(NEW TO ME) S&W mdl 669

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Recently made a trade that included an acquisition of a very nice S&W mdl 669 with two factory 12 round mags. No case and pre Novak sights but the gun is in very good condition despite a few minor scratches and knicks. Overall, it's in excellent shape and functionality is 100%. My total invest in it is $250 but I know it's worth a little more than that.

I would like to find out what the value is of this gun. The serial prefix is TAH which I believe puts it at mid 80s.....I think. Can anyone give me a rough estimate on what it's worth? Also, how much would it cost and what is involved in replacing the sights with Novaks?
 

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Both the front and rear of the slide will require machining for Novak sight installation.


You should be aware that your pistol falls within the serial number range of a recall -

RECALL: This warning is issued for Smith & Wesson 9mm Semiautomatic Pistols which were shipped from the factory between May 1, 1983 and February 26, 1986. Included are Models 439, 459, 469, 539, 559, 639, 659 and 669 but only with serial numbers in the following ranges:

A745000-A865000 and TAA0001-TAL9999

The pistols within the serial number ranges listed above must be inspected for function from the half-cock notch. The safety mechanism will function in a perfectly satisfactory manner in many of these pistols, as well as in all pistols with serial numbers outside these ranges and in all pistols shipped from the factory after February 26, 1986.

Every one of these models bearing a serial number within the ranges listed above should be carefully inspected by the owner for this special condition. To determine if your pistol has this condition, do the following:

1. Point the muzzle in a safe direction.
2. Completely unload the pistol. Check both the magazine and chamber to assure they are empty of live rounds.
3. With your finger off the trigger, operate the manual safety with the unloaded pistol fully cocked and fully uncocked so that you can recognize how the manual safety looks and feels when it is fully in the safe position. The hammer will fall from the fully cocked position into the "at rest" position when the manual safety is moved down toward a safe position. When you are thoroughly familiar with placing the manual safety fully in the safe position, place it up in the fire position.
4. With the manual safety in the fire position, place the hammer in the half-cock notch:

For the Model 439, 459, 539, 559, 639 and 659, put the hammer of your pistol in the half-cock notch by pulling the hammer to the rear slowly until you hear the first click and then releasing the hammer so that it catches between the full cock and the "at rest" position.

For the Model 469 and 669, put the hammer of your pistol in the half-cock notch by inserting an empty magazine and slowly pulling the trigger until you hear the first click and then releasing the trigger so that the hammer catches between the full cock and the "at rest" position.

5. With the hammer in the half-cock notch, push the manual safety down toward the safe position. If you can push the manual safety fully into the safe position and the hammer falls into the "at rest" position, your pistol does not require modification. If you cannot push the manual safety fully into the safe position or the hammer does not fall into the "at rest" position, your pistol is being recalled for modification free of charge.

Recalled pistols should be sent promptly to a Smith & Wesson Warranty Service Center for modification. Call 800-633-0164 for the name and location of the one nearest you or for answers to nay questions you may have. Law enforcement departments who have pistols, which exhibit this condition, should contact the Smith & Wesson Service Department to arrange for modifying the pistols.
 
Well....isn't that a fine how do you do?!
Guess I'll try out that function test but I did run 200 flawless rounds yesterday. Each fresh mag, I decocked the gun to do an initial DA fire. The gun functioned as it should have, but I will try that specific drill to determine if there is a problem.
 
Both the front and rear of the slide will require machining for Novak sight installation.


You should be aware that your pistol falls within the serial number range of a recall -

RECALL: This warning is issued for Smith & Wesson 9mm Semiautomatic Pistols which were shipped from the factory between May 1, 1983 and February 26, 1986. Included are Models 439, 459, 469, 539, 559, 639, 659 and 669 but only with serial numbers in the following ranges:

A745000-A865000 and TAA0001-TAL9999

The pistols within the serial number ranges listed above must be inspected for function from the half-cock notch. The safety mechanism will function in a perfectly satisfactory manner in many of these pistols, as well as in all pistols with serial numbers outside these ranges and in all pistols shipped from the factory after February 26, 1986.

Every one of these models bearing a serial number within the ranges listed above should be carefully inspected by the owner for this special condition. To determine if your pistol has this condition, do the following:

1. Point the muzzle in a safe direction.
2. Completely unload the pistol. Check both the magazine and chamber to assure they are empty of live rounds.
3. With your finger off the trigger, operate the manual safety with the unloaded pistol fully cocked and fully uncocked so that you can recognize how the manual safety looks and feels when it is fully in the safe position. The hammer will fall from the fully cocked position into the "at rest" position when the manual safety is moved down toward a safe position. When you are thoroughly familiar with placing the manual safety fully in the safe position, place it up in the fire position.
4. With the manual safety in the fire position, place the hammer in the half-cock notch:

For the Model 439, 459, 539, 559, 639 and 659, put the hammer of your pistol in the half-cock notch by pulling the hammer to the rear slowly until you hear the first click and then releasing the hammer so that it catches between the full cock and the "at rest" position.

For the Model 469 and 669, put the hammer of your pistol in the half-cock notch by inserting an empty magazine and slowly pulling the trigger until you hear the first click and then releasing the trigger so that the hammer catches between the full cock and the "at rest" position.

5. With the hammer in the half-cock notch, push the manual safety down toward the safe position. If you can push the manual safety fully into the safe position and the hammer falls into the "at rest" position, your pistol does not require modification. If you cannot push the manual safety fully into the safe position or the hammer does not fall into the "at rest" position, your pistol is being recalled for modification free of charge.

Recalled pistols should be sent promptly to a Smith & Wesson Warranty Service Center for modification. Call 800-633-0164 for the name and location of the one nearest you or for answers to nay questions you may have. Law enforcement departments who have pistols, which exhibit this condition, should contact the Smith & Wesson Service Department to arrange for modifying the pistols.

Yikes, my 639 failed the half-cock test. What are the chances that S&W will still fix the issue? Thanks for posting this recall info, I'm new around here and haven't heard about the recall before.
 
Yikes, my 639 failed the half-cock test. What are the chances that S&W will still fix the issue? Thanks for posting this recall info, I'm new around here and haven't heard about the recall before.

Call S&W - as it is a safety issue, they should send you a return label.
Frank Smith will do the same and may get to it sooner than the factory - LSG, Mfg|Gun Parts|Warranty|Gunsmithing
 
Recently made a trade that included an acquisition of a very nice S&W mdl 669 with two factory 12 round mags. No case and pre Novak sights but the gun is in very good condition despite a few minor scratches and knicks. Overall, it's in excellent shape and functionality is 100%. My total invest in it is $250 but I know it's worth a little more than that.

I would like to find out what the value is of this gun. The serial prefix is TAH which I believe puts it at mid 80s.....I think. Can anyone give me a rough estimate on what it's worth? Also, how much would it cost and what is involved in replacing the sights with Novaks?

I really like your 669. I hope to find one like it soon.
 
Weird to hear that - I'm pretty sure someone had that issue (might have been on a 469) fixed by the mothership within the last year and posted here about the excellent service and fast turnaround.
 
I was disappointed with their nonchalant attitude toward the whole thing. If it was once considered important enough to issue a recall then I would like a somewhat better explanation as to why they no longer feel that the repair is necessary.
 
I have a 669 that was also in the recall. I sent it back to S&W in Jan. of this year they had it 3 weeks fixed it no problems, no questions, no cost to me By the way I'm the original owner of mine & I love that gun it shoots any ammo I run through it without any issues ever. I'd call them again & don't take no for an answer just be polite Good Luck Mike
 
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I have a 669 that was also in the recall. I sent it back to S&W in Jan. of this year they had it 3 weeks fixed it no problems, no questions, no cost to me By the way I'm the original owner of mine & I love that gun it shoots any ammo I run through it without any issues ever. I'd call them again & don't take no for an answer just be polite Good Luck Mike

Just got off the phone with them again. Was again extremely polite and was told that no such recall exists. The gentleman asked where I learned of the recall and I told him S&W Forum to which he scoffed and said I received bad information and that this forum was in no way affiliated with Smith and Wesson. What is the deal? I was in no way rude or demanding, am I going crazy or does this not add up? Not sure what to do next.
 
I'd try calling another day. Someday you'll get the right person. I've called several times and got negative results, then tried again and got the "right" person.
 
Call Frank Smith - he will know about the recall. His business is an authorized S&W service center. You will actually be talking with the person fixing your pistol, not a S&W CS rep.
 
Call Frank Smith - he will know about the recall. His business is an authorized S&W service center. You will actually be talking with the person fixing your pistol, not a S&W CS rep.

Good idea. I will try him tomorrow. I still find it strange that some people have such great luck with this admittedly old recall while I can't seem to get any. I really appreciate all the help you guys on this forum provide to new guys like me. Thanks.
 
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