Need advice, 442 or M&P 340, your thoughts..

[F75gunslinger]

9 ounces of savings? Waaaa? They was 6 ounces?

Um...HUH!?!

442 is 14.7 ounces

340 is 13.8 ounces

.9 ounce difference.

I left out the . my bad

 

[ABPOS]

Aaaaaah. I was just going to ask how much a 340 actually weighs. I think the better sights would be a good thing and the fact that they may be built tougher than a 442/642 would be a good thing. I wouldn't shoot .357's in it though. No way, no how. I wouldn't even want to try one.

eta: What I meant to say was, they "weigh" 6 ounces? Cuz 9 away from 15 is 6....... But like you said, you meant .9 not a whole 9.

 

[Old cop]

My 340PD weighs 11.5 oz. empty which is quite a difference from the 14.5 oz. 442, especially when pocket carried. Hope this helps.

 

[one eye joe]

My area shop has 442's for a really good price and also a used no lock M&P 340 in original box for around 600. I know they would take less for the 340 cause they have had it for awhile.

My question to you guys is what benefits the 340 would have over the 442 besides the obvious ones that i know like weight, night sights and 357 capable cause i could buy 2 442's for what the 340 cost. And yes, i would be carrying for off duty. Thanks in advance

THE M&P 340, HAS BEEN MASSAD AYOOB'S OFF DUTY AND BUG, FOR THE PAST DECADE, AND HE LOVES IT !

IMHO---TOPPING THAT TREMENDOUS ENDORSEMENT OFF WITH THE FACT THAT ITS A NO-LOCK, IN ITS ORIGINAL BOX, MAKES THIS CHOICE A NO-BRAINER.....

 

[ABPOS]

My 340PD weighs 11.5 oz. empty which is quite a difference from the 14.5 oz. 442, especially when pocket carried. Hope this helps.

Geeez, that's light. I wonder why there is 3oz difference between you and the other poster. I was thinking it was lighter than 13oz.

I don't even think I would like shooting wadcutters through that thing. Much less Plus P's.

 

[Eagle1*]

Just to clear up some miss information here guys. The M&P340 weighs .9 oz lighter than the 442. The 340PD weighs 3 ounces less than the 442 because it has the ti cylinder. I think there has been some confusion here,,, Want to make sure we are all on the same page.

Thanks for all of your replies as I went with the 442 for some money savings at the moment. Plus it shoot great for me with these Hogue blue lava grips on it. I am very happy with it. Now if I could get the trigger where I liked it, that would be great. However it shoots great for me so I am happy...

The below target was at 7 yards, 10 rounds of 130 grn UMC Remington.

 

[studenygreg]

Just to clear up some miss information here guys. The M&P340 weighs .9 oz lighter than the 442. The 340PD weighs 3 ounces less than the 442 because it has the ti cylinder. I think there has been some confusion here,,, Want to make sure we are all on the same page.

Thanks for all of your replies as I went with the 442 for some money savings at the moment. Plus it shoot great for me with these Hogue blue lava grips on it. I am very happy with it. Now if I could get the trigger where I liked it, that would be great. However it shoots great for me so I am happy...

The below target was at 7 yards, 10 rounds of 130 grn UMC Remington.

Try thr wilson combat trigger kit. Its cheap and works great. I have it in both my j frames and 686+.

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[GCF]

Thanks for all of your replies as I went with the 442 for some money savings at the moment. Plus it shoot great for me with these Hogue blue lava grips on it. I am very happy with it. Now if I could get the trigger where I liked it, that would be great. However it shoots great for me so I am happy...

Nice piece (like those Hogues!) - I am sure it will serve you well. Congrats on the acquisition!

Although some adamantly disagree, I personally think a spring kit (Brownells, Wilson, Apex, etc) is a great / inexpensive add on. Have one in both of my j frames - w/ no reliability issues.

My alloy 340 was much improved, by installing a Brownells kit, internal lubrication, & lightly polishing the rebound slide bearing surface. I DID NOT touch the hammer, sear, trigger, or internal frame surfaces.

It has also gotten noticeably better w/ use, & although quite acceptable at this point, still won't hold a candle - to my smooth as silk, early 640-1.

 

[Nevada Ed]

The weight of a weapon will change with the..........
style of grips that are put on the frame.

Many take the factory wood off and add a Hogue or other grip that
takes up the recoil a little better.

Later

 

[bubbatime]

My 340 has the scandium titanium alloy cylinder, and it weighs 11 ounces. The 442 weighs 15 ounces. That 4 ounces IS notable, for pocket carry. And for me, it was totally worth it to buy the more expensive gun, that weighs 4 ounces less. I did own a 642 and 442 for a time, and carried side by side, you really notice the difference compared to the 340. I much prefer the lighter gun. And to me, it was totally worth it to spend the extra money on the 340. A lifetime of pocket carry, you'll prefer the lighter gun.

The 340 is a purpose built gun, and it does what it was designed to do exceptionally, which is to be a reliable, ultra light weight pocket gun. Its not a good or fun shooter, its not a range gun, its a pocket gun.

I wouldn't waste my money on the fake 340. The one with the steel cylinder. Its barely lighter than a 442. Try to find a real 340 with the titanium cylinder.

 

[Eagle1*]

OK, you guys with the 340PD's what did you pay and does your have the IL? I ask because it seems an average NIB 340PD is 800.00. That is 500.00 more bucks than the 442 that I just bought... I am not against it, it just seems to me to be allot for a red sight, 4 ounces less and 357 capable which everyone tells me that they do not shoot the 357's in it due to the felt recoil. Am I missing something here, just wondering... I am not trying to be a jerk, just wondering if the extra expense is worth the ride???

 

[studenygreg]

I got my 340pd used for $600.

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[99bob]

OK, you guys with the 340PD's what did you pay and does your have the IL? I ask because it seems an average NIB 340PD is 800.00. That is 500.00 more bucks than the 442 that I just bought... I am not against it, it just seems to me to be allot for a red sight, 4 ounces less and 357 capable which everyone tells me that they do not shoot the 357's in it due to the felt recoil. Am I missing something here, just wondering... I am not trying to be a jerk, just wondering if the extra expense is worth the ride???

I'd like to know where one can get a NIB 442 for $300?? My 340PD get's .357 mags ran through it and very few .38s.....

 

[rich5674]

Just bought a 442 Performance Center $325

I'd like to know where one can get a NIB 442 for $300?? My 340PD get's .357 mags ran through it and very few .38s.....

Just bought a 442 Performance Center for $325 from Tanners in PA. Got the name from Gunbroker. Then I got a $30 gift card rebate from S&W. See my review of the pistol. I think another score is the 360J. On this, the frame is Aluminum/scandium alloy. The hammer pin is steel. It has a blast shield in the frame, replaceable front sight, 38 special. A improvement on the 442. I bought mine (360j) new couple years ago but they still available on GB. The 442 is tuned by the Performance Center and the trigger is significant lighter and smoother than the 442

 

[yep380]

Pretty sure grabagun has 442s for $319 right now. I picked up a no lock 442 for that price -$30 rebate this summer. The rebate was processed fast, which was nice.

WRT the OP: that's really up to you. If you think you'll ever want to shoot 357 out of a snubby, then that's your ticket. I find 38+p to be my upper limit for snappy recoil in a Jframe.

 

[629shooter]

OK, you guys with the 340PD's what did you pay and does your have the IL? I ask because it seems an average NIB 340PD is 800.00. That is 500.00 more bucks than the 442 that I just bought... I am not against it, it just seems to me to be allot for a red sight, 4 ounces less and 357 capable which everyone tells me that they do not shoot the 357's in it due to the felt recoil. Am I missing something here, just wondering... I am not trying to be a jerk, just wondering if the extra expense is worth the ride???

For me, the price difference was worth it. In my opinion, the one to buy is the M&P340. The sight picture allows me to get faster follow up shots, better accuracy, and a front night sight helps in low light conditions.

Both the 340PD and the M&P340 are available without the lock.





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[Eagle1*]

OK fellows, I have been looking at the 340 models (M&P and PD models) and there is really only about $100.00 difference in them if I buy a new one via prices on GB. Now that I have the 442, I still want a 340 model since I am really liking the darker color with picking up the sight quicker but the big dot would be even better for me on the M&P. I am trying to figure out which would be best. I really like the M&P model because it already comes with the front night sight and is really the same weight as a standard 442 meaning it would shoot basically the same as my standard gun. The PD model is lighter in weight and I would then have to put on a night sight to get it like the M&P which would cost me more money. I am leaning towards the M&P model with NO lock. I just cannot find one around my neck of the woods to try out or inspect. This gun buying thing is a sickness, I mean really. Places just done stock the really good stuff as I hate hate hate buying through the mail.... GRRRRRR

 

[studenygreg]

OK fellows, I have been looking at the 340 models (M&P and PD models) and there is really only about $100.00 difference in them if I buy a new one via prices on GB. Now that I have the 442, I still want a 340 model since I am really liking the darker color with picking up the sight quicker but the big dot would be even better for me on the M&P. I am trying to figure out which would be best. I really like the M&P model because it already comes with the front night sight and is really the same weight as a standard 442 meaning it would shoot basically the same as my standard gun. The PD model is lighter in weight and I would then have to put on a night sight to get it like the M&P which would cost me more money. I am leaning towards the M&P model with NO lock. I just cannot find one around my neck of the woods to try out or inspect. This gun buying thing is a sickness, I mean really. Places just done stock the really good stuff as I hate hate hate buying through the mail.... GRRRRRR

You can swap the front sight for a big dot or whatever on the 340. Its just a small pin holding it in. Easy peasy

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[Cal44]

I'd get the M&P 340 rather than the PD version.

And definitely no lock like you mentioned.

The extra weight isn't that much, and will actually make the gun handle better if you ever want to shoot 357 Magnum or even 38 Special +Ps.

The big advantage, IMO, is the steel cylinder. More durable than the Titanium used on the PD.

And the M&P is less money too.

As for finding one, you might try looking at Gallery of Guns.

In my area, last time I looked, they could provide one at any number of local NorCal gun shops, and at good prices. I don't know how long it would take to get my hands on it, but a buddy bought an LCR from them a while back and it came in a couple weeks.

 

[GCF]

The big advantage, IMO, is the steel cylinder. More durable than the Titanium used on the PD.

IonBond stainless steel cylinder - if I'm not mistaken.

Bought mine from Bud's. No charge shipping.