Seal Team moved in there. There was a pig farm next door I think by the name of Malbon Farms. When the breeze was right the whole base was blessed with their fragrance. Years later I was back there and the farm was gone but there was a new housing development called Malbon Acres. That was good for a laugh. I remember the EM club at Little Creek - the El Cocodrillo. Beer was cheap, not much else to say. I was a boomer sailor. As new Tridents were built, older missile subs had to be taken out of service due to SALT treaties. A couple of the older subs were re-purposed as Seal delivery vehicles. Instead of launching missiles from the missile tubes I guess they launched frogmen. They must have had a lot more "interesting" patrols than we did, making slow circles in the middle of the cold North Atlantic.

 

[jaysouth]

I tended bar for longer than I should have, but during those years I was amazed by how many heros came in. There were airborne rangers, green berets, SEALS, Delta operators, etc. Everyone of them a phony and liar.

The only one I ever bought a drink for was a vet who said he was a truck driver in VN. At last, an honest vet.

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

There is enough literature out there on SEALs, Force Recon, UDTs, snipers, Special Forces, etc. that if one is willing to do one's
homework, like an actor doing a character study or a reenactor or living historian doing a first person impression one can hold an audience and convince them you are the Real Thing.
Yes, it's amazing how out of the 3-4 million people who served in Vietnam, you never meet anyone who was a clerk, a cook, a mechanic, an armorer, a radio operator, a radar technician, etc., etc.

 

[billhud]

Originally posted by Bob R:
If I had a nickle for every SEAL I met at bars or at gunshows I would be rich.

Originally posted by jaysouth:
I tended bar for longer than I should have, but during those years I was amazed by how many heros came in. There were airborne rangers, green berets, SEALS, Delta operators, etc. Everyone of them a phony and liar.

There are about 1000 wannabes pretending to be a SEAL to every actual SEAL.

 

[d hepler]

The best way to find out if he was a seal is to kick him in the gonads and see what his response is. I haven't tried it because I am a retired Chief, and I think I can spot a bullshitter.

 

[29aholic]

Kinda off thread a tad, but I was sitting next to a guy in a bar one night who was going on about being a VN Vet (maybe to get free drinks?) anyway his story was pretty good up until he said he had been a door gunner on a Cobra. Well me and a couple biker buddies (they were Real Vets) called him out on it and before it was all over he admitted he was too young to even have been there.

 

[The Last Standing Knight]

Originally posted by billhud:

Originally posted by Bob R:
If I had a nickle for every SEAL I met at bars or at gunshows I would be rich.

Originally posted by jaysouth:
I tended bar for longer than I should have, but during those years I was amazed by how many heros came in. There were airborne rangers, green berets, SEALS, Delta operators, etc. Everyone of them a phony and liar.

There are about 1000 wannabes pretending to be a SEAL to every actual SEAL.

AMEN To that! Meet a lot of them, too.
Had real ones with us on our ship on a Westpac.
They were "deeds, not words." kind of guys. Their PT program put in in better shape than when I graduated MCRD San Diego.