New 15 sport...looking for bipod and strap

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Will I have to make any mods to my 15 sport to mount a bipod on it?
What bipod is recommended?
What strap is recommended?

I don't really want anything more except for an optic of some sort. I need glasses to read and see the sights on my pistols. However, I'm great at a distance. The problem is I can either look at the target or look at the sights. What optic would you recommend? I will be target shooting out to 300 or so yards and will eventually hunt with this.

thanks
 
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People hate it when I do this, but I haven't angered anyone yet today so...

Will I have to make any mods to my 15 sport to mount a bipod on it?
Yes and no. There are a couple of bipods that mount by clamping on the barrel. This is usually a poor idea and will affect accuracy. Plus those are usually very flimsy devices. So, if you just have to have a bipod, and you want a decent one, a modification will have to be made.

What bipod is recommended?
I recommend no bipod. While there are some good ones out there, they are all less stable than a sand bag, tree, rock or backpack. They add unnecessary weight and if not used properly, will affect accuracy. One attached to a free float forearm is best. One attached to the barrel or drop in forearm will alter your zero. How much it alters it will vary depending on several factors.

Even so, if you just have to have one, look to Harris.

What strap is recommended?
I recommend no strap or sling. Unless you will be walking long distances, or have to carry it all day, the sling will only get in the way. They have a tendency to get caught on any protrusion whether in a house or out in the field. They get tangled with other guns as they are put in the safe. If not practiced with, they get caught on your body as you raise the gun to shoot.

However, if you just have to have one, I recommend the Magpul MS1. It's a little more expensive, but easily adapted to whatever conditions you'll be in. The MS3 is also good, but the MS1 is easier to adjust with one hand. Yes, I own both.

Resist the urge to get a single point sling. Unless you're clearing houses, they are not as comfortable as a two point sling. The two point sling spreads the weight out over your back more. The single point tends to put a lot of pressure on your neck. Yes, I have two of those and have used them in multi-day classes. Get a two point.

Again, it's better to have no sling.


The problem is I can either look at the target or look at the sights.
This is not a problem; look at the sights. Your focus should be a hard focus on the front sight. The target will be a little blurry.

If using magnified optics, the focus should be on the reticle. If it's a good optic, both the target and reticle will be in focus. If it's a lower quality and you have to choose between sharp focus on the reticle and the target, choose the reticle to be focused on.


What optic would you recommend? I will be target shooting out to 300 or so yards and will eventually hunt with this.

thanks
Ooooh, now I can really get spun up. :eek: I won't though. ;) I will say this, don't try to save money on the optic. If there's one place a little extra money will help you, it's the optic; even more than the rifle itself.

Now, before we can guide you properly, we need some more info. How will you use the gun the most? I know you said targets to 300 yards and hunting (eventually), but what distance and type of target will you shoot at the most? If you're looking for bench rest, smallest group possible, style of shooting, you'll need magnification. If speed of acquisition and short yardage (less than 100 yards) is the main use, then a red dot or HWS is better. So, think about it and tell us what the main use is and we'll help guide you in the right direction.
 
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Sling - Whatever two point sling that you can attach to your rifle.
Bipod - Harris SBRM

Optics- Either will accomodate your vision issue.

1x red dot is designed for the shooter to focus only on the target.
Budget - Primary Arms
Battle Worthy - Aimpoint

A decent magnified scope will have an eyepiece focus that will focus the crosshair for the shooters eye, and also a focus / parallax adjustment for the target. There are a lot of choices depending on your needs. If it is just for fair weather sunny day range shooting then there are a ton of choices under $300 with mount. If abuse and inclement weather are considerations then then you'll be in the $1k and up range.
 
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Following this post, but def thanks to Rastoff for the info as I was considering a sling and bipod as well! Needless now. Thanks for info!
 
If the gun might be required to fill a role beyond a range toy.... Aside from just assisting with carry, sliings allow you to carry a gun and still use your hands. Slings are used as a shooting aid to steady the gun. Bipods are easier to carry attached to the gun than sandbags in your pockets (sarcasm).
 
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People hate it when I do this, but I haven't angered anyone yet today so...

Actually, yours is one of the more sensible posts/replies to one of those What-Do-I-Need questions that I've read today.
 
Great responses and much appreciated. I will initially shoot closer in, say up to 100 yards. This will be a range toy until I actually decide to go hunt with it. I just don't want to buy things twice, if you know what I mean. I can't afford that. Buy the right tool the first time. This is my very first rifle of any kind.

Thanks again.
 
Great responses and much appreciated. I will initially shoot closer in, say up to 100 yards. This will be a range toy until I actually decide to go hunt with it. I just don't want to buy things twice, if you know what I mean. I can't afford that. Buy the right tool the first time. This is my very first rifle of any kind.

Thanks again.

If this is your first rifle, you should only be concerned with buying ammo and range time then.

Buying tactical doo dads and add ons without shooting and learning about the rifle is how you end up buying twice.
 
Blue force gear makes great double point attached slings that have a tab for instant adjustment.

No bipods unless you plan on laying down a lot of suppressive fire
 
I bought my M&P for a range toy mainly with a few days of deer hunting a year mixed in. I bought a Blackhawk bipod for the range because they have wood blocks with carpet on uneven benches. It was around $40 at Walmart and works very well, no complaints after 500rds or so with it.

I just bought a blackhawk universal tactical 1.25" sling (2 point) tonight for $10.50 at gander mountain (price said $44 on shelf but rang up $10.50 with tax). Should work fine for a few days of carrying around the woods.
 
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