new smith 686 plus

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Hello everyone!
I purchased a new 686 plus about 3 months ago,probably have 800 rounds thru it. After shooting yesterday i was looking over the gun & it appears the barrel is kinda crooked with the frame(the body lines doent line up perfect etc..) I didnt notice this before,should i be concerened? Should i have a gun smith look at it?

Also i was thinking of having a High Vis front sight installed,anybody have any recomendations?
 
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Call Smith and Wesson for a call tag and send it back. It will either get fixed or they may ship you a new gun.
 
I would suggest that you have someone familiar with these revolvers take a look at it before contacting S&W. The underlug is not meant to contact the frame firmly and a small gap of 0.005 to 0.015 inch between the lug and frame is normal. If that's what you've noticed, it isn't anything to fuss about.

I suspect that if the lug actually did contact the frame, the effect on accuracy would be terrible because free floating barrels do NOT respond well to intermittent contact. Basically, without that gap the lug would vibrate against the frame and this could cause the barrel to NOT "ring" true. If you want to see the effect of intermittent contact on accuracy, try resting the barrel on a sandbag while shooting from a bench. What will happen is that your groups will double or triple in size. BTW, I've been there done that and resting these barrels on a sandbag results it groups that are NOT pretty.

Another possibility is that the barrel may not be mounted perfectly square in alignment with the top rib on the frame. This has become such a frequent complaint that I'm starting to suspect that S&W is intentionally "clocking" the barrels in order to have them shoot zeroed with the adjustable sight set with the rear blade centered for the windage adjustment. Clocking the barrel is a technique that dates back to the 1870's for zeroing fixed sights and they may be reviving this technique. The best way to test if the barrel is properly set for the sights is to center the rear sight blade and shoot it in single action from a benchrest at 25 yards. If the resulting group is centered within 2 inches of the sighting point, it's not worth bothering with because you'll have plenty of adjustment for windage on the rear sight. Note, best technique for benchrest shooting is to rest your hands on a sandbag and shoot carefully with the barrel free of any contact. Lay off on caffiene, have a decent meal of proteans and complex carbohydrates about 2 hours before the range session and with a bit of practice you should be able to see 2 to 3 inch groups.

One additional note, I've noticed that 38 spl. and 357 Magnums require different windage settings for me, why I'm not sure of but I suspect that it's a matter of recoil management. Basically, the heavier recoil of the Magnums causes me to "throw" the bullet a bit differently than the lighter recoiling 38. They also change a lot in elevation but that's to be expected when changing the velocity and energy levels this much.

Finally, when you have a question about issues such as this, PICTURES are quite helpful, it elminates so much of the guessing.
 
Sorry for not getting theses up sooner
 

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Scooter123.. I have a feeling your right with the barell clocking,thats my reason for thinking the whole thing is crooked,the lines on the sides arent matching up with the ones on the frame,its all just kinda off.
 
I recommend the SDM sight over the Hi Viz. I prefer the square top on the front blade. Much easier to get precise alignment for me anyway...
 
I have decided that it needs to go back to Smith,it just kills me to look at it now!
 
Question first, is the rear sight in the center or off to one size? Does the gun shoot point of aim? Does the front sight look right when looking thur the rear sight. If thr rear sight is center, and shoots at point of aim it may be turned to make up for the gun shooting off.
 
It actually shoots great,i moved the rear sight 3 clicks to the right cause i was shooting to the left a bit,The rear sight is in the center,the front sight seems lined up,but thats just using my eyes.
 
My 610-3 is just about identical to your 686 and when I was still shooting with the iron sights it shot to POI with only 2 clicks of windage dialed in. IMO that's basically nothing and it doesn't bother me a bit.

Quite simply, what you are seeing is completely normal and S&W won't do anything except test shoot it and send it back with the statement that it's within specification.

BTW, there are many who get all worked up over something like this. I'm not one of them, I buy my guns to shoot them, not go over with a fine tooth comb. If they function properly and are accurate, I'm satisfied.
 
barrel overtorqued

I had the same problem with a new 617 I sent it back and they replaced the frame.If the barrel was intensionally overtorqued to compensate for having to move the rear sight to far to one side then they should fix it right.I had a 971 rossi that the barrel was perfectly in line and the rear sight was in the center and it cost half as much as a 686.I'm sorry but there is no excuse for a gun like this leaving the factory.I have always liked S&W but because of things like this I chose to buy a new gp100.
 
I understand,i enjoy shooting it,just thought something was wrong with it,like the barrel moved or something.
 
There is something wrong with it,a $700 plus gun should not look like that.If I bought a new car and the steering was 1/4 turn off I would take it back and get it fixed.If people keep accepting sub standard products the manufactures will keep making them
 
There is something wrong with it,a $700 plus gun should not look like that.If I bought a new car and the steering was 1/4 turn off I would take it back and get it fixed.If people keep accepting sub standard products the manufactures will keep making them

Exactly! I happen to be a Mechanic :) I am shipping it back with a printed photo of the problem,if it doesnt get properly fixed its getting traded in.
Thanks for everybody's replies.
I am newer to shooting & love it,unfortunately i am in CA. where guns law sucks!
 
They will fix it. They fixed my 617 and more It was better all around when I got it back .they have very good C.S. I just do not understand why they let something like that out of the factory. Call them first and they will send you a shipping label.
 
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