New SD9VE Owner with a Few Questions

[djzero]

Hi all. I've had my SD9VE for a couple of months now, has about 800 or so rounds through it. I noticed something when I was cleaning it the other day that I wanted to ask about. I'm not sure what the part is called, but when pulling the trigger, this is the piece that the rear of the trigger assembly moves past before it fires. In this picture, it is the U-shaped piece of metal:



In mine, this piece of metal has some play to it, and I was curious if it is supposed to or not. I would think that if it were solid, there'd be a cleaner break when firing so I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the ambiguity around where my trigger breaks.

Also, I have the california-compliant model, which has a takedown lever. I neglected to read the manual right away, and when stripping it the first few times, removed the slide by inserting an empty mag instead. Have I compromised the long-term integrity of anything by doing this?

 

[DnPRK]

I also have the California model with magazine disconnect and find using a magazine easier than pushing down on the takedown lever.

I don't know what you mean by the u-shaped sear having play. It has a pivot pin at the bottom of the plastic sear housing and a spring to keep it pushed forward. The disconnector which sticks up to the right of the sear has some play but should not effect trigger pull or where it breaks.

I installed an Apex Tactical spring kit which gives me a consistent 6.3 pound trigger pull.

 

[ou1954]

I have the CA model even though I don't live there. I bought it for the extra safety features . . . long story.

I decided to write up, for my own use, a take-down procedure sheet showing the differences between the take down for the standard version and the CA version. So far so good . . .

THEN one day I took it down WITHOUT pushing the magazine safety lever down. It went together normally and behaves normally but I have not had it to the range since then.

I sent a note to S&W asking whether I might have damaged something but my request is in a long queue.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? It came down easily with the lever still up so I am curious as to why there is a special procedure in the manual.

I did compare the movement of my trigger lever with a video from Apex and my seer is not touched by the trigger bar when the gun is open.

 

[ou1954]

I got a response from S&W about doing a take-down on a CA version without pulling the trigger and pushing down the magazine safety lever.

The S&W tech said it wasn't a problem and not to worry about it. I have since tried to see if there is any interference among parts when the "special, CA version" process is not followed. I could not find anything different in feel or result regardless of which procedure I used.

Does anyone with a CA version have any experience different from mine?

 

[ou1954]

Mine breaks down nicely following the CA steps in the manual, but also without using those steps.

In both cases the magazine must be out because it extends up and blocks the slide from being moved forward to break-down.

As I said previously, the S&W tech wasn't concerned. His message is on another computer so I will get the message tomorrow and post what he said. I am waiting for another related response and maybe I will know the reason the CA procedure is specified for those guns.

 

[djzero]

DnPRK, I took out the sear housing this weekend and now I see where you'd be confused. Of course it's meant to pivot. I'm not familiar enough with the mechanism to know why, but I now see that this is definitely supposed to move.

Thank you both for assuaging my concerns.

 

[Raitor]

CA COMPLIANT TAKE DOWN

If you have taken it down by removing the rear sear block,, sorry I'm new to this also, while watching all of the apex videos on spring replacements they don't address CA compliant extra parts, as soon as you remove the pin and remove the rear sear block the extra arm falls out for the no mag no fire safety. That spring needs to be in the right position for this feature to work. email Mark at apex for the picture of the correct position of the spring, it should help. it looks to me that its in the wrong position. I tried to attach it but couldn't. Hope this helps.

 

[ou1954]

Sear release

DnPRK, I took out the sear housing this weekend and now I see where you'd be confused. Of course it's meant to pivot. I'm not familiar enough with the mechanism to know why, but I now see that this is definitely supposed to move.

Thank you both for assuaging my concerns.

That U-shaped piece rotates back and down as you pull the trigger and is actually the part that releases the lug on the striker. Don't do anything to it.

You can actually see it in action if you use a flashlight and peek through the clearance slots in the back slide cover.

 

[ou1954]

Trigger bar

Hi all. I've had my SD9VE for a couple of months now, has about 800 or so rounds through it. I noticed something when I was cleaning it the other day that I wanted to ask about. I'm not sure what the part is called, but when pulling the trigger, this is the piece that the rear of the trigger assembly moves past before it fires. In this picture, it is the U-shaped piece of metal:

In mine, this piece of metal has some play to it, and I was curious if it is supposed to or not. I would think that if it were solid, there'd be a cleaner break when firing so I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the ambiguity around where my trigger breaks.

Also, I have the california-compliant model, which has a takedown lever. I neglected to read the manual right away, and when stripping it the first few times, removed the slide by inserting an empty mag instead. Have I compromised the long-term integrity of anything by doing this?

I have one suggestion that might be helpful. In your original picture you will notice the trigger bar which is against the right side of the frame. If you do a bit of polishing on the right side of that bar, then put some grease in there it will smooth your trigger pull considerably.

The "Takedown lever" is actually the barrel stop. You need to relieve the pressure on it by retracting the slide a tiny bit and it can then be moved down out of the way so you can remove the slide. Never try to remove the slide with a magazine in place.