New Sheild all modded out

[ryan_veezy]

Hey guys. New to these forums. I just wanted to let everyone know what im gonna be packing soon.

Got me a new sheild.

Michael Kole holster on the way.

Hogue Jr rubber grips.

Apex trigger job bringing it to a 3.9 lb trigger pull.

Tru Glo sights on the way.

Im very happy with this gun. Its a beast. I carry the M&P 40 every day for work and now I will carry the shield every day off duty. I will post pics when I get it all done.

 

[1bdvet]

Nice choice, in S&W. Aim straight!

 

[Rotty37]

Apex trigger job bringing it to a 3.9 lb trigger pull on a CCW pistol?

Ouch!

 

[RobzGuns]

A beast?
Compared to other Light Weight Subcompacts I've owned and shot, mine's a Sweetheart.
No thanks on the 3.9Lb trigger job. I also prefer a heavier trigger on a CC pistol than what you're wanting, but if you're happy, that's what counts.

 

[jfrey]

I put the Apex hard sear in my Shield and then took it back out for the same reason. The trigger was very light and good but too light for a carry gun. A little polishing and a couple hundred rounds got mine just where I wanted it with the original sear. The Apex striker block is worth the effort, however. It took all the grittyness out of the trigger and smoothed things out a lot.

 

[Hal_Jordan]

I'd like to see pics of the Tru Glo after installation. Are they larger than the factory sights? All the pictures I've seen so far indicate they are.

 

[MP22]

Don't know about the 3.9 lb. trigger....but everything else is a thumbs up....JMO.

 

[tomshilling]

Factory pull is 6.5 pounds...most claim closer to 7 pounds...

For a CC trigger pull, I hope for your sake you are never involved in a shooting, because any lawyer worth his salt will portray you as looking for an excuse to shoot someone and even installing a "hair trigger" on your own gun...

Stay safe, my friend!

 

[motomed]

Apex says the shield carry kit puts the trigger pull in mid 5 range. Not sure where the 3.9 is coming from.

I highly doubt the weight of the trigger pull would ever have any impact on a trial. I doubt anyone would ever even know unless you told them.... any documented cases of this ever being an issue?

 

[jfrey]

motomed,
If you put the whole kit in the Shield with the springs and so forth, they claim the pull will be around 5 1/2 pounds. If you only put the hard sear in the gun it comes closer to 4 pounds.

 

[motomed]

motomed,
If you put the whole kit in the Shield with the springs and so forth, they claim the pull will be around 5 1/2 pounds. If you only put the hard sear in the gun it comes closer to 4 pounds.

gotcha, thanks, have the kit on order, the whole thing will be going in!

 

[danysw]

I put the Apex hard sear in my Shield and then took it back out for the same reason. The trigger was very light and good but too light for a carry gun. A little polishing and a couple hundred rounds got mine just where I wanted it with the original sear. The Apex striker block is worth the effort, however. It took all the grittyness out of the trigger and smoothed things out a lot.

I did the same to my M&P 9 Full and 9C (Apex sears, springs and USB) but remove the Apex sear on the 9C because the trigger was too light for EDC just did a good polishing on the back of the stock sear and now is perfect.

 

[robkarrob]

In my Shield 40, I installed only the Apex sear and striker blocker. Per Apex if you buy their carry/duty kit, it comes with a stronger sear spring and stronger trigger spring, for a 5-6 pound pull. If you keep the stock Shield springs the pull would be 4-5 pounds.

I've got two different trigger pull weight scales. My stock Shield pull was 6 lbs 9 oz. I kept the stock Shield springs and my pull is now 4 lbs 4 oz. That is exactly where I wanted it. The break is all the way back and there is 3/8 inch take up until I start the sear pull. The sear pull is 1/8 inch with 1/32 inch of over travel. The reset from full over travel is 3/32. My trigger pull from start of sear pull to the over travel stop is half that of the stock Shield. A 4 pound pull is not unsafe, especially with 1/2 inch pull to break.

I keep reading that a carry gun needs a strong (heavy) trigger pull and a long pull. I think that is incorrect. A 4 pound trigger is not a "hair trigger". If you practice with the gun, you better know the trigger pull. I am talking about someone that follows all safe gun handling rules. Especially the finger off the trigger until sure of target and ready to fire.

I have a Ruger LC9. It has a 1 inch trigger pull at 8 pounds. It is no safer than my Shield. Because of the long heavy trigger pull, it is harder to get consistent groupings. I practice with the LC9, but can not get close grouping firing under rapid firing SD training. However I can with my Shield. If the LC9 had a similar trigger action as my Shield, I would bet the groupings would be similar. The LC9's so called safe CC trigger (50 state certified) is just bad.

So now you have to actually use the gun in a SD situation. I think you would rather be holding a gun that you know you can shoot better. My modified Shield trigger is better than the stock Shield trigger so you know which one I shoot better. Please don't say in a SD situation accuracy is not important. If that is correct why do you take your SD weapon to the range? For inaccuracy practice?

Did I open a can of worms with this post?

Apex trigger mods, LaserMax laser, Talon Grip.


Bob

 

[TRUST8383]

I think worrying about the trigger weight is urban myth.

The apex trigger actually made me much more accurate with the Shield.
I would worry more about being accurate and surviving a gun fight than some obscure prosecutor's portrayal of me as a gunslinger.

If you want to spin that angle, then one could argue that as a responsible gun owner, I invested time and money in training and improving my gun to make it as safe and as accurate as possible.

What's the difference between carrying a shield with a trigger job and a safety and say a 1911 with a crisp trigger cocked and locked?

To the OP. Congrats on the Shield. I have pretty much the same mods and I love it as a daily carry.

 

[WGSNewnan19]

a justifiable shooting is justifiable regardless of trigger weight. An unjustifiable shooting is still unjustifiable regardless of trigger weight. A negligent discharge because of faulty gunsmithing is a totally different story.
Before anyone chooses to argue the point - please provide any example where someone was convicted in a justifiable shooting soley on the fact that the weapon had a light trigger.

 

[SGT_Kramer]

WGSNewnan19 nailed it IMHO. If your in the right then it's not a issue. If you shoot somone by mistake then you could try to use the trigger as a defence but it's not going to work.

 

[jfrey]

Shootings aside, IMHO the Apex sear was just too light to my liking on a carry gun. I have light triggers on some of my 1911's but that is a different story.

 

[bharner]

Sweet little set up. I'm still saving my pennies for a Sheild but I do use the Apex RAM in my 9c and love the rather positive reset it provides.
I don't think I'd go under 5lb for CCW because I'm paranoid I'll end up with some shirt tucked in to my holster but even then I don't know if that would help. But I like the peace of mind

Tapatalk ate my spelling and grammar.

 

[ColbyBruce]

After handling a Shield, I put my name on a waiting list to buy two.

 

[Lost Lake]

I don't think grips, sights and a trigger job is all modded out....

I like a heavy trigger on a carry gun, light trigger on a target gun. I haven't been in a civilian gun fight, but I can tell you when the bullets start flying your finger is going to be twitchy and shaking on that trigger. If the Army had 3 pound triggers on M-16's half the guys in my unit would be dead from friendly fire. And that's what I'm afraid of in the civilian world too.