Bought my fathers original 586 from him recently. Upon doing some research I have found there was a recall due to high pressure .357 ammo causing cylinder binding. My father has never sent it in for the modification and I am fine shooting .38 special only for the occasional target practice. The gun is nickel plated. Question is, will it be worth more unaltered 30 years down the road because of the rarity of it being unaltered, or will it not make a difference and I should send it in. Safety aside, talking about your thoughts on value.
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lhump1961
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Since you are shooting the gun I don't think the value changes much with or without the "M" stamp. If it was NIB/unfired maybe a different story. Some folk won't want the trouble of sending it in for the mod while others don't mind. Not all 586/686 guns had any trouble...I have a 586 no dash that shoots everything fine while my 686-1 needed the mod. Both are great guns.
Shoot it, enjoy it, take care of it and the value will remain. They aren't made like that any more.
Shoot it, enjoy it, take care of it and the value will remain. They aren't made like that any more.
Welcome to the forum.
Before we get to far ahead of ourselves, swing the cylinder open and look at the number stamped in the yoke. If it's just a 586 with nothing after it and there's also no "M" stamped near it then it's game on. However, if it's stamped 586-1 or above then the mod was incorporated at the time of build. Again, welcome and good shooting.
Before we get to far ahead of ourselves, swing the cylinder open and look at the number stamped in the yoke. If it's just a 586 with nothing after it and there's also no "M" stamped near it then it's game on. However, if it's stamped 586-1 or above then the mod was incorporated at the time of build. Again, welcome and good shooting.
Welcome to the forum. You found the right place to hang out. I have read on this forum that there are varying degrees of workmanship when S&W repairs these bushings. I would hope that the more they do, the better they got. It was an aesthetic issue, not anything else. Tool marks etc in and around the repair area. To me, it would be no big deal. The important thing is that the gun needs to perform safely and reliably with all factory loaded ammo...38 and .357. As to the effects on value, I would say a discerning individual would still pay the going rate. After all, this mod was done by S&W.
One of the great pleasures of the L-frame revolvers is how well balanced they are with the .357 cartridge. Maybe shoot a bunch of .357s out of her and if all is well leave it alone. Otherwise, send her in for a slight makeover.
Congrats on owning a very nice revolver and we like pics here also.
One of the great pleasures of the L-frame revolvers is how well balanced they are with the .357 cartridge. Maybe shoot a bunch of .357s out of her and if all is well leave it alone. Otherwise, send her in for a slight makeover.
Congrats on owning a very nice revolver and we like pics here also.
The problem existed enough for S&W to issue a recall but the fact remains it was a relativily small amount of the no dash revolvers that had the problem. So I agree with the others about shooting it to see if you even has a problem. As far as value some folks would pay more for the gun that was repaired because in their mind the problem is solved
and they wouldn't have to deal with it.
and they wouldn't have to deal with it.
Welcome from the panhandle of West Virginia. If you're just shooting .38 special, don't worry about it, shoot and enjoy.
texagun
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I think the gun would be more desirable with the modification. I recently sent in a 586 no-dash after talking with S&W on the phone. They sent me an address label and after sending it in the gun was back in my hands in 10 days with a new hammer nose and hammer nose bushing in excellent condition. No problems at all and it didn't cost me a cent. Pretty good customer service if you ask me. And I don't have to worry about the cylinder locking up in the future with .357 Mag loads. The mod is well worth it in my opinion.
The condition was caused only by using light weight (125 gr.) +P rounds, where the excessive recoil slammed the case head back against the hammer nose bushing which (if it was oversized) let the primer edge flow around the hammer nose (firing pin) and into the hammer nose bushing hole. This caused a raised bump on the primer and if you shot more than two or three would drag on the recoil shield so much it would tie the gun up. Not all guns had an oversize bushing port, so you may not need the fix. Try to shoot a cylinder-full of +P 125's and see what happens. If it binds up have it fixed.
Welcome aboard from WI! This is best place to learn and share all things Smith & Wesson!
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Thanks for the info
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I did send my 1980's vintage back for the M Mod. a long time ago but quite frankly I never had a problem with it prior to sending it in. Just did it I suppose.........
Thank you for the insight.
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Have the modification done. It will not harm resale value, in my opinion, and will make it more attractive to any future buyer because a future buyer will not have to send it to S&W.
Ooops, forgot about those models. Thanks Mac.
The only reason I know this is because I was lucky enough to find a 581 no dash.
I have only shoot my 38 reloads without a problem. It is the only Smith that I have without the lock. It is also the tightest and best one I have.
