NEW 45 ACP AMMOxxxx UPDATE ON TEST

[4barrel]

117 grain rated at 1450 fps. It looks like it would hurt. Breaks up into 3 pieces. DID THE TEST YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.

 

[chief38]

Not that I am against new technology as it applies to ammo, but 117 grain is ridiculously lightweight for a .45 acp projectile IMHO. Personally what I truly like about the 45cp is the massive weight of 230 grains. I'll pass......

 

[luvsmiths]

Another "snake-oil" round.

I also don't like lightweight. Can't hold the momentum when it hits, for one.

Anybody remember "Glaser safety Slugs" ? They were going to revolutionize ammo!

Snake. Oil.

 

[reddog81]

So it's like getting hit with 3 .22 LR rounds at once? Weird.

 

[chief38]

Just bare in mind...... in these tough times there are those who will strictly jump on the band wagon to make money. I am not holding that against them as I am a Capitalist - but it's up to the buyers to know what is snake oil and what is the real deal. Caveat Emptor (buyer beware).

 

[Telecaster]

I see a Paul Harrell video in the future...

 

[Rammer Jammer]

Looks like a gimmick to me.

 

[elpac3]

Self defense ammo will generally be a seven yard shot or less so velocity drop and mass energy should not be a huge factor.

I think if it does separate into multiple projectiles you are not going to worry about an through and through with an exit wound to worry about colateral targets.

IIRC, glasser safety slugs were developed for the sky marshalls with the idea of preventing cabin wall / aircraft skin penetrations with the goal of preventing depressurization events in case of a miss or a through and through GSW.

 

[JohnK]

Quik-Shok was rated ABOVE all others, in a LOT of tests.

This ammo was available in .22 rimfire, and most all centerfire ammo. Didn't fly well, and don't know where to find it know.

 

[cmj8591]

The box says it's the first intelligent bullet. Are you sure that it weighs 117 grains and that's not it's IQ?

Edit: After looking at the box I see the "IQ" under "117 grain". That should make it smart enough to tell you to go buy some good, 230 grain JHP for your defense load and put that box of intelligent bullets in your cartridge collection.

 

[clang444]

This looks like it will impress the folks that buy Governors and load them up with .410 buckshot...

 

[Dave Lively]

Regardless of how it performs on the target I am always wary of ammo that uses unusually light or heavy bullets. Same goes for ammo that is loaded super hot. I have seen normally reliable semi-auto handguns choke on ammo like that too often to trust it.

 

[cmansguns]

Snake oil????

What's with all tyhe talk about "snake-oil". I've heard about it for years, and I mean years....from my Dad and others even older than him....so.....is real snake-oil some kind of super lube for "stuff".

There seems to be a lot of Members talking about it here on the Forum, yet I have to go look at gun auctions on the big auction sites to actually see it described, and it is usually packaged with some kind of gun from the descriptions.

Do you guys get it from milking the snake like getting anti venom?

Inquiring minds want to know.

By the way....I have sold some used cars, and I have been known to wear brown wingtip shoes with a blue suit although many, many years ago, and I was an expert on snake-oil (or so I used to think)

 

[rockquarry]

Who first mentioned "snake oil" in this thread? That person has all the insight anyone needs into such gimcrackery...

 

[IAM Rand]

Again, who are these bad guys that complain about the old ammo?!?

 

[ISCS Yoda]

Anybody remember "Glaser safety Slugs" ? They were going to revolutionize ammo!

I seem to recall a very late James Bond novel wherein our hero uses Glaser safety slugs. BICBW

Jokes aside:

Snake oil is a term used to describe deceptive marketing, health care fraud, or a scam. Similarly, "snake oil salesman" is a common expression used to describe someone who sells, promotes, or is a general proponent of some valueless or fraudulent cure, remedy, or solution.[1] The term comes from the "snake oil" that used to be sold as a cure-all elixir for many kinds of physiological problems. Many 19th-century United States and 18th-century European entrepreneurs advertised and sold mineral oil (often mixed with various active and inactive household herbs, spices, drugs, and compounds, but containing no snake-derived substances whatsoever) as "snake oil liniment", making claims about its efficacy as a panacea. Patent medicines that claimed to be a panacea were extremely common from the 18th century until the 20th, particularly among vendors masking addictive drugs such as cocaine, amphetamine, alcohol and opium-based concoctions or elixirs, to be sold at medicine shows as medication or products promoting health.

You can all of the details here:

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[Greyman50]

Ha, about as good as the " Quad Loads" way back. BTW, Shot a dog that was acting "mad" with a glasser safety slug, DRT. Kids were young and had goats that were afraid of strange dogs, all playing in yard. Closest neighbor was 1/4 mile away.

 

[TX-Dennis]

 

[Green Frog]

My question is whether that light a bullet would generate sufficient recoil impulse to cycle the slide. Remember, the recoil is a function of mass and acceleration. Would you have to use a really light recoil spring?.

Froggie

 

[Univibe]

Throw trick ammo in the trash; get some real bullets.