New M&P 22.... AWESOME!!
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FLY FIS
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I looked at getting a couple of different 22's for target shooting. I have a M&P 45 and a Shield 9 mm. The M&P 22 seemed like the right fit for saving some money and still staying with the M&P line of weapons. I find that shooting the M&P 22 and then changing to either of the others is like putting on identical pairs of gloves. The shield is a little smaller in hand and the 45 is heavier, but not creating any problem what so ever. I will get another set of sights for the 22, or at least the rear. Other than that, life is good
Bengal07
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I use a Bushnell small caliber boresighter---sort of looks like an icepick. I have been using it for a few years on my .22 and .17 rifles and my S&W 22A1 target pistol. Real simple to do and if done carefully will put you within about an 2 inch at 50 feet when you fire your first rounds. You can pick one up for less than $30. It comes with various adapters but I only use the smallest ones. Too long an arm to work on snub nose barrels. Can't get more accurate because dot size at 50 feet is larger than many think.
Just put into the barrel securely--turn red dot on-----aim at flat surface about 50 feet away-----look at 6 o'clock center sight picture--note where dot is and then drift adjust sights---as needed. Do it at least 3 times to doublecheck
You cannot adjust elevation unless you have rear adjust sights----It was not necessary to adjust elevation on my M&P 22---the trick was to use both front and rear white dots from another M&P because they will both be matched for elevation. The standard white dot sights have a larger white dot than the white dot on the M&P22 front sight.
If you also have a red dot laser on your rail--you can match the laser with the boresighter with the 3 dot sights and voila----even before you ever fire the weapon you can be confident that your first shot will hit what you intend to hit.
I use a Bushnell small caliber boresighter---sort of looks like an icepick. I have been using it for a few years on my .22 and .17 rifles and my S&W 22A1 target pistol. Real simple to do and if done carefully will put you within about an 2 inch at 50 feet when you fire your first rounds. You can pick one up for less than $30. It comes with various adapters but I only use the smallest ones. Too long an arm to work on snub nose barrels. Can't get more accurate because dot size at 50 feet is larger than many think.
Just put into the barrel securely--turn red dot on-----aim at flat surface about 50 feet away-----look at 6 o'clock center sight picture--note where dot is and then drift adjust sights---as needed. Do it at least 3 times to doublecheck
You cannot adjust elevation unless you have rear adjust sights----It was not necessary to adjust elevation on my M&P 22---the trick was to use both front and rear white dots from another M&P because they will both be matched for elevation. The standard white dot sights have a larger white dot than the white dot on the M&P22 front sight.
If you also have a red dot laser on your rail--you can match the laser with the boresighter with the 3 dot sights and voila----even before you ever fire the weapon you can be confident that your first shot will hit what you intend to hit.
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DeeBee
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Well another 550 pack shot today. I am up to 2150, in the shots department. I still love this gun! I am learning to live with the occasional underpowered round. Out of 550 I shot today, I had about 20 underpowered rounds (Federal 550 pack). To be continued... 
... Out of 550 I shot today, I had about 20 underpowered rounds (Federal 550 pack). To be continued...
That's about what I'm getting too in a box of Federal 550.
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DeeBee
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I think the quality, is not as good as it once was, but it still isnt bad. Shooting 550 rounds for $20, is the way to go!
jsalas2
I switched from the Federal bulk to Winchester bulk due to price and a little more powerful rd leading to less FTE'S. The Winchester 333 rd bulk pack is $9.99 at walmart, had to drive around town to find a shooter friendly Walmart, some have almost no stock and some are fully stocked, so for the same price of the Fed 550, I get 2 boxes for a total of 666 rds for $20. Same price and over 100 extra rds. I've gone through nine boxes this month, thats 2997 rds for a little over $90, I love my M&P22, I'm always looking for a bargain.
I switched from the Federal bulk to Winchester bulk due to price and a little more powerful rd leading to less FTE'S. The Winchester 333 rd bulk pack is $9.99 at walmart, had to drive around town to find a shooter friendly Walmart, some have almost no stock and some are fully stocked, so for the same price of the Fed 550, I get 2 boxes for a total of 666 rds for $20. Same price and over 100 extra rds. I've gone through nine boxes this month, thats 2997 rds for a little over $90, I love my M&P22, I'm always looking for a bargain.
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So how does the Winchester compare to the Federal 550 overall? I have been paying $18.98 for the 550 pack.
jsalas2
It's not as nice and clean looking as the federal, but it is powerful enough to cycle the slide every time. The only thing that I didn't like was that some of the bullets were a little loose in the brass which caused a stovepipe. This happened only about three times out of three boxes 999 rds. All the other rounds shot without a problem. With the Federal I was getting alot of underpowered rounds, but the price was good until I found these whose price was even better. I don't think that I would have a problem with the Federal, now that my gun is broken in. So, now I am going with the best price. I have also used the blazer bulk which was good and powerful, I didn't like the wax surface that was on the bullets and they left my gun very dirty.
It's not as nice and clean looking as the federal, but it is powerful enough to cycle the slide every time. The only thing that I didn't like was that some of the bullets were a little loose in the brass which caused a stovepipe. This happened only about three times out of three boxes 999 rds. All the other rounds shot without a problem. With the Federal I was getting alot of underpowered rounds, but the price was good until I found these whose price was even better. I don't think that I would have a problem with the Federal, now that my gun is broken in. So, now I am going with the best price. I have also used the blazer bulk which was good and powerful, I didn't like the wax surface that was on the bullets and they left my gun very dirty.
I just bought a S&W MP in .22lr. I was impressed'
much better quality than my Walther P22, even though
its made by the same company, Carl Walther.
Have not shot it yet but will soon, i have several hundred rounds
of .22 ammo to break it in...
much better quality than my Walther P22, even though
its made by the same company, Carl Walther.
Have not shot it yet but will soon, i have several hundred rounds
of .22 ammo to break it in...
I love mine. Two trips to the range, 100 rounds of CCI each time. 100% so far. Only thing I don't like is the safety levers and the spongy trigger pull. It's light and accurate. So now the Colt .22 and S&W 617 stay in the safe because not only is it a great .22 to shoot, it's free practice for the .40 M&P.
mewisemajic
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I've been looking at one but wish there was a production version without the thumb safety. Still looking though.
air8
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Not a reason to not purchase. Easily defeatable...easily. I'm talking 3 minutes of your time.
Just got back from the range with my few-week-old M&P 22 - loving it!
I must disagree about the Winchester white box ammo - doesn't work worth a **** for my gun. CCI is flawless. Need to try Federal 745 and Remington GB next.
See my thread in this forum re. bulk ammo for M&P22s. Some interesting trends in the manufacturer's spec data. FWIW.
I must disagree about the Winchester white box ammo - doesn't work worth a **** for my gun. CCI is flawless. Need to try Federal 745 and Remington GB next.
See my thread in this forum re. bulk ammo for M&P22s. Some interesting trends in the manufacturer's spec data. FWIW.
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DeeBee
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Another 550 pack through her today. I am up to 2700 rounds now. Still battling with some weak ammo. I had to hand cycle the slide about 30 times today. I think it is a bad lot of Federal 550. I have about 10 boxes with the same lot number, and they have been giving me more trouble than the first few I shot with a different lot number.
I know its the ammo, because I can run Mini Mags, and never have a problem.... Oh well, for the money saved , I guess its worth it.
Stay tuned for more!
I know its the ammo, because I can run Mini Mags, and never have a problem.... Oh well, for the money saved , I guess its worth it.
Stay tuned for more!
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I also have been having more issues with federal lately than ever before. I got a bunch of the 525 blue pack from gander over the winter that were caked with wax and did a number on my guns. I have bought some auto match recently that has had underpowered rounds.
Hey DeeBee,
I had some "bad" federal .22 ammo also. Sent them an email and they bought it all back. Gave me full refund even for the box I shot . They were very cool about it. I even had the check before the ups guy picked up the remaining boxes. If you're unhappy with the stuff, let 'em know. Ron
I had some "bad" federal .22 ammo also. Sent them an email and they bought it all back. Gave me full refund even for the box I shot . They were very cool about it. I even had the check before the ups guy picked up the remaining boxes. If you're unhappy with the stuff, let 'em know. Ron
I also have the same experience. I've been relatively happy with my P22 just having gotten used to a periodic FTF or FTE (not common but every so many mags). Now with the M&P22 mag after mag after mag with not a single ammo issue using various Mfgs (excluding golden bombs). It is so nice just being able to shoot.
On the other hand, the ammo issues on the P22 gave my son experience in malfunction drills on a regular basis. He now does it naturally, so I suppose there was a small silver lining. As soon as my 2nd son's hand is large enough for the M&P22 frame, the P22 will be traded off.
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DeeBee
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Put another 300 rounds of Federal bulk today. I am up to 3000 rounds through her. I used a different lot this time, and she definately ran better. Only about 6 or 7 weak rounds.
