New M&P Shield trigger pull question

[patsfan1281]

Because the law makers in MA are a bunch of liberal protectionist who believe that a heavy trigger keeps you from shooting people. All it does it make you miss your target. Keeping your finger off the trigger keeps the gun from firing...

MA lawmakers are complete and utter morons.


Thanks for the info. I wondered why it took so much to pull the trigger when i first shot the gun...now i know why...maybe apex kit down the road...but will the trigger loosen up at all after say 1,000 rounds?

 

[tjpopkin]

I've been on a waiting list for a new 40S&W Shield for quite a while. It finally came in at a LGS, so I went by and picked it up for $425+tax. I have not had a chance to shoot it yet, but I've noticed that the trigger pull is significantly heavier than the sample gun the LGS had. I measured it using my Lyman trigger pull gauge and it averages about 9Lbs, 12oz. Yes, I did check the SKU number which is 180020, so it's not the MA compliant model. Do the Shield triggers start out heavy and lighten up or am I looking at having to have the trigger worked on?

Just put an Apex kit in the Shield and don't look back....it is fantastic.

 

[patsfan1281]

Just put an Apex kit in the Shield and don't look back....it is fantastic.

Can any gunsmith or gun guy do this for relatively cheap? This wouldn't make the gun illegal in MA would it?

 

[SMMAssociates]

patsfan:

If the smith has experience doing it, it's about a half-hour of bench time. Something like $50, I suppose. Probably a bit more if he's not tried it.

You can DIY the whole project, but swapping the sear spring has to be done in a plastic bag 'cause parts will go flying.

Taking the rear sight off the Shield is supposed to be a real bear, too. I think they're using the elephant that Kimber uses to place their rear sights.... A good smith should have the skills, and/or a pusher, although a lot of cursing and some luck (and a nylon or brass punch) helps a lot.

I'm not a lawyer, but my guess would be that selling (at an FFL) the gun might be a problem. Owning it shouldn't be. It's just a spring swap, and a "what the heck - it's always felt like 5#" defense probably would fly. S&W is stamping those out fast enough to assume somebody'd put the "wrong" spring in there....

It's NOT a "shoot it until it smooths out" issue - I don't think you'd lose more than a pound, if that much, if you bought Winchester and devoted your life to WWB's .... Unless the spring breaks.... Shooting it WILL clean up the drop safety, trigger bar, and sear interfaces a bit v.s. just some polishing, but the full Apex (or Burwell) treatment of the drop safety may be better. Heck of a lot quicker, too ....

Regards,

 

[RichardDBeck]

Taking the rear sight off the Shield is supposed to be a real bear, too.

This is true. I've taken mine off and it's not a walk in the park. Once I had it off I polished off about .002 of an inch and it makes adjusting the sight possible.

 

[MSG Glenn]

Whats the trigger pull like now?

Tom

Sorry for the delay in answering, Tom. The pull might not be any lighter but it's nice & smooth with no or very little grittiness. It does seem to be a bit lighter but that's probably because it's smoother. Another problem some have had is a burr in their sear block. That's the little silver button that the trigger bar pushes down. To test fore that take the gun down & push the button down manually. I used an unsharpened pencil. Fortunately mine was smooth. If it weren't that would have entailed taking it out & polishing that, too, something I'd rather not have to do. I imagine with polishing of both if it needed it the trigger pull would have to be a bit lighter.

Just a visual check of the trigger bar showed it to be rough & with scraping my fingernail down the face that pushes the sear block confirmed that. This is not a complete cure for the trigger problems some have but it sure saved me from having to buy an Apex kit. I am not a trigger snob nor do I intend to compete. I'd like to think that my marksmanship improved but nothing will do that, lol.

Glenn

 

[preluda97]

so i am new to guns...why would MA require 10 lbs to pull when others don't? Is this why my buddy told me to get the apex kit? Is that basically a new trigger?

get the APEX KIT its worth it, 10.5 lb triggers in Mass

 

[patsfan1281]

get the APEX KIT its worth it, 10.5 lb triggers in Mass

I did get the kit...getting put in next week sometime.

3-4 lbs lighter and smother? Will be awesome

 

[tblt44]

My shield trigger pull really sucks bad.
Im thinking 9+ lbs.
My Kahr is a dream compaired to it

 

[Der Biermeister]

My shield trigger pull really sucks bad.
Im thinking 9+ lbs.
My Kahr is a dream compaired to it

Is it possible you got an MA gun?

 

[Curt31]

My shield trigger pull really sucks bad.
Im thinking 9+ lbs.
My Kahr is a dream compaired to it

Hi guess you're have to do what I did and bit the bullet so to speak and buy a Apex trigger kit like I did. I really didn't want to after spending 400.00 on the gun but I wasent completly happy with the trigger either, also decided to get a set of big dot sights to and do it all at one time.

Tom

 

[tblt44]

Is it possible you got an MA gun?

How can I tell if its a Ma gun. I live in Fl so I wouldnt think so

 

[tblt44]

Mine was gritty and hard to pull also.

I polished the striker block, deburred the block bore and polished the sear and trigger bar on mine and it made a huge difference.

Mine is around 6 lbs now.

will this void warrenty ?
I'm just kinda afraid to pull it apart

 

[Der Biermeister]

How can I tell if its a Ma gun. I live in Fl so I wouldnt think so

I think it can be traced via the serial number.

Also - not too long ago, we had a guy here who had just bought a Shield in some non-MA state and he determined the gun was in fact a MA gun. Not sure of the outcome, but I believe either the LGS or S&W made it right.

9 lbs is WAY too high (it is supposed to be 6), unless it does turn out to be a MA gun.

 

[shakyshoot]

so i am new to guns...why would MA require 10 lbs to pull when others don't? Is this why my buddy told me to get the apex kit? Is that basically a new trigger?

That 10 lb trigger thing really has to be the dumbest gun law that's actually been passed. Kind of like saying a dull knife is safer than a sharp one.

Haven't measured the trigger pull on my new Shield, but it's got to be in the ballpark of 6.5 lb out of the box.

 

[tblt44]

I think it can be traced via the serial number.

Also - not too long ago, we had a guy here who had just bought a Shield in some non-MA state and he determined the gun was in fact a MA gun. Not sure of the outcome, but I believe either the LGS or S&W made it right.

9 lbs is WAY too high (it is supposed to be 6), unless it does turn out to be a MA gun.

Ok the model numnber ends in 20 which acording to s&w web site its not a MA gun. Unless a MA gun got in the wrong box.
I need to have my trigger pull checked Im just guessing compairing it to my ither guns

 

[VegasRetiree]

Shield 40 Striker replacement and trigger pull

I ordered the Apex Shield Carry Kit to modify my 7 lb. trigger pull. As luck would have it, the striker firing pin broke during practice dry fire that evening. Sent it to S&W for repair and received it back 10 days later (great customer service) with a new striker installed. I received a blank trouble sheet so, other than the new striker, I can't tell if any additional work was done. I took it to the range that same day and ran 100 rounds through the gun. I was shocked to notice how light the trigger now seemed to be, which was further evidenced by how well I was grouping that day relative to previous range trips with the pistol. After cleaning the gun, I measured the trigger pull and got 10 consistent reading of 5 1/4 to 5 1/2 lbs trigger pull. Smooth, and the overtravel even seemed to be gone. I'm not sure what would cause these differences, but I am happy!

Now I have a Shield Carry Kit I no longer need!

 

[shawn mccarver]

Despite the statements here, a trigger does NOT drop from 9 3/4 pounds to 6 1/2 pounds by shooting 200 rounds or by some polishing. LOL

I am glad to hear you figured out how to use your trigger pull gauge. The reading you are getting is likely within spec.

Enjoy your pistol.

 

[Curt31]

I ordered the Apex Shield Carry Kit to modify my 7 lb. trigger pull. As luck would have it, the striker firing pin broke during practice dry fire that evening. Sent it to S&W for repair and received it back 10 days later (great customer service) with a new striker installed. I received a blank trouble sheet so, other than the new striker, I can't tell if any additional work was done. I took it to the range that same day and ran 100 rounds through the gun. I was shocked to notice how light the trigger now seemed to be, which was further evidenced by how well I was grouping that day relative to previous range trips with the pistol. After cleaning the gun, I measured the trigger pull and got 10 consistent reading of 5 1/4 to 5 1/2 lbs trigger pull. Smooth, and the overtravel even seemed to be gone. I'm not sure what would cause these differences, but I am happy!

Now I have a Shield Carry Kit I no longer need!

Any idea how many times you dry fired before it gave out? S&W states that you can safely dry fire this gun but no more for me, that's it not even with a snap cap. Thanks!

Tom

 

[tblt44]

Any idea how many times you dry fired before it gave out? S&W states that you can safely dry fire this gun but no more for me, that's it not even with a snap cap. Thanks!

Tom

Ya Thats it for meet too. I dont want my SD gun to fail due to dry firing