New M&P9c has three mags and a slide that won't release easily

[Lost Lake]

Two topics we have discussed before, how many mags are in the box and the auto-release.

I have bought 3 M&P's and they all had three mags in the box. The 9c came with 2 pinky extensions and 1 flat plate.

The slide release on this M&P is a pain! I can't release the slide by pushing the release lever. I either have to pull the slide back a bit while pushing the release or push with two thumbs very hard. I think there is some kind of burr on either the release catch or the slide. Before I start filing on anything I wanted to see what you guys thought....

 

[firebirdude]

As said many times throughout this forum, that tab is actually not a slide release. We've even had people break the tab clean off the firearm while trying to use it as such.

 

[Texas Solo]

Two topics we have discussed before, how many mags are in the box and the auto-release.

I can't release the slide by pushing the release lever. I either have to pull the slide back a bit while pushing the release or push with two thumbs very hard.

Here we go again. Slide stop vs. slide release.

 

[Roadranger]

Are you trying to release it with an empty magazine in it? If so it's going to be hard because you are pushing on the magazine follower at the same time. It should be easy to release with no magazine in the gun or a loaded magazine. Secondly, that's the slide stop, not a slide release. Try using the other hand to fully retract the slide and then let it go. That way one gets all of the springs power to chamber the round. Bob!

 

[WashMP9]

you got the leo and .mil models. those come with 3 mags.

 

[Lost Lake]

Okay, sorry guys!
Yes, I release the slide with my right thumb after inserting a mag. On my other M&P's it works just fine. Not so on the newest one.

I swapped a .40FS slide onto the 9c frame and it released hard also. So the difference is in the slide lock lever itself.

I understand the lever is a slide lock and not a release, but I choose to use it as a release and abuse my gun that way.

People have actually broken the lock back lever? Wow. Mine isn't that bad! And now that I have been playing with it a hundred times or so, I can actually get the auto-forward to work!

(That was bad right? ) LOL!!

 

[Lost Lake]

you got the leo and .mil models. those come with 3 mags.

Really? See I never heard that. I bought one from a normal everyday dealer and it came with three mags... I just figure everybody that got two had one pilfered by the dealer before they got the gun

 

[NCW Ray]

My "slide stop" was extremely hard to operate with my thumb too. What I did was lube the notch in the slide where the slide stop comes into contact with it and then repeatedly released the slide with it. After numerous releases I am now able to operate it easily with my thumb. I did put on a pair of gloves to protect my thumb while doing this. I did this to all 5 of the M&P's my family has. All of them can be released by thumb now if the need should arise.

 

[GKC]

I have at various times bought about 8 M&P models (not that I have them all now...I just have the one M&P9c that I just bought) and each and every one has come with two mags, not three.

I never use the slide stop to release the slide, other than with Kahr pistols (you are supposed to use the slide stop lever to release the slide on a Kahr...it is in the instructions.)

 

[504forlife]

New to the forum myself and have a few questions. The slide stop on my new M&P9c is also a lot diffrent from the 40c FS I own. If I don't take a little pressure off the slide stop by pulling it back it won't budge. I used NCW Ray's technique and it helped a little but still take two fingers... any other tips on how to make it more smooth? Or at least the technique you use as not to be affected by it.

 

[Lost Lake]

Hey 50,
Is your 40 a c or an FS? It can't be a 40cFS

All my FS (full size) release easily, only my c (compact) is a struggle... I'm working on smoothing that one out...

 

[M&PEE]

The more you shoot it the better it gets. Just rack the slide sling shot for a while and it will wear in. I had the same issue with my compact and not the f/s. It will be fine in a couple of range trips.

 

[Fir Fer]

OK, the M&P manual calls it the Ambidextrous Slide Stop, not the Ambidextrous Slide Release. It took me a bit to not try to use it as a release, this pistol is not a 1911 nor a clone of a 1911 do not treat it as such.

When you try to make something do something it is not designed to do you run into problems. Then you want to blame it on the gun. It is called the Ambidextrous Slide Stop for a reason use it as such.

 

[Lost Lake]

OK, the M&P manual calls it the Ambidextrous Slide Stop, not the Ambidextrous Slide Release. It took me a bit to not try to use it as a release, this pistol is not a 1911 nor a clone of a 1911 do not treat it as such.

When you try to make something do something it is not designed to do you run into problems. Then you want to blame it on the gun. It is called the Ambidextrous Slide Stop for a reason use it as such.

Ya ya ya. we know that . Let me rephrase the question then: Why is the slide stop easier to release on my FS than my compact? I think there is a little burr on the slide stop catch itself... I'm really tempted to polish that edge of the lever....

 

[mkygod]

Ya ya ya. we know that . Let me rephrase the question then: Why is the slide stop easier to release on my FS than my compact? I think there is a little burr on the slide stop catch itself... I'm really tempted to polish that edge of the lever....

Is the recoil spring on the compact models stronger? If so, this would put more tension on the slide stop, making it harder to release.

 

[Fir Fer]

Ya ya ya. we know that . Let me rephrase the question then: Why is the slide stop easier to release on my FS than my compact? I think there is a little burr on the slide stop catch itself... I'm really tempted to polish that edge of the lever....

I don't know, My MP45 mid size will not release unless I rack the slide. With out being able to handle both pistols it's hard to tell, why your FS releases different than your C.

 

[SoCalDep]

OK, the M&P manual calls it the Ambidextrous Slide Stop, not the Ambidextrous Slide Release. It took me a bit to not try to use it as a release, this pistol is not a 1911 nor a clone of a 1911 do not treat it as such.

When you try to make something do something it is not designed to do you run into problems. Then you want to blame it on the gun. It is called the Ambidextrous Slide Stop for a reason use it as such.

This is a sorry excuse for a part that frequently doesn't work as designed. I can put a gas pedal in a car and call it a squirrel but if I push on it and the car doesn't go there's a problem.

Pistols have been made with slide "releases" for over a hundred years. Don't tell me now all of a sudden for one gun the manufacturer has simply decided it's not a "release" any more...except it's in the same place and functions just like all the other "releases" made in the past hundred years...but now I have to not touch it? That's ridiculous.

That's doublespeak in the same vein as trying to convince me that releasing the slide upon seating the magazine is a "feature".

Smith and Wesson needs to admit they have some issues when it comes to the slide "lock"/"release"/ etc. and deal with it or simply let us deal with it. Making up funny excuses is stupid. In fact, it's dangerous.

 

[Fir Fer]

This is a sorry excuse for a part that frequently doesn't work as designed. I can put a gas pedal in a car and call it a squirrel but if I push on it and the car doesn't go there's a problem.

Pistols have been made with slide "releases" for over a hundred years. Don't tell me now all of a sudden for one gun the manufacturer has simply decided it's not a "release" any more...except it's in the same place and functions just like all the other "releases" made in the past hundred years...but now I have to not touch it? That's ridiculous.

That's doublespeak in the same vein as trying to convince me that releasing the slide upon seating the magazine is a "feature".

Smith and Wesson needs to admit they have some issues when it comes to the slide "lock"/"release"/ etc. and deal with it or simply let us deal with it. Making up funny excuses is stupid. In fact, it's dangerous.

Hey I did not design the M&P, I just shoot one, I know how the gun works and that is a Slide Stop not a release. As for the slide racking when loading the mag, mine did it at first but does not do it all the time now after running 410 rounds threw it, so I do not count on it.

 

[MIST]

I've been using the "slide Stop" as a release ever since I started carrying a semi-automatic pistol early on in my career. I was trained in several variations of reload technique, one of which was to use the "slide Stop" to release the slide allowing it to move forward and chamber a round. Several years ago during training I was warned not to release the slide allowing it to slam forward onto an empty chamber as this may cause damage to the extractor. Don't really know it that's true or hype. I'm sure someone with the proper knowledge and experience can shed some light on that.

My thinking is if the "slide stop" was not designed to be used as a release also, then why have an exposed "slide stop" lever at all and why are extended "slide stop" levers offered for so many pistols?

Lastly, the "slide stop" on all of my pistols past and present, except my 9C, have functioned easily allowing me to drop the slide chambering a loaded round. I believe the 9C will smoothe out with use.

All of my M&P's (9C, 40C and 45C) came with two magazines.

 

[magpul83]

Two topics we have discussed before, how many mags are in the box

I ordered my M&P9C last week Thursday. The shop I purchase from did not have the model I wanted in stock (SKU# 209304). I was told it would by a 30 day wait (at least). Much to my surprise, it arrived yesterday (10/24/2011). I went and picked it up last night and it contained (2) magazines. One 12 rounder with the finger rest, one 12 rounder without the finger rest.



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