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I'm sure others have different experiences, but I would put a new $300 rifle (Savage, Ruger, Etc.) up against those older bolt guns we all salivate over, and I think I'd win.
New vs. Old
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CAJUNLAWYER
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I remember as a young lad that it would be great if the was some kind of map that put you on it as a moving dot so you could always see where you were-but I thought naw...that would be impossible. Now I have one in my truck and a portable one I can carry around with me. And don't get me started on the wonders of medicine.
And the ladies...oh my the ladies
And then there are constants...like the Saints
And the ladies...oh my the ladies
And then there are constants...like the Saints
Yea...I miss Pinto's and Gremlins.
Jeff423
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I can still remember the cars of the 50's. No seatbelts or airbags and steel dashboards. Gives me the creeps now to think about them.
taz666
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Recycling ... it's come a looooong way from the "olde" days and can improve even more.
Air travel is a pain in the rear. I do also remember that in 1966, when I was 12, very few people I knew had ever flown. Dad was born in 1920, traveled the South Pacific, thanks to Uncle Sam, and never stepped on a plane until 1978.
Calculators vs pencil and paper or slide rules.
I had two maiden Aunts who taught school. They wrote beautiful calligraphy with pens and inkwells. I remember the BIC pen for $0.19 was a game changer as a disposable, usable tool. It may have began the disposable era but it was cheap and handy.
I lost an Aunt and Uncle to an unmarked RR crossing before I was born.
Calculators vs pencil and paper or slide rules.
I had two maiden Aunts who taught school. They wrote beautiful calligraphy with pens and inkwells. I remember the BIC pen for $0.19 was a game changer as a disposable, usable tool. It may have began the disposable era but it was cheap and handy.
I lost an Aunt and Uncle to an unmarked RR crossing before I was born.
One quick thought!
I started playing with cars in the late 1950s. Also started to build my collection of tools to do the work.
Of my socket sets, ratchets and wrenches I bought all SK Wayne. Course a tool I paid $2.00 for then the newer one is now $14.
I still have them and when you compared them to the SK of today the difference in quality is very apparent. Stevie Wonder could see the difference. You can also tell the difference by just using the tools older Vs newer. Night and day difference!
I started playing with cars in the late 1950s. Also started to build my collection of tools to do the work.
Of my socket sets, ratchets and wrenches I bought all SK Wayne. Course a tool I paid $2.00 for then the newer one is now $14.
I still have them and when you compared them to the SK of today the difference in quality is very apparent. Stevie Wonder could see the difference. You can also tell the difference by just using the tools older Vs newer. Night and day difference!
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They installed the "low water" toilets in my apartment complex years ago.
I've lost track of how many plungers I've worn out.
I had a little black flip phone-met 95% of my needs. Had to give it up-"no longer supported. And it fell apart. Had a nice feature, I could delete individual calls. Can't do that on my new one.
I worked at a large limo company when the cars became computerized. There were a lot of problems arising from defective chips. One friend, has to take his SUV to the dealer's 3-4x a year. A defective component, wears out quickly, the dealer told him the defective batch is the only replacement available.
I have a number of appliances-toasters, griddles, etc-from the 50s, all work fine, easy to open up and reassemble, built like tanks. The new ones, stamped, pressed together, felly tinny.
When someone says they acquired a 5 screw, a "Pre-Model" , a "pre '64" we all go "Ooh and Aaah!"
I've lost track of how many plungers I've worn out.
I had a little black flip phone-met 95% of my needs. Had to give it up-"no longer supported. And it fell apart. Had a nice feature, I could delete individual calls. Can't do that on my new one.
I worked at a large limo company when the cars became computerized. There were a lot of problems arising from defective chips. One friend, has to take his SUV to the dealer's 3-4x a year. A defective component, wears out quickly, the dealer told him the defective batch is the only replacement available.
I have a number of appliances-toasters, griddles, etc-from the 50s, all work fine, easy to open up and reassemble, built like tanks. The new ones, stamped, pressed together, felly tinny.
When someone says they acquired a 5 screw, a "Pre-Model" , a "pre '64" we all go "Ooh and Aaah!"
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My dad (1902-1977) used to talk about taking a road trip. "It wasn't if you were going to have a flat,tire it was how many you would have before reaching your destination".
https://youtu.be/4h9l2ipiKf4?si=NyFT1ZHVqR_VXEKq
This guy used to be an armorer for S&W and seems to dismiss the good old days as myth. The one big exception would be the internal lock on certain revolvers. I do not believe it would cause problems, I just hate what it stands for. Hence why I bought a 686-3, though I am not under the illusion that a 686-6 would have a trigger snap due to MIM parts or anything silly like that.
This guy used to be an armorer for S&W and seems to dismiss the good old days as myth. The one big exception would be the internal lock on certain revolvers. I do not believe it would cause problems, I just hate what it stands for. Hence why I bought a 686-3, though I am not under the illusion that a 686-6 would have a trigger snap due to MIM parts or anything silly like that.
taz666
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This reminded me of a vacation trip that took us through Missouri in late summer circa "60's. Hyway dept in that state thought it a good idea to use rough granite stone as shoulder material. When people used the shoulder and reentered traffic they'd bring out some of the stone onto the hyway. I think my dad found everyone of 'em. Flat tire after flat tire till we hit Illinois.
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My first socket set was also SK Wayne. Still using it!
Old vs. new...where to start? Almost everything in our daily lives represents a tremendous improvement over "the good old days"...but the key word there is "almost"...
Yeah, our cars are more reliable, our firearms more accurate, our homes more functional and livable, etc....but...
We seem to have lost the civility, the courtesy, the culture, the propriety and sense of decorum, that used to be hallmarks of our society. People of all stripes say and do things in public these days that would have been unthinkable only a couple of decades ago. Vulgar, crude language and conduct seems to be the norm, even among public figures and government officials. Violent outbursts are common in public. Respect for the law, at all levels, across our society, is on the decline.
I'm not normally negative, and I hate to come off that way, but for all our technological advances, I feel like we're watching American society unravel and disintegrate...
Yeah, our cars are more reliable, our firearms more accurate, our homes more functional and livable, etc....but...
We seem to have lost the civility, the courtesy, the culture, the propriety and sense of decorum, that used to be hallmarks of our society. People of all stripes say and do things in public these days that would have been unthinkable only a couple of decades ago. Vulgar, crude language and conduct seems to be the norm, even among public figures and government officials. Violent outbursts are common in public. Respect for the law, at all levels, across our society, is on the decline.
I'm not normally negative, and I hate to come off that way, but for all our technological advances, I feel like we're watching American society unravel and disintegrate...
DWalt
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When I was growing up, all B&W TV sets used tubes, and they often burned out. My father had a tube tester and kept a boxful of the various tube sizes with it. When the TV quit working, his routine would be to remove all the tubes from the set and test every one to determine which tube went bad, then replace it.That happened three or four times a year. The first big screen (50”) plasma TV I bought in 2006, on sale for around $800, lasted until 2021, never went out until then. Replaced by a 55” Vizio from Walmart, for around $400. Never had a problem with it so far either. At least in consumer electronics, newer is unarguably far better than old.
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Most of my tools were Snap On, Craftsman and MAC. Gave just about all of them to son and grandson. Hit pawn shops to buy used tools now. Craftsman is made in china and the others are way to expensive for just tinkering.
Agree everything vehicle related is better now EXCEPT for all the down right STUPID things on vehicles these days. Idle stop is worst. Can’t post what I’d do to the idiot that came up with it. Also way to many just downright DUMB buttons/ controls that will only lead to more failures of them resulting in having to go to the dealer for fixes.
Daughter and is Med. Surg. RN, husband a surgeon and medicine, surgical procedures and Most hospital are way better than 20 years ago.
Grocery stores have way more choices too, way to easy to get fat,lol.
Agree everything vehicle related is better now EXCEPT for all the down right STUPID things on vehicles these days. Idle stop is worst. Can’t post what I’d do to the idiot that came up with it. Also way to many just downright DUMB buttons/ controls that will only lead to more failures of them resulting in having to go to the dealer for fixes.
Daughter and is Med. Surg. RN, husband a surgeon and medicine, surgical procedures and Most hospital are way better than 20 years ago.
Grocery stores have way more choices too, way to easy to get fat,lol.
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Election Day of the past versus Election Season of today. Somehow we were able to count paper ballots cast on one day in hours, now it takes computers and tabulators days, if not weeks. Progress?
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Firearms...yep rifles today are definitely more accurate and fantastic plastics shoot good...we have some good ammo these days and yeah we have better cars. and boy you can sure see more of the female form...but... The old handmade rifles will still be performing as well as they did before...and will retain their value and appreciate in same for years to come...whereas the new ones will get replaced by more better ones. ..and the old ammo esp 22s generally worked...and if you have old stuff it still works quality on ammo these days is somewhay suspect. The newer cars sure do last longer..****n better usually more efficient...my 50
Studebaker got 26 MPG though. And with todays cars...someday down the line you won't be able to find discontinued parts for...modern electronics are so often "improved" there will come that day...improved out of pars. And while I appreciate the female form and am not a prude...I wish they still had some decency to keep things a bit more to the imagination. And women's sports....should be for women...not for men who think they should be women....or just wanna be...But In some way I could be called a luddite.....the new country music sucks
Studebaker got 26 MPG though. And with todays cars...someday down the line you won't be able to find discontinued parts for...modern electronics are so often "improved" there will come that day...improved out of pars. And while I appreciate the female form and am not a prude...I wish they still had some decency to keep things a bit more to the imagination. And women's sports....should be for women...not for men who think they should be women....or just wanna be...But In some way I could be called a luddite.....the new country music sucks
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The Good Old Days were either:
1. Before you were born
2. You were too young to remember or appreciate them.
Don't recall any flats from my youth and since the drivers I was with were either my mother or grandmother a flat would have been a bit more calamitous.
Many older items-automobiles, appliances, etc. were designed to be repaired, hence their inner workings were more accessible.
I can still see the radio/TV tube testers with their charts listing the various manufacturers' designations. The radio industry decided early on that each tube would have a unique base. They were a good example of modular design and construction.
In firearms the biggest advancements have been in investment casting-Ruger, e.g., use of stainless steel then polymers. The Dan Wesson revolver with its interchangeable barrels. Which is an update of the Merwin and Hulburt.
If newer is better why are the M1911 and Colt SAA design still so popular ?
1. Before you were born
2. You were too young to remember or appreciate them.
Don't recall any flats from my youth and since the drivers I was with were either my mother or grandmother a flat would have been a bit more calamitous.
Many older items-automobiles, appliances, etc. were designed to be repaired, hence their inner workings were more accessible.
I can still see the radio/TV tube testers with their charts listing the various manufacturers' designations. The radio industry decided early on that each tube would have a unique base. They were a good example of modular design and construction.
In firearms the biggest advancements have been in investment casting-Ruger, e.g., use of stainless steel then polymers. The Dan Wesson revolver with its interchangeable barrels. Which is an update of the Merwin and Hulburt.
If newer is better why are the M1911 and Colt SAA design still so popular ?
Old vs. new...where to start? Almost everything in our daily lives represents a tremendous improvement over "the good old days"...but the key word there is "almost"...
Yeah, our cars are more reliable, our firearms more accurate, our homes more functional and livable, etc....but...
We seem to have lost the civility, the courtesy, the culture, the propriety and sense of decorum, that used to be hallmarks of our society. People of all stripes say and do things in public these days that would have been unthinkable only a couple of decades ago. Vulgar, crude language and conduct seems to be the norm, even among public figures and government officials. Violent outbursts are common in public. Respect for the law, at all levels, across our society, is on the decline.
I'm not normally negative, and I hate to come off that way, but for all our technological advances, I feel like we're watching American society unravel and disintegrate...
I don’t think you’re being negative. Just factual. Sometimes the truth hurts.
Ivan the Butcher
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My son is the lead Blackhawk mechanic for Carlson. He prefers tools from the 60's if he can find them. Of the modern brands he likes Snap-on and Mac. (I always had good luck with S-K)
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