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erick1987
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120 shipped from opticsplanet.com. they list for around 160.
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RedNeck Jim
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Trying to learn something here. Why do you need, or maybe better stated, how do you use such a scope on a 22lr plinker? I can understand & actually have a high end magnified scope for my AR, but personally don't get using such a scope on the 15-22 platform. First of all, the gun is not designed to be a tack driver and secondly the 22lr has horrible ballistics. My AR can easily reach out hundreds of yards, but for a 22lr, you would have to aim it like a mortar.
Obviously we all use our guns in different ways. I picked the 15-22 to be a cheap trainer for my AR... especially for training for close in shooting. If accuracy was my primary concern, I would have picked another rifle. But when I see such optics on the 15-22, it just makes me wonder why? What am I missing?
To reiterate, I'm not putting anyone down but trying to learn how others use this gun we all love so much.
Obviously we all use our guns in different ways. I picked the 15-22 to be a cheap trainer for my AR... especially for training for close in shooting. If accuracy was my primary concern, I would have picked another rifle. But when I see such optics on the 15-22, it just makes me wonder why? What am I missing?
To reiterate, I'm not putting anyone down but trying to learn how others use this gun we all love so much.
Majorlk
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Because they can, Jim. 
Much of what we do to our 15-22s has little to do with actual functionality, just what looks cool. I've tried three different scopes, including 6-24x40 before settling on a little UTG 3-9x32. The 6-24 didn't last long, not more than a single range session, before going back on my Ruger match 77/22.
Much of what we do to our 15-22s has little to do with actual functionality, just what looks cool. I've tried three different scopes, including 6-24x40 before settling on a little UTG 3-9x32. The 6-24 didn't last long, not more than a single range session, before going back on my Ruger match 77/22.
RedNeck Jim
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So it is a look thing? Being tacticool?
Surely most here are shooting at under 100 yards and probably I guess most at 50 or less. Just seems like such a huge scope takes away from the basic purpose of the gun... being light & easy to use. I guess my being a country redneck keeps me from really understanding how others use this gun. I live on a 20 acre homestead with 1000s of acres of pastures & woods surrounding me. But I guess many here are city folks that can only shoot at a range. I can understand that but just seems the 15-22 would not be my first choice for a range rifle. Seems to me, I'd want a tack driver for that use. Might help if you guys described a typical range session.
But your comments on functionality helps me the most. I'm just a country boy who could care less how something looks. I am most concerned with function. For example, I have a Leopold scope that costs double what this 15-22 costs, but rarely put it on my AR as I don't shoot long range much. I have a tactical light and laser that can mount to my guns but only put them on if shooting varmints at night. Yes, these things, and others, look cool but unless they are really needed they stay in the closet. I guess you could say I'm a boring guy shooting a boring rifle.
Majorlk
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Yea, I think a lot of what people do to 15-22s is a "cool look" thing. Just scroll through the photo thread to see what I mean. Some of these guns have so much junk hanging off them that are almost useless, IMHO. A big scope, an RDS and BUIS all three at the same time?
Every change I have made from stock is to increase the functionality for me. That includes the MsgPul CTR butt stock I just put on it.
All that said, it's their rifle and their money. Who am I to tell them it is wrong? They don't owe me any more explanation for their configuration than I do them of mine.
Every change I have made from stock is to increase the functionality for me. That includes the MsgPul CTR butt stock I just put on it.
All that said, it's their rifle and their money. Who am I to tell them it is wrong? They don't owe me any more explanation for their configuration than I do them of mine.
So it is a look thing? Being tacticool?
Surely most here are shooting at under 100 yards and probably I guess most at 50 or less. Just seems like such a huge scope takes away from the basic purpose of the gun... being light & easy to use. I guess my being a country redneck keeps me from really understanding how others use this gun. I live on a 20 acre homestead with 1000s of acres of pastures & woods surrounding me. But I guess many here are city folks that can only shoot at a range. I can understand that but just seems the 15-22 would not be my first choice for a range rifle. Seems to me, I'd want a tack driver for that use. Might help if you guys described a typical range session.
But your comments on functionality helps me the most. I'm just a country boy who could care less how something looks. I am most concerned with function. For example, I have a Leopold scope that costs double what this 15-22 costs, but rarely put it on my AR as I don't shoot long range much. I have a tactical light and laser that can mount to my guns but only put them on if shooting varmints at night. Yes, these things, and others, look cool but unless they are really needed they stay in the closet. I guess you could say I'm a boring guy shooting a boring rifle.
Chocolate or vanilla?
RedNeck Jim
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Agree 1000%. My comments are not to put anyone down. I do however enjoy reading how others use their guns. I still don't understand all this magnification used on a bullet with such horrible ballistics. IMO, many "misses" on a range could just as well be attributed to the ammo as much as to shooting technique.
RedNeck Jim
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I like my gun light. Me, I'm not light, so I'll take both chocolate & vanilla... with a scoop of strawberry too please.
team sidewinder
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I put a scope on my 15-22 for gohper hunting as the old eyes aren't what they were years ago. But after using the 15-22 for this type of hunting it is pretty much giving the gophers a 50/50% chance of not getting shot even with the scope. With the hard times it is for getting .22 ammo I have gone back to my .22 Remington bolt action for 97% kill shots on gophers so less ammo used and more gophers gone. As mentioned this rifle is no tack driver nor was it designed to be. IMHO.
I've shot with a scope on mine from time to time. I like it because it's nice to be able to see your "hits" from a distance. It's also kinda neat, once it's dialed in, to be able to shoot ridiculous quantities of ammo through a very small hole.
yzf128r
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I have the same scope that I run on my 15-22 and AR when I'm not running a red dot. It's a great scope for the price! It has no problem holding zero on my 5.56, and the optics are very crisp and clear.
Majorlk
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On a 15-22, I agree with you, but try shooting with an Olympic grade Anschutz or other high end match .22. Sub-MOA is typical at 100 yards. The right rifle/ammo combination is the key. Even my Ruger 77/22 with Eley match and my 6-24x40 scope gives me close to MOA at 100 yards, and that's not an expensive combination, by any means. As for the ballistics being "horrible", again, that's a personal opinion; It all depends upon the intended use for the cartridge.
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i have a Nikon P22 for my 15-22. the scope was designed for the 15-22. it's real nice to be able to see your hits on the target. not sure what's so confusing about that.
my aimpoint h1 2moa and magnifier combo is not even mounted on any of my AR15s. i use my m223 4-16 nikon scope as my primary optic on my BCM carbine.
yes i am a paper puncher at the range. like i said it's more fun to actually being able to see what you're hitting downrange. if i had access to a ton of land, perhaps the aimpoint would be more fun. but not here.
my aimpoint h1 2moa and magnifier combo is not even mounted on any of my AR15s. i use my m223 4-16 nikon scope as my primary optic on my BCM carbine.
yes i am a paper puncher at the range. like i said it's more fun to actually being able to see what you're hitting downrange. if i had access to a ton of land, perhaps the aimpoint would be more fun. but not here.
RedNeck Jim
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I stand corrected, my friend. I should have stated when using standard 22lr ammo in this specific gun. I don't doubt you can get match grade 22lr ammo with good ballistics, but I'm betting I can get .223 ammo for close to that price plus I bet that 22lr ammo is sub-sonic, and therefore certainly wouldn't be used for shooting long range. As I stated earlier, this is a fun gun but it is no tack driver. I can understand magnification on a range rifle designed for accuracy but as we all know, the 15-22 is not such a gun.
I am certainly no expert but everything I've read is the 22lr is an old design that has some of the worst ballistics of any rifle round out there. The word horrible comes from reviews I've read, as I'm certainty no scientist.
RedNeck Jim
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Keep in mind I have no range around me. We shoot on open land. The only range shooting I did was years ago in the Air Force, during qualifications. Country folks like me use their guns for hunting or for practice. Generally, we only punch paper when sighting in a gun.
That is what I'm trying to understand. So when you use this gun, your normal outing is to see how tight a group you can get on paper during each session? Is that all you do?
yzf128r
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Really? You don't have to be trying to shoot sub MOA, or punching paper for accuracy to use a scope. Sometimes it's nice to be able to see your target at distance whether it be a pop can or whatever.
Majorlk
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I don't understand the comparison between .22 LR and .223/5.56. Two different rounds for two basically different purposes, IMHO. Yea, it's an old round, but there's a limit to what one can do with that small a case. So what?
Sounds like you are bored again and need an argument to liven up your life today.
