NC legislature repeals pistol purchase law

[ladder13]

The procedure, up until today, to purchase a handgun was either you had a CHP or applied to, and obtained from, the Sheriff a PPP, pistol purchase permit. Very arbitrary by design was the PPP system.

One could not just go and buy a handgun without one or the other.

The NC legislature recently voted to repeal the PPP requirement. The Governor vetoed the bill as expected, even though the repeal was supported by the Sheriffs Association.

Today the governors veto was negated by the legislature. NICS is required unless you have a CHP which qualifies as a NICS.

Still need a CHP to carry concealed. NC is an OC state.



North Carolina ends pistol permit system

 

[Truckman]

That's good news for the Carolinans (if that's a word)...I'm of the opinion that the only permission I need to buy anything is my own discretion......Ben

 

[Chuck24]

That's good news for the Carolinans (if that's a word)...I'm of the opinion that the only permission I need to buy anything is my own discretion......Ben

Think it's Carolinian, you missed an "I"

 

[smithra_66]

Grrrrreat!

 

[AZgman]

Everyone should take some sort of CCW course in order to understand the laws and to understand what sort of situation they might be facing when deploying their weapon. Regular training is a must as well.

Far too many people buy a gun, stick it in a drawer or on a shelf and think it will protect them when the time comes. I know I am "preaching to the choir" here.

 

[AJ]

Buying a handgun was a pain in the rear when I was stationed in NC. Justed waited usually until someone needed money and bought from them.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

An interesting fact that is omitted here is that one county Sheriff abused the system. The thing was that if you bought a handgun at a retail establishment you went through NICS but if you bought a handgun from a third party/friend/whomever you needed the Sheriff's approval. One Sheriff made it very difficult, took way too long, etc. That caused a lot of comments to the legislature so they wrote a bill to eliminate the requirement to go through the Sheriff. Had this one Sheriff not been an anti-gun stick-in-the- mud this bill would never have been written in the first place.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

Buying a handgun was a pain in the rear when I was stationed in NC. Justed waited usually until someone needed money and bought from them.

I'm not sure when that was but the state's requirement was obviously either non-existent then or appropriately ignored.

 

[ladder13]

An interesting fact that is omitted here is that one county Sheriff abused the system. The thing was that if you bought a handgun at a retail establishment you went through NICS but if you bought a handgun from a third party/friend/whomever you needed the Sheriff's approval. One Sheriff made it very difficult, took way too long, etc. That caused a lot of comments to the legislature so they wrote a bill to eliminate the requirement to go through the Sheriff. Had this one Sheriff not been an anti-gun stick-in-the- mud this bill would never have been written in the first place.

…….WRONG….

 

[AJ]

I'm not sure when that was but the state's requirement was obviously either non-existent then or appropriately ignored.

It was in place, had several permits to purchase over a 20+ career. In our county you had to have a permit to buy before you could handle one. The later portion of your statement is correct.

 

[steelslaver]

It was in place, had several permits to purchase over a 20+ career. In our county you had to have a permit to buy before you could handle one. The later portion of your statement is correct.

The joke is that people they are trying to keep from having guns always do exactly that. Ignorant law.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

…….WRONG….

That came directly from a very high falutin' firearms discussion list run by one of the most well-known pro-firearms lawyers in the country. If it's wrong I'd like to see the rest of the story so I can reply back to that list with facts.

 

[ncairman]

As I live in NC, and used to buy permits years ago, I finally got tired of it and got my CHP. Glad to hear they finally did away with the permit system.

 

[fiasconva]

A lot of the local sheriffs had way too much power when it came to issuing those permits. My father-in-law was denied a permit because his local sheriff said he had enough guns already (1). And this was a man that he went through WWII with. I no longer live in NC but am just glad this archaic law is no more.

 

[BB57]

Buying a handgun was a pain in the rear when I was stationed in NC. Justed waited usually until someone needed money and bought from them.

NC allowed private sales of hand guns between state residents - but it still required the buyer to have a concealed handgun permit or a purchase permit.

If you want to delete your admission of guilt, I'll delete this post as well to eliminate the quote.

 

[AJ]

NC allowed private sales of hand guns between state residents - but it still required the buyer to have a concealed handgun permit or a purchase permit.

If you want to delete your admission of guilt, I'll delete this post as well to eliminate the quote.

This was 30-40 years ago. Statues of limitations probably applies.

 

[BB57]

An interesting fact that is omitted here is that one county Sheriff abused the system. The thing was that if you bought a handgun at a retail establishment you went through NICS but if you bought a handgun from a third party/friend/whomever you needed the Sheriff's approval. One Sheriff made it very difficult, took way too long, etc. That caused a lot of comments to the legislature so they wrote a bill to eliminate the requirement to go through the Sheriff. Had this one Sheriff not been an anti-gun stick-in-the- mud this bill would never have been written in the first place.

You needed a carry permit or a purchase permit either way.

But…that said some county Sheriff offices took a lot longer than others.

I won't go into the other factors that were sometimes considered by some Sheriffs as it would quickly get us into forbidden territory on this forum.

Let's just say there was wide support for the repeal of this law and that the governor is out of touch with a big portion of his base.

 

[Racer X]

I just came here to post about this. Any win, in any state, is a win for all of us.

Permit to buy handgun no longer required in North Carolina

 

[NCBeagle]

An interesting fact that is omitted here is that one county Sheriff abused the system. The thing was that if you bought a handgun at a retail establishment you went through NICS but if you bought a handgun from a third party/friend/whomever you needed the Sheriff's approval. One Sheriff made it very difficult, took way too long, etc. That caused a lot of comments to the legislature so they wrote a bill to eliminate the requirement to go through the Sheriff. Had this one Sheriff not been an anti-gun stick-in-the- mud this bill would never have been written in the first place.

That is not right. The previous North Carolina law required the transferee to have a concealed carry permit or pistol purchase permit (for FFL and personal sales). There was, of course, an exception for law enforcement and so on. The pistol purchase permit process was cumbersome, caused delay, and, frankly, was rooted in a racist policy that gave the local sheriff discretion over who could and who could not own a firearm. It simply serves no real purpose when you can do an instant NCIC check. A purchase permit was good for 5 years and a lot could happen in the interim.

I think you might be conflating the North Carolina purchase permit issue with Mecklenburg County North Carolina's concealed carry permit process. I am a Mecklenburg County resident. Also a lawyer. Our sheriff made a complete mess out of the permit process by requiring the VA hospital to provide medical records even for people with no military background or VA treatment history. VA cannot process inquiries timely. Other NC counties do not have this bogus requirement. It created a massive backlog (8000+ applications) and people waited almost a year for concealed carry permits. The sheriff did it purposefully because he is anti-gun. It triggered several lawsuits. I was a little bit closer to it than some others and even had an opportunity visit VA hospital and see with my own eyes the physical pile of backlog permit applications (medical releases). So, the problem with our sheriff dealt mainly with the concealed carry permit process. The Mecklenburg County pistol purchase permits, by contrast, only took a couple weeks. It is still too long and unacceptable but it is an entirely different issue than the pistol purchase permit issue.

This does little or nothing to fix Mecklenburg County's concealed carry permit problem. Totally separate issue.

 

[rblue]

It- the repeal- was long overdue. Most sheriff's found it to be a hassle and unnecessary burden.
I know in my county that the sheriff's office encouraged concealed permits so as to limit the need for issuing so many purchasing permits.
Naturally our "Governor" vetoed it but thankfully it was overturned.