New 9mm 2.0 double feeds

Is this much ado about nothing, or should I be concerned?

Thanks, guys.
Not even much ado. It's really nothing. This is one isolated problem that one guy is having. It's extremely rare to hear of issues with the M&P especially the 2.0 edition.

The EZ has had some flack, but that's also a unique problem.
 
I understand how slide velocity can cause a malfunction. (Usually, failure to feed.) But how does the slide pick up the second round in the mag before the first clears the mag lips?

It happens when the first round does clear the feed lips. It basically starts to feed itself into the chamber as the slide recoils. That's one option for the round. Another option is to remove itself from the pistol through the ejection port as is apparently experienced by the military with the new Sig MHS gun (M17? - I can't remember).
 
It happens when the first round does clear the feed lips. It basically starts to feed itself into the chamber as the slide recoils. That's one option for the round. Another option is to remove itself from the pistol through the ejection port as is apparently experienced by the military with the new Sig MHS gun (M17? - I can't remember).

I'm trying to see this. The slide is recoiling to the rear so how does the round go forward into the chamber?
 
In the case of an inertial feed that presents as a double feed, the pistol recoils to the rear with fast slide velocity, causing the top round in the magazine to Move forward in the magazine as the pistol is moving rearward. Think glasses on a table as the table cloth is pulled away. If the round moves forward enough it can begin to chamber while the slide picks up the second round (if it has the opportunity to rise to be contacted by the feed rib, which it often does not)... this looks like a double feed, and I suppose it sorta is, but it's more accurately described and diagnosed as an inertial feed.


Used to see this with 1911s chambered in .40 S&W. Slide went too fast; inertial feed happens; loose live round either jams as a double feed, or it follows the empty case out the ejection port.

That, and other reasons, is why you don't see any more 1911s in .40.
 
I've had great luck with s&w customer service. Always great. I'll add my 2.0 has been flawless. Countless rounds. Not one malfunction. I've had trouble with Winchester ammo before though and haven't bought any in years. Not that it's what is causing your problems. I'd bet the extractor is your problem.
 
I shoot a LOT of WWB from Walmart, 115 gr and 124 gr, never had an issue.

If you're confident you're cleaning it good and not limp writing, I'd definitely call S&W
 
I'll call S&W, but I'd really like to try some different ammo and see. I thought the Win NATO would be an upgrade over the WWB. Maybe not???

My shield works fine with all ammo except underpowered PPU stuff. My carry ammo is Q4318 NATO. It has a bit of extra pop to ensure reliable cycling.
 
My M&P9 2.0 was due to arrive in Springfield on Thursday afternoon. Back at the range today with my PPS M2. The Walther has also had a diet of the same WWB 115, Win NATO 124, and Remington UMC 115 jhp's. No failures of any kind on the Walther in approximately 300 rounds.
 
Just signed up for a defensive handgun class on March 9, exactly 4 weeks and two days after my M&P arrived at S&W. I'm hoping it will be back in time to use at the class. I'll pick up an OWB holster in the meantime and hope it works out. Other wise, I'll use my Glock 22.
 
Update:

Just spoke with S&W customer service. I was told my pistol went into the gunsmith shop on Tuesday of last week and that the extractor had been replaced.
 
Talked to CS again Friday. They said the gun had been test fired and is due to ship on Tuesday. I should have it back Thursday of next week. So, I'll get it back in time to try it out next weekend, and then take to the defensive handgun class the following weekend. Now, I need to buy an extra magazine, a double mag pouch, and an owb holster. Plus another 500 rounds for the class.
 
Smith & Wesson has always been stellar when it comes to Customer Service. I am reading posts on other sites where SiG as of late, has not been so stellar. My Shield v2.0 is replacing my G43 for EDC. So far it eats everything that I have thrown at it including 147gr hollow points. I do not need a 3.6" v2.0 because I have that covered with my G26, but the darn thing keeps calling to me. LOL
 
Dbl feed

They are correct on Fed Ex ,just has to ship to a business and not an individual,it goes 2nd day
 
Look closely at the picture in the original post. I don't see a firing pin indentation in the chambered rounds primer. It's a live round.

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Look closely at the picture in the original post. I don't see a firing pin indentation in the chambered rounds primer. It's a live round.

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I think the pic youre talking about was an example posted by RASTOFF
 
Update: M&P9 2.0 arrived back from S&W on Thursday. As noted in a previous post, the extractor was replaced.

Just went to the range today to test it out. I also picked up a 3rd mag, mag pouch, and holster for a class I'm taking next week. And tried them all out with the pistol to function test and practice with everything.

Ran 100 rounds of the WWB 115 grain with no issues.
 
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