Need a change?? Want a gun friendly place with 4-seasons and good economy?

I yearn for freedom.
I don't want to live in New York. I definitely don't want to die in New York.

I've long thought that I want to end up in Texas or Arizona, with TX getting the nod.
Your pictures of Arizona may have just created a tie. :cool:
 
eb07 said:
Why would I want to promote where I live? I don't want more people moving here ;)
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If folks on this forum were to come to the Prescott area I would welcome them gladly.....the more the merrier!

I like to be around "like-minded" people that's why I left the Seattle area.

Yes, I have some wonderful lifetime friends up there that I will miss hanging out and shooting with.
 
aphelion said:
There's a line in an Eagles song that goes something like 'Call it paradise and kiss it goodbye.' The Boise area is touted the same as you are doing for Prescott and people are flocking here. There is no upside to it. People will move in with their congestion but roads stay the samed two lanes, filling in the open spaces with their close-packed houses and strip malls. bringing in the urban attitudes and crime. Everything that made the area so desirable will go away. "Progress."
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The song is "The Last Resort", and that line is 110% true. Development screwed up Vegas and It is starting to do the same around Prescott. As I drove North towards I-40 through the Chino Valley I couldn't help but be depressed by the sight of large numbers of ugly, cookie cutter homes going up. Just like they did in Vegas.....
 
There are plenty of "Cookie Cutter" tract homes going in around the area for sure. But as I mentioned unless they find a new source for water there will eventually be a moratorium on building.

Of course we are riding the current housing bubble wave that has swept the southwest, but that too will come to an end.

The Seattle area that I left behind is gaining thousands of new residents per month so I don't consider the growth down here to be a big deal.

My......1.5 cents......
 
Water is the ultimate limit maker in most places out West.
Here in Albuquerque we are blocked N, S, and E by Indian and Gov land.
So West it is!
The City has finally started using owned upstream Water delivered by the Rio Grande.
Before that it was all local well pumped and the aquifer was going lower!
So even with the 'new' water there is a limit on how many folks can be served.
 
My favorite uncle moved to Wilhoit Az back in the early 90s, on hwy 89, first settlement you come to s of Prescott after you come down the mtn. About 15 miles and a world class motorcycle/sports car road. High desert climate that's about perfect, especially if arthritis is a problem.

I love it, last time I was there was nearly 15 years ago and Wilhoit was little more than a wide spot in the road and it hasn't changed much. Water was scarce but so were the bugs. I was there 3 different trips and never saw a mosquito. My aunt is a librarian in Prescott and has been for 20 years. She loves it and they love her. She was an accountant back in Indiana with good computer skills and the librarian gig was a perfect fit.

After Uncle Jim moved to Wilhoit, there was 3 more families of our original s Kentucky clan moved out there. Free spirits all.

Has anyone mentioned Jerome? It's an abandoned silver mine turned kinda artsy fartsy with some parts of buildings built literally overhanging the side of a mtn and the road has some amazing 180 switchbacks that are a trick to drive in a car. Can't imagine pulling a trailer or driving a large truck. :eek:

The Ruger ranch borders Wilhoit and seems like it goes on forever. I wonder how many thousands of acres it is? If you don't like crowds and want to get away from it all, that high desert area is a good jumping off spot. I like it that Az doesn't do the daylight savings time dance. I'm already dreading changing the clocks and losing an hour's sleep next w-end. :confused:

I'm glad to be able to visit but I'd still rather live in the Ohio River Valley around Louisville. Az would be a strong 2nd choice but Louisville/S Indiana is gun collector heaven with multiple gunshows most weekends. No stupid gun laws nor waiting periods nor permission slips nor monthly limits. Indiana has lifetime carry permits and pass the background check and walk out with your gun. In Kentucky, your carry permit serves as your background check. Pay your money, show your permit and hit the door. Can't be more gun friendly than that. :)
 
THREEDFLYER said:
...I'll take 277 days of sunshine any day over 300 days of clouds Like I had in the Seattle area.
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Most people probably think you're joking or exaggerating, but Seattle actually has approximately 200 days a year of rain, 95 days a year of cloudiness, and only 70 days a year of clear sunshine. That's one of the main reasons I moved over here to the dry, right, side of the state.

Spokane actually fits most of your description of Prescott pretty closely without going quite so far or quite so dry. 4 seasons, decent cost of living (compared to Seattle anyway), lots of game, but we have a LOT more lakes, rivers, etc.

I've spent some time down your way. My mom lives a bit farther south of you - about 40 miles from the US/Mexico border. It's a little too much of a desert climate for my taste.

BUT you'se guys move on down to Prescott - Spokane isn't someplace you guys ought to move to ;)
 
Been to Spokane & Post Falls many times, nice area for sure! Have also spent lots of vacations up in Kalispell, Whitefish and Glacier Park.....just too darn cold/snowy and long winters for my taste. Especially after living in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan for several years back in the 1980's.

There is one thing I do miss and that is the rivers and lakes.....not much fly-fishing going on since moving to the high desert!

But here's my over all plan.....as I get closer to retirement I am going to snag a small place up in Salmon, Idaho and hope to spend May through October up there and if I can afford it I will keep another small place here in the Prescott area for the winter months. Of course things could change at retirement age.....but a man has to have a dream!
 
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There are plenty of "Cookie Cutter" tract homes going in around the area for sure. But as I mentioned unless they find a new source for water there will eventually be a moratorium on building.
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I haven't lived in Central AZ my whole life....yet. Your optimism about a building moratorium is interesting. I cannot recall, ever, in this state, a lack of available water being a deterrent to rampant, speculative development.
On the Verde Valley side of the mountain, we are fighting tooth and nail to prevent Prescott from tapping the Big Chino Aquifer, which is the source of the Verde River and is in peril. We need our river, and so does Phoenix. The Salt River Project, which provides most of Phoenix's surface water, owns the rights to the Oak Creek-Verde River- Salt River watershed. When SRP starts throwing its weight around, Prescott's hopes to depend on the Big Chino will be dashed. I sincerely doubt that'll slow development very much, but one can hope.
 
Congratulations!

I love that area. My wife has family there, and if we were to move to AZ, that would be a top choice.

As an aside, I moved back here from Seattle twelve years ago. I was a frequent Wade's customer, too, and that was where I shot the S&W .500 for the first time!
 
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There are plenty of "Cookie Cutter" tract homes going in around the area for sure. But as I mentioned unless they find a new source for water there will eventually be a moratorium on building.

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It is amazing that it took millions of years for earth to develop with the water resources it has (lakes, rivers, oceans, etc.etc.etc.) and mankind in it's wisdom will deplete it in less than 2,000 years.

With the worldwide water shortages we will soon (next 100 years) drain the oceans and desalinate the water for human consumption. (already happening in some area's around the world). In the not to distant future wars will be fought over water and food supplies...

I will be long gone and will not see the destruction of the earth by it's own population but I will leave knowing it's gonna happen. :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
 
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There are plenty of "Cookie Cutter" tract homes going in around the area for sure. But as I mentioned unless they find a new source for water there will eventually be a moratorium on building.

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It is amazing that it took millions of years for earth to develop with the water resources it has (lakes, rivers, oceans, etc.etc.etc.) and mankind in it's wisdom will deplete it in less than 2,000 years.

With the worldwide water shortages we will soon (next 100 years) drain the oceans and desalinate the water for human consumption. (already happening in some area's around the world). In the not to distant future wars will be fought over water and food supplies...

I will be long gone and will not see the destruction of the earth by it's own population but I will leave knowing it's gonna happen. :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
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With all due respect, Bee Ess. Deserts have always been dry.

Wettest Feb in 135 years here in the Ohio Valley and the east coast is preparing for 2 ft of snow right now.

You are giving man way too much credit.
 
chaparrito said:
Your side of the mountain is indeed full of folks from all over. Just remember, if you move there, it's pronounced "press-kit", not "presk-ought". You'll be forever labeled as a noob if you say it the way you think it ought to be said.
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We always called it "press-cut" but that's closer than "presk-ought". I was a foreigner, I lived in SE AZ in the 60's-70's. We mostly spoke Mexican American Spanish.:D

I have a close relative from Ecuador who speaks Spanish and she just laughs at me.

We're moving to the SW in a few years when the real estate market here gets jacked thru the roof. Probably NM. I lived and worked in AZ for 10 years and I seen everything there is to see there. There are some pretty nice places there but like you say, you need to get out of the desert. Waters gone and it's getting hotter.
 
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eb07 said:
A meteor or Yellowstone will self correct the human problem eventuallly.
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Ain't that the truth. Yellowstone is a very large natural thermo-nuclear device with a timer on it. When Mt St Helens erupted I was 150 miles away and I felt the concussion.
 
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Water is the ultimate limit maker in most places out West.
Here in Albuquerque we are blocked N, S, and E by Indian and Gov land.
So West it is!
The City has finally started using owned upstream Water delivered by the Rio Grande.
Before that it was all local well pumped and the aquifer was going lower!
So even with the 'new' water there is a limit on how many folks can be served.
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The Salt River Valley (Phoenix) hit the wall a looooong time ago. They haven't stopped building there though. S. CA is the next great American desert.

One has to live there to really appreciate it. ;)
 
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I lived there for a while in the 90's and still get back on occasion. I have to recommend Bill's Trading Post for guns and ammo. A straight shooter who never took the opportunity to gouge the customer during tough times.
 
bigwheelzip said:
Having only lived there two years, your short term perspective is naturally glowing, and that's great. I moved to one of those AARP listed places when I retired eleven years ago, and it's become the fourth fastest growing metro region (6 percent annual growth) in the USA. The change is astonishing, and I hope "they" don't ruin it.
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I was going to say something like that but I'll just let you take the heat. The point person always takes the first hit. :D
 
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LostintheOzone said:
We always called it "press-cut" but that's closer than "presk-ought". I was a foreigner, I lived in SE AZ in the 60's-70's. We mostly spoke Mexican American Spanish.:D

I have a close relative from Ecuador who speaks Spanish and she just laughs at me.
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Try being a Mexican in Spain. I'm reliably informed that some of the vocabulary is entirely different.
 
My ex Santa Fe girlfriend - ok -
She fired me!
She can speak Spanish with anybody.
Once Down in Costa Rica , one rental car guy told the other one-
Be careful what you say around her - she speaks better Spanish than we do!
 
THREEDFLYER said:
It's funny after living in the megatropolis of the Seattle area I don't consider anything around the Prescott area to be congestion at all. Yes it could be an inconvenience heading down Highway 69 at times that's for sure but nothing like the back ups you get in the big city.
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I used to live in Seattle in the 70's. Moved to what they called the "east side" across the lake in 77. Lived there for 19 years. Moved out of the city in 95. When I moved to this island there were 5000 people here, now there are 12000 and the traffic is getting stupid. The boomers/retirees from Seattle discovered this place and the property values are going bananas. Our property assessment went up 50% this year. They do our assessment every two years so that's 25% a year. Lots of retirees escaping CA. and moving here because there is no state income tax on their retirement.

With internet anyone can evaluate a place to move. The problem is when a place gets *discovered* everyone moves there. The population in AZ is now 7M. The population in NM is now 2M and it's about the same size as AZ.
 
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rwsmith said:
You can take your love beads and tin foil hat to Sedona! Don't forget a device to detect the cosmic vibes that are there.
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The Sedona landscape is just awesome!
But you are so correct, the people and atmosphere there are a little different.
Even the McDonald's looks funny!
I'm sure it was meet the code or don't come here.
But drive on down the road -
Bam! You are in Cottonwood.
Appears to be a normal place.
No entry portals to other worlds.
Appears to have a lot of retirees.
 
With internet anyone can evaluate a place to move. The problem is when a place gets *discovered* everyone moves there. The population in AZ is now 7M. The population in NM is now 2M and it's about the same size as AZ.[/QUOTE]

Here in NM we have fantastic weather!
The scenery, sights, history, food are unparalleled.
There are negative factors in play.
 
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