I rather it fail during dry firing than self defense firing. Someone posted here months ago that for every live round fired, he had dry fired his pistol something like 50 times. I don't recall if it was a Shield or other M&P. I'll keep dry firing whenever I feel like it!
New M&P Shield trigger pull question
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I rather it fail during dry firing than self defense firing. Someone posted here months ago that for every live round fired, he had dry fired his pistol something like 50 times. I don't recall if it was a Shield or other M&P. I'll keep dry firing whenever I feel like it!
I grew up with the understanding dry fireing can damage your firing pin.now i see this and think is dry firing harder on the firing pin even on the newer guns than shooting them
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Any idea how many times you dry fired before it gave out? S&W states that you can safely dry fire this gun but no more for me, that's it not even with a snap cap.Thanks!
Tom
About a thousand in the year I've owned it. I now have Tipton snap caps.
Hay thanks well this is me but I don't think I'll dry fire it any more seeing that it's my new carry piece I had another Smith that I dry fired and the firing pin broke just glad I didn't have to find out in a time of need.
Tom
harley0711
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I know this post is old --- However, wanted to add my .02
Just got home and took my NON Complaint CA shield out of the box NO yet even fired... did three trigger pull test
S&W states stock trigger is 6 pound 8 ounces +-.
Mine (not fired yet - brand new)
6 pounds 14 ounces
6 pounds 11 ounces
6 pounds 9 ounces
placing the guage on this trigger was not easy - I am guessing that is way the 5 ounce range PLUS Iam not an expert on this, Just wanted to see what it was even before the break in.
To me it feels fine and should only get better with use - Plus, several Youtube video's on how to smooth it out OR I can $$$$ and up grade the trigger...
For now, I am happy with the trigger and the Urban legand that the Non safety was a HEAVY Trigger is not true on this gun
BTW - my Glocks 26/27 came in at 6 pounds 1 ounce AND 5 pounds 13 ounces
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Just got home and took my NON Complaint CA shield out of the box NO yet even fired... did three trigger pull test
S&W states stock trigger is 6 pound 8 ounces +-.
Mine (not fired yet - brand new)
6 pounds 14 ounces
6 pounds 11 ounces
6 pounds 9 ounces
placing the guage on this trigger was not easy - I am guessing that is way the 5 ounce range PLUS Iam not an expert on this, Just wanted to see what it was even before the break in.
To me it feels fine and should only get better with use - Plus, several Youtube video's on how to smooth it out OR I can $$$$ and up grade the trigger...
For now, I am happy with the trigger and the Urban legand that the Non safety was a HEAVY Trigger is not true on this gun
BTW - my Glocks 26/27 came in at 6 pounds 1 ounce AND 5 pounds 13 ounces
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gunfighter48
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My 9mm Shield had a trigger pull of about 8lbs measured with my Lyman electronic trigger gauge. That was too heavy for my taste. So I installed the Apex Duty/Carry sear and spring kit. I did leave the S&W trigger spring in the gun. That got me down to about 5lb 4oz trigger pull. I decided to install the Apex trigger and now have a lot less take up and over travel. The trigger is now a consistent 4lb 4oz pull. It now has a nice clean break. My other carry guns are 1911 45ACPs and they all have 4lb triggers. That's the way I like my triggers.
robkarrob
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I know this is an older thread but here's my 2 cents worth:
Shield factory specs were 6.5 pounds +/- 2 pounds. I don't know if S&W has changed those specs, but they were +/- 2 full pounds. Most Shields came with a 6.5 pound pull +/- 1/2 pound. My Shield was 6.5 pounds, measured with an accurate Lyman Digital trigger gauge.
I will shed some light on the Apex DCAEK (Duty/Carry Action Enhancement Kit). That kit is available for all M&Ps and when all parts are installed, Apex states the pull should be between 5 to 5.5 pounds. Per Jon Shadwick from Apex Tactical, if you keep the stock trigger spring and the stock sear spring, the trigger pull weight should drop one pound and be between 4 to 4.5 pounds. Apex offers their FSS kit (Forward Set Sear) that moves the trigger at rest position forward, reduces trigger take-up and over-travel. It comes with two springs for a 4 or 5.5 pound trigger pull. Apex description for the FSS is "It produces a trigger pull as close to a 1911 trigger as possible in a polymer frame pistol."
My Shield 40 has only the Apex sear and Apex striker blocker and spring. I used the stock Shield sear spring and a Glock trigger spring, along with some other mods. The short video below shows a 3/8 inch take-up, a little over 1/16 of sear pull to break, minimal over-travel due to my OT stop, and a 3/32 inch reset, with a 3 1/2 pound trigger pull weight. Just the way I wanted it, but you may not like it. I prefer the 3/8 inch of take-up as an extra safety factor, in a carry gun. The take-up is only 1.0 pound of pull pressure and acts like a 2 stage trigger pull.
Bob
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T60sTwJ_FNE
Shield factory specs were 6.5 pounds +/- 2 pounds. I don't know if S&W has changed those specs, but they were +/- 2 full pounds. Most Shields came with a 6.5 pound pull +/- 1/2 pound. My Shield was 6.5 pounds, measured with an accurate Lyman Digital trigger gauge.
I will shed some light on the Apex DCAEK (Duty/Carry Action Enhancement Kit). That kit is available for all M&Ps and when all parts are installed, Apex states the pull should be between 5 to 5.5 pounds. Per Jon Shadwick from Apex Tactical, if you keep the stock trigger spring and the stock sear spring, the trigger pull weight should drop one pound and be between 4 to 4.5 pounds. Apex offers their FSS kit (Forward Set Sear) that moves the trigger at rest position forward, reduces trigger take-up and over-travel. It comes with two springs for a 4 or 5.5 pound trigger pull. Apex description for the FSS is "It produces a trigger pull as close to a 1911 trigger as possible in a polymer frame pistol."
My Shield 40 has only the Apex sear and Apex striker blocker and spring. I used the stock Shield sear spring and a Glock trigger spring, along with some other mods. The short video below shows a 3/8 inch take-up, a little over 1/16 of sear pull to break, minimal over-travel due to my OT stop, and a 3/32 inch reset, with a 3 1/2 pound trigger pull weight. Just the way I wanted it, but you may not like it. I prefer the 3/8 inch of take-up as an extra safety factor, in a carry gun. The take-up is only 1.0 pound of pull pressure and acts like a 2 stage trigger pull.
Bob
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T60sTwJ_FNE
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