New Life For An Old Model 52-2

Rick H.

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About 2 months ago I sent my second model 52-2 to Clark Custom Guns to have one of their new made barrels and bushings installed in it. I had them install one of their barrels on another 52-2 that I own a few years prior and was very happy with the results. I was on the fence about sending them the second pistol because it is pretty much a safe queen and rarely gets put to use, but when I found out their stock of Model 52 barrels was getting low I convinced myself to send the second pistol in.

Well I just received the second pistol back from them and it turned out just as well done as the first. I shot the second pistol yesterday and it functioned flawlessly save for a magazine problem with one mag. No problem with the pistol, just the darn mag. I am not sure what the accuracy of the newly returned pistol is yet as I wasn't shooting for real accuracy, just function. Once again the real surprise came when cleaning the barrel after shooting 70 rounds. It cleans up in just minutes compared to the old OEM barrel which took forever to clean properly.

You have to really like your Model 52 to have a barrel and bushing installed by Clark, but the reality is they only have a limited number of barrels left and the price isn't a cheap date. I asked the gunsmith that did mine how many barrels they had left and he said less than a dozen out of 250 they made originally. He did say the feeling at Clark was there will be no more Model 52 barrels made as the demand for them has dropped way down. I found that bit of information rather surprising, but what do I know.

In the end I am happy I had my last two Model 52 barrels replaced with the Clark units. The rifling twist rate is different than the OEM twist rate and I am not that good of a shot anymore to tell if there is much of an improvement over the OEM barrels. I do know that cleanup time is greatly reduced with the new barrels. Even the empty brass cases come out of the Clark barrels much straighter and not looking like a washboard before re-sizing.

Just for the record, I am in no way connected to Clark Custom Guns and get nothing for my thoughts on their work. In fact it would appear they are doing more rifle work these days than pistol work. I admit to having a love affair with the Model 52 pistols and find them to be the most fun and rewarding pistols I own. They were made at a time when true craftsmanship was the norm at Smith and Wesson. Every now and then I give thought to retiring them from service, but I just can't do that. They were meant to be used and I use mine. I rarely make recommendations cuz it can come back to bite you, but if you have thoughts of getting a Clark barrel for your Model 52 fear not, I am very pleased with mine.

Rick H.
 
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Well, I am conflicted. On one hand, it's basically been proven that for amazing as these pistols are, S&W really kind of failed with the rifling twist rate. The late Jerry Keefer was a proponent of a different twist rate in the 52 pistol. These guns are very accurate at 25 yards and they tend to keyhole at longer distances due to yaw on the bullet as it's not stabilized as well as it would be with a proper twist rate.

I believe that the Clark barrel is an upgrade for that.

As for the things you described, I simply don't have that problem and I'm not sure why you have, and with multiple different examples of the Model 52.

I regularly shoot two different 52's from two quite different times periods and my bores give me zero trouble.

I'm shooting a 52-1 that dates to 1968 or 1969, and I also shoot a 52-2 that is legitimately one of the last few they ever made, it wears a TZT-serial prefix.

My shooting sessions with these pistols are like this every time:

1) pull the slide from the frame the night before, wipe out the lube, re-lube. I am using FP-10

2) range day will almost always see 50, 100 or 150 rounds. Never less, rarely more

3) gun comes home, field strip, wipe out the carbon and goo. Q-tip in the frame rails with Hoppe's #9. Wipe down. Re-lube with FP-10

4) no scrubbing of the bore. No brush, no dry scrap, no solvent, no oil, no patches, nothing down the bore. Nothing.

5) back in to the safe, repeat at #1 the night before range day

Bullets I am using include MANY decades old Star HBWC, modern Hornady HBWC and some Precision Delta HBWC.

No plated
No jacketed
No cast
No coated

Just swaged 148 grain HBWC. All are powered by 2.7gr Alliant Bullseye.

I'm sure I have swabbed bores... but it's been years and thousands of rounds ago.

I just pulled both of these out of the safe and illuminated the bore and looked at them. They look great to me.

Sure, I would get some filth out if I ran a patch down there. There is a lot of fire and brimstone that happens with each "bang", but it's not changing my accuracy or function and my bore is not rotting from the inside out.
Even the empty brass cases come out of the Clark barrels much straighter and not looking like a washboard before re-sizing.
?! What on Earth?!

This has never happened in any of the four examples of the 52 that I have owned and shot. Haven't seen in my #1 Shooting buddy's three examples. Another buddy with his two 52's, never. And old friend with his one 52, also never seen this.

I've not even heard of this. I can't say I've seen this happen in any handgun that I own. Perhaps I misunderstand what you're describing here.

Back to the Clark barrel and bushing...
I am an enthusiast so certainly, this interests me. But I am also frugal. You haven't actually shared a number, you just hinted that it's expensive.
 
So, to answer a few further questions. The price from Clark for the barrel, bushing and shipping two ways came out to $603.00. Like I said, not a cheap upgrade, but worth it in my book for both my remaining Model 52's. If you desire you can buy the parts and install them yourself. I didn't want to chance that so I had Clark install them.

The twist rate is different on the Clark barrels but I don't recall their twist rate at the moment. I can't comment on other barrels that people own in regards to how easily they clean or how their fired brass looks, I can only comment on mine from having several different Model 52's. My fired brass cases always looked like **** until I sized them and returned them to a straight configuration. A few of my Model 52's had relatively decent looking empties straight out of the pistol but not my two remaining pistols. Maybe I was just unlucky in that regard.

Now to the leading issue. I only use Hornady lead W/C bullets in all my wadcutter loads. I have tried all the magic coatings for these bullets, but universally I end up with lead deposits in my barrels. When this really became apparent to me was after I purchased a Hawkeye bore scope and REALLY examined my barrels. On the first 52 I sent to Clark I discovered a literal ring of lead at the end of the chamber where it meets the rifling. I never noticed that ring with the naked eye, but it was there none-the-less. It took a lot of elbow grease but I was able to remove that lead deposit and what I found under it was a shock. The metal had literally pitted under the lead completely around the barrel. Shooting the pistol only filled up the pits and created another ring of lead. I have my own idea as to why this corrosion took place, but it is only an assumption and I'll leave it go at that.

I have a couple of spare new OEM barrels, but I decided to give the Clark barrel a try. As stated I was happy with the results and decided to give my other M52 the same treatment and was happy with that result also so far. I have only shot the second M52 once and wasn't necessarily interested in accuracy per se, just function. It worked well save for one magazine that is giving me some grief.

I took the pistol to the range yesterday for some more break-in and nearing the end of my ammunition supply thought I would put my last three rounds down range in a supported position just to see the results. I laid on top of my pistol case at 10 yards and fired three shots which were all touching. Not a perfect representation of how well this pistol can shoot, but it will have to do for now until I can get to an outdoor range. Unfortunately, it is about "0" degrees out so going outside isn't going to happen for a while. Although I never shoot at 50 yards with an open sight pistol anymore I will try both my M52's at 50 yards and see if I see any evidence of key holing. At my age 50 yards with an iron sighted pistol is a long ways.

The bottom line is this, I really don't care if anyone thinks getting a Clark barrel is a waste of money or not. I bought two of them and I am pleased with the results. I had leading issues including one that resulted in a pitted barrel probably from a previous owner who never truly cleaned the barrel. My only fault there was I didn't really examine the barrel with my bore scope before buying the pistol. If you are happy with what you currently have then move along and pay no heed to this info. If you think you might be interested in getting a new Clark barrel go for it. Just be advised their supply is getting low and they won't be obtaining any more. And yes, you do get your old parts back almost without asking, but I asked for the old parts back in both work orders. Never know, someone one day may really need a barrel and I can sell him my old pitted one or a new OEM one.

Rick H.
 
Oh to be clear, I definitely appreciate your bringing this discussion up, and I am surely not hating on the idea of the Clark barrel upgrade, I was just genuinely concerned at all the trouble you’ve been experiencing with the stock OEM pistol and original barrel.

I will admit that if I owned or used a bore scope I might also find frightful things, maybe ignorance is bliss. With my older 52-1, it’s shooting wonderfully for a 55-year old so I can’t imagine worrying about what might be in the bore as it looks fine to my naked eye.

I still can’t wrap my head around what’s happening to your brass.
 
I didn't realize Clark was still in business. I've heard conflicting stories.


My first ever wadcutter .45 was a Clark that Jim built. Probably in the mid 80's.
 
About 2 months ago I sent my second model 52-2 to Clark Custom Guns to have one of their new made barrels and bushings installed in it. I had them install one of their barrels on another 52-2 that I own a few years prior and was very happy with the results. I was on the fence about sending them the second pistol because it is pretty much a safe queen and rarely gets put to use, but when I found out their stock of Model 52 barrels was getting low I convinced myself to send the second pistol in.

Well I just received the second pistol back from them and it turned out just as well done as the first. I shot the second pistol yesterday and it functioned flawlessly save for a magazine problem with one mag. No problem with the pistol, just the darn mag. I am not sure what the accuracy of the newly returned pistol is yet as I wasn't shooting for real accuracy, just function. Once again the real surprise came when cleaning the barrel after shooting 70 rounds. It cleans up in just minutes compared to the old OEM barrel which took forever to clean properly.

You have to really like your Model 52 to have a barrel and bushing installed by Clark, but the reality is they only have a limited number of barrels left and the price isn't a cheap date. I asked the gunsmith that did mine how many barrels they had left and he said less than a dozen out of 250 they made originally. He did say the feeling at Clark was there will be no more Model 52 barrels made as the demand for them has dropped way down. I found that bit of information rather surprising, but what do I know.

In the end I am happy I had my last two Model 52 barrels replaced with the Clark units. The rifling twist rate is different than the OEM twist rate and I am not that good of a shot anymore to tell if there is much of an improvement over the OEM barrels. I do know that cleanup time is greatly reduced with the new barrels. Even the empty brass cases come out of the Clark barrels much straighter and not looking like a washboard before re-sizing.

Just for the record, I am in no way connected to Clark Custom Guns and get nothing for my thoughts on their work. In fact it would appear they are doing more rifle work these days than pistol work. I admit to having a love affair with the Model 52 pistols and find them to be the most fun and rewarding pistols I own. They were made at a time when true craftsmanship was the norm at Smith and Wesson. Every now and then I give thought to retiring them from service, but I just can't do that. They were meant to be used and I use mine. I rarely make recommendations cuz it can come back to bite you, but if you have thoughts of getting a Clark barrel for your Model 52 fear not, I am very pleased with mine.

Rick H.
It's sad we don't have gunsmiths of that caliber that I'm aware of here in the Land down Under, (Australia )what a shame 😎😏
 
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