NEW 45 ACP AMMOxxxx UPDATE ON TEST

[luvsmiths]

For those who equate "snake oil" with Glaser Safety Slugs, maybe you need to rethink that. Glaser Safety Slugs were designed for ONE thing. They were designed for the Sky Marshall program to give them a round which wouldn't penetrate the skin of an aircraft but would be a deadly round if needed on board an aircraft where people were not wearing body armor and high penetration was not needed. I don't believe anyone associated with the company ever said it would revolutionize ammunition. They do have a deadly track record of kills. They are still made by the Corbon folks and are available in 45ACP and 9mm. They do work for what they were designed for. All the original James Bond books, written by Ian Fleming were published long before Glaser's were developed. They were never intended for self defense ammo to be carried on the street. The 45ACP Glaser was 147 grains which is a lot more than the round which sparked this conversation.

If one's need is for a killing round in confined spaces where overpenetration is undesireable then a Glaser is a top choice. Otherwise, don't waste your money.

How come the "Sky Marshalls" don't use Glaser safety junk slugs today? They found these new snake oil junk rounds instead?

sigh.

 

[STORMINORMAN]

Went into storage looking at some older, supposedly "new, hi-tech" (or, snakeoil, if you prefer) ammo from way back...

357 Magnum CORBON, Gold Dot (circa 1991), NYCLAD, etc.

All looked good: I would trust them. Just don't need (want?) to just shoot'em up: I may actually NEED them, someday...?

Cheers!

 

[Nevada Ed]

"So.....the manufacturer was marked on the box: South of the border."

Well that does not make it a bad company.
I have used a lot of Aquila & Magtech ammo that is very reliable.....
at least in my weapons.

 

[4barrel]

I didn't overdo the the test. I filled a wd40 can and a cat litter container with water and put the wd40 can in the rear. One shot was all I fired. I did this with my Kimber. I am not sure this 115 grain <aluminum?> bullet should be on the market. I shot from about 15 feet away and the recoil was the normal 45acp kick. The bullet hit good and water squirted but not an impressive shower like a 44 mag. Not a lot of movement. I walked up to look at the hole in the can and there was none and still full of water. There was no hole in back of the litter cont. but it was split in 4 different places. You can see the dent from the bullet in the rear middle of the plastic and all 3 pieces of the hp bullet around the edges. The base of the bullet is on the plastic lid and was in the container. At 1450 fps I think a person may bleed to death with one shot. I was going to bench some at 25y but saw no need. The base of the bullet is what you see on the lid with a piece of the blue plastic in it.

 

[jimbo728]

Interesting test. No over penetration.
Jim

 

[Heinz]

Amazing. It converts a .45 ACP into 3 .22 long rifles (maybe shorts, you would have to do the test.)

"no over penetration". Almost no penetration at all, but in fairness, I do not know what the water in the kitty litter container bled off the rounds.

 

[old tanker]

...preventing depressurization events in case of a miss or a through and through GSW...

This is ONE of the outflow valves on an Airbus 320. It would close almost immeasurably to compensate for the air leaked by .452 diameter hole. An aircraft pressurization system is constantly pumping air through the cabin. If there were not controlled leaks letting air out as fast as it was coming in the cabin would blow up like a balloon.

It's not as much fun as seeing Goldfinger getting sucked out the window of a Lockheed Jetstar, but unless the bullet hits something important in a controls system, wiring harness, merely poking an air leak is not going to do it.

You need a corrosion fatigue failure like Aloha Airlines Flight 243 for that.

 

[chief38]

Thanks for the testing and the follow up - but I'll stick to the heavyweights when it comes to 45acp.