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The JFK assassination was the result of a conspiracy among the CIA, the Mafia, and Howard Hughes.

Howard Hughes had a long-standing feud with the Kennedys, dating all the way back to old Joe Kennedy's forays into bootlegging and movie-making.

The Mafia despised JFK and his brother, Bobby. JFK because he wimped out on the Bay of Pigs invasion by refusing to authorize more air support, causing the invasion to fail. The Mafia had millions of dollars invested in Cuban casinos/resorts. When Castro took over, he "nationalized" all the casinos, depriving the Mafia of millions of dollars a day in profits. Mafia leaders, especially Carlos Marcello of New Orleans, believed that if Castro could be kicked out, they could reclaim their casinos and their profits from gambling and prostitution in Cuba.

They hated Bobby Kennedy because of his ongoing attempts to put Jimmy Hoffa in prison for illegal union practices and various forms of fraud. Hoffa generated a lot of revenue for organized crime bosses.

The Mafia had actually helped JFK in the election, especially in Virginia and Illinois. They felt betrayed when JFK turned Bobby loose on them again.

The CIA plotted against Kennedy after the failed Bay of Pigs. Kennedy began closing their training camps along the Alabama and Florida coasts and seizing all the CIA's arms, ammunition, and other local assets.

The Mafia funneled funds to the CIA in secret. Howard Hughes reportedly donated $250K towards the assassination through his mob contacts. Hughes was losing his mind and was in seclusion 99% of the time, but he still harbored his Kennedy hatred.

J. Edgar Hoover had wiretaps and recording devices in major mob hangouts. He heard rumors of the planned assassination, but deliberately did not warn the Kennedys and the Secret Service.

Bobby Kennedy did not try to indict mob leaders for the assassination because he'd found out that his father had been financing illegal high-interest loans through the Teamsters for decades, earning millions in tax-free income that was hidden in approximately 96 safe deposit boxes in Boston banks. He was warned by Hoffa's attorney that this information would be made public if he tried to tie organized crime bosses to his brother's assassination.

The men who killed Kennedy were a a French ex-paramilitary guy who shot from the book depository and a CIA contract employee who fired from the grassy knoll.

It was never planned that Oswald would even be arrested. He was to be killed by J. D. Tippit, a Dallas cop tied to right wing groups and the KKK. In the early sixties, the Dallas PD was full of right wing John Birchers and KKK members...Tippit was just the tip of the iceberg. And a lot of them hung out at Jack Ruby's strip club. Ruby was basically just a two-bit loan shark, but liked to brag about his mob "connections" and hang out with cops. But Oswald managed to kill Tippit instead. Ruby was forced to kill Oswald by any means possible because the Mafia and CIA threatened to kill his entire family if he didn't. Ruby was as much of a patsy as Oswald. He died in prison without ever talking.

In the film JFK, Clay Shaw and David Ferrie are portrayed as playing a part in the plot. They may have been involved on the fringe, gun running and stuff like that, but they weren't big players. Ferrie really was crazy. The film did get it right about Oswald being more or less recruited by Guy Bannister, though. Bannister had suffered four previous heart attacks. He died in 1964, supposedly of his fifth attack, but it was rumored that the CIA murdered him with an overdose of digitalis.

Will we ever know the truth? I doubt it. Only a handful of men knew the truth, and I think all of them are dead now. All the evidence is there, but no one's ever really put it together.

Years ago, there was a series that ran on TV, maybe the History Channel, maybe Discovery Channel, can't remember. The title of it is The Men Who Killed Kennedy. It ran for 13 episodes, and if I remember correctly, it was all documentary film and commentary...none of this play acting you see on today's historical "documentaries".

Anyway, in the thirteenth and final chapter, LBJ (who did not like the Kennedys at all) was the one who was blamed for giving the final go ahead for the assassination. This episode resulted in several lawsuits.

I don't know if there was any monetary resolution to the suits, but the thirteenth episode was pulled from all distribution outlets and never seen again. The series is still available on DVD...but without the LBJ episode. Try to find it...and good luck to you.

That's my take on the JFK assassination. I love this stuff. Does it sound improbable? Maybe so. Know what sounds improbable to me? A dweeb like Oswald making those shots with a mail order twelve-dollar bolt action piece of junk rifle from Klein's.

All well organized, believable and mostly factual while some is theory, I am in agreement 90+%. Howard Hughes ? I don't know, no matter how loony he became, but ask your self one question ...

WHO HAD THE MOST TO GAIN by JFK's death ?

This was no $12 rifle "hit" by the lone wacko gunman patsy of a fall guy. This was professionally organized at the highest levels. So many people give undue praise to the Mafia or "organized crime". There isn't one of them that could be the CEO or a major corporation or a rocket scientist ... which it would have taken to organize this execution. And think how good it had to be. They could not take a chance to hit Jackie or the entire free world would have been up in arms to have the First Lady and devout Catholic mother of two children executed on International TV.

Yes, I'm a conspiracy theorist on this. While JFK would never have been President without Frank & the boys pulling strings through Papa Joe (who played Frank like an old fiddle) in Chicago (where the phrase "vote early and vote often" originated), you have to admit when JFK got into office he was on the right track or doing a excellent imitation of being on the right track. Kennedy didn't cause the mob to lose $ in Cuba it was the Fidel's revolution that did that.

The mob had the right to expect a free ride because of favors given but it's JOE they would have taken for a ride, I think.

J. Edgar, could not stand anyone who tried to exert power over him or the FBI. There were a rumors that he left the "boys" alone because they had some serious blackmail on him, like him in a dress or some such. More stuff that can never be proven.

All these years later, old nobody, never accomplished anything or confirmed has-beens, near ready to die, step up to take responsibility for the most accurately organized professional "hit" in US History, in front of 100,000s of people present and another few million on TV and a few more 100s of millions who have watched, rewatched, analyzed, theorized, applied all sorts of "flexible" forensic science (I love that magic bullet theory). I'm no ballistics genius but that one is laughable.

It was no secret that LBJ hated JFK. LBJ was insulted and humiliated to be JFK's junior officer. LBJ was one of the deeply vested, tenured "good ole boys". JFK was just a New England snotty college punk and rich boot-legger's son. Nothing else. He was convinced to be JFK's running mate for "insurance" purposes.

All that happened and / or why it happened, how was or was not involved and all HALF CENTURY of hype that goes with it, is one of the biggest travesties in U.S. History. Nothing anyone should be proud of.

For 1000s of years, politics, money and power have tried (and succeeded at different times) to control most of the known world. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I remembered at 9 years old, it was like the end of the world. You could hear people crying and wailing for blocks around. Walking out in the street like zombies looking up at the night sky fearing the next thing would be a nuclear attack.

My father, a battle hardened, decorated WWII veteran cried. The only time I've ever seen that man cry in his entire life. He said, "they didn't kill the President, they didn't kill only one man ... they just killed everything that every American soldier ever fought to protect. They killed the U.S.A. and everything it stands for".

Et tu Brute ?

 

[HOUSTON RICK]

Well, after all this time, I have to confess...

 

[DWalt]

There were several ballistics mysteries never explained, at least to my knowledge. In addition to the "magic bullet" there was the strange mismatch between the bullets and the fired cases in Oswald's revolver, the inability to determine where the 6.5 Carcano ammunition ammo came from (not to mention that it was U. S. made, by Western, under a special government order after WWII), and the fact that it is virtually certain that Oswald never attempted to sight in the Carcano after he allegedly received it. Regarding the 6.5 ammunition, I once had a long conversation with a retired FBI special agent who was in the Dallas FBI office at the time of the assassination, and who was at Parkland Hospital when Kennedy died (he was the father of a friend, now deceased). He would never discuss what he knew about the case, even with his son, but he did tell me that the FBI did conduct an intensive investigation about the source of the ammunition, and drew a blank. And of course, that is entirely possible, and not necessarily evidence of a conspiracy.

 

[JSR III]

Let's see, assassination in Texas and a Texan becomes president, the motorcade route is changed at the last minute to turn off Main Street and head down Elm (under the book depository windows), the supposed shooter is gunned down at the police station by a local strip club owner with possible underworld ties, he then dies in jail before having a chance to talk.

I don't see any cause to think conspiracy here.

 

[Old TexMex]

The Zapruder films show the Presidents head and shoulders move, the First Lady react, and then at least a second later, the Presidents head explodes. Any view of that footage shows more than one round, more than one hit, at an interval.
But we see video all the time now that is ignored or denied, often within days. "What difference, at this point, does it make?" comes to mind.


What difference, indeed.

 

[Watchdog]

The Zapruder films show the Presidents head and shoulders move, the First Lady react, and then at least a second later, the Presidents head explodes. Any view of that footage shows more than one round, more than one hit, at an interval.

Well, there was never any doubt that there were multiple shots fired. What's still being argued today is the direction the shots came from. The Warren Commission wanted us to believe that all shots came from the rear, while visual evidence seems to indicate a shot or shots came from the front as well.

There was an interesting (but mostly obscure) little film that came out in 1984. It was called Flashpoint, and starred Treat Williams and Kris Kristofferson as border patrol agents. They accidently stumble across a wrecked jeep buried in the desert. In the jeep are a skeleton, a scoped rifle, and a box full of cash.

The film was really pretty good, but sort of died at the box office.

 

[cowart]

The Zapruder films show the Presidents head and shoulders move, the First Lady react, and then at least a second later, the Presidents head explodes. Any view of that footage shows more than one round, more than one hit, at an interval.

There was little mystery about that after copies of the autopsy photos were obtained in 1991. The first shot went through the neck, the second shot was not a hit, the third shot was the head shot.

One thing that is seldom mentioned now is that the neck shot probably would have eventually been fatal also.

JFK Lancer: Autopsy Photos

 

[Old TexMex]

Well, there was never any doubt that there were multiple shots fired. What's still being argued today is the direction the shots came from. The Warren Commission wanted us to believe that all shots came from the rear, while visual evidence seems to indicate a shot or shots came from the front as well.

There was an interesting (but mostly obscure) little film that came out in 1984. It was called Flashpoint, and starred Treat Williams and Kris Kristofferson as border patrol agents. They accidently stumble across a wrecked jeep buried in the desert. In the jeep are a skeleton, a scoped rifle, and a box full of cash.

The film was really pretty good, but sort of died at the box office.

That's right, I failed to note that the film appears to show the effect of the hits as being from very different directions.

 

[Watchdog]

It was no secret that LBJ hated JFK. LBJ was insulted and humiliated to be JFK's junior officer. LBJ was one of the deeply vested, tenured "good ole boys". JFK was just a New England snotty college punk and rich boot-legger's son. Nothing else. He was convinced to be JFK's running mate for "insurance" purposes.

Agreed. And I believe LBJ and Hoover were in cahoots together to some degree. Both of them had many reasons to hate the Kennedys, Bobby in particular. It's interesting to me that LBJ outlived Jack and Bobby. And also interesting that LBJ continued the Vietnam War, whereas Bobby Kennedy was determined to bring it to an end if he'd been elected president in '68. And there's no doubt in my mind he'd have received the nomination and been elected. He'd have soundly thrashed Richard Nixon.

I'm no conspiracy theorist, nor am I someone who sees boogey men lurking behind every bush. I simply don't believe the whole "lone gunman" scenario. There are just too many coincidences and too many players whose paths crossed.

I think John Kennedy was doomed after the Bay of Pigs. It was just a matter of time. He had angered too many of the wrong people at the wrong time.

I've tried to read the book by Jim Marrs, Crossfire, The Plot That Killed Kennedy...been trying to read it for years, but it's back to gathering dust on my bookshelves for a while. It's just so detailed and full of so much weirdness, that I haven't been able to plow through the whole thing yet.

I'm hoping I'll still be around in 2017, just to see what other things might be divulged from the hidden archives. If they haven't already been destroyed.

I wonder if the "Pristine Bullet" is still preserved as evidence. I wonder what the results might be if DNA tests were performed on it now? Would it show traces of Kennedy DNA, or would it be shown to have never been in contact with his body.

Worms will be crawling out of this can for generations to come.

 

[policerevolvercollector]

The JFK assassination was the result of a conspiracy among the CIA, the Mafia, and Howard Hughes.

Howard Hughes had a long-standing feud with the Kennedys, dating all the way back to old Joe Kennedy's forays into bootlegging and movie-making.

The Mafia despised JFK and his brother, Bobby. JFK because he wimped out on the Bay of Pigs invasion by refusing to authorize more air support, causing the invasion to fail. The Mafia had millions of dollars invested in Cuban casinos/resorts. When Castro took over, he "nationalized" all the casinos, depriving the Mafia of millions of dollars a day in profits. Mafia leaders, especially Carlos Marcello of New Orleans, believed that if Castro could be kicked out, they could reclaim their casinos and their profits from gambling and prostitution in Cuba.

They hated Bobby Kennedy because of his ongoing attempts to put Jimmy Hoffa in prison for illegal union practices and various forms of fraud. Hoffa generated a lot of revenue for organized crime bosses.

The Mafia had actually helped JFK in the election, especially in Virginia and Illinois. They felt betrayed when JFK turned Bobby loose on them again.

The CIA plotted against Kennedy after the failed Bay of Pigs. Kennedy began closing their training camps along the Alabama and Florida coasts and seizing all the CIA's arms, ammunition, and other local assets.

The Mafia funneled funds to the CIA in secret. Howard Hughes reportedly donated $250K towards the assassination through his mob contacts. Hughes was losing his mind and was in seclusion 99% of the time, but he still harbored his Kennedy hatred.

J. Edgar Hoover had wiretaps and recording devices in major mob hangouts. He heard rumors of the planned assassination, but deliberately did not warn the Kennedys and the Secret Service.

Bobby Kennedy did not try to indict mob leaders for the assassination because he'd found out that his father had been financing illegal high-interest loans through the Teamsters for decades, earning millions in tax-free income that was hidden in approximately 96 safe deposit boxes in Boston banks. He was warned by Hoffa's attorney that this information would be made public if he tried to tie organized crime bosses to his brother's assassination.

The men who killed Kennedy were a a French ex-paramilitary guy who shot from the book depository and a CIA contract employee who fired from the grassy knoll.

It was never planned that Oswald would even be arrested. He was to be killed by J. D. Tippit, a Dallas cop tied to right wing groups and the KKK. In the early sixties, the Dallas PD was full of right wing John Birchers and KKK members...Tippit was just the tip of the iceberg. And a lot of them hung out at Jack Ruby's strip club. Ruby was basically just a two-bit loan shark, but liked to brag about his mob "connections" and hang out with cops. But Oswald managed to kill Tippit instead. Ruby was forced to kill Oswald by any means possible because the Mafia and CIA threatened to kill his entire family if he didn't. Ruby was as much of a patsy as Oswald. He died in prison without ever talking.

In the film JFK, Clay Shaw and David Ferrie are portrayed as playing a part in the plot. They may have been involved on the fringe, gun running and stuff like that, but they weren't big players. Ferrie really was crazy. The film did get it right about Oswald being more or less recruited by Guy Bannister, though. Bannister had suffered four previous heart attacks. He died in 1964, supposedly of his fifth attack, but it was rumored that the CIA murdered him with an overdose of digitalis.

Will we ever know the truth? I doubt it. Only a handful of men knew the truth, and I think all of them are dead now. All the evidence is there, but no one's ever really put it together.

Years ago, there was a series that ran on TV, maybe the History Channel, maybe Discovery Channel, can't remember. The title of it is The Men Who Killed Kennedy. It ran for 13 episodes, and if I remember correctly, it was all documentary film and commentary...none of this play acting you see on today's historical "documentaries".

Anyway, in the thirteenth and final chapter, LBJ (who did not like the Kennedys at all) was the one who was blamed for giving the final go ahead for the assassination. This episode resulted in several lawsuits.

I don't know if there was any monetary resolution to the suits, but the thirteenth episode was pulled from all distribution outlets and never seen again. The series is still available on DVD...but without the LBJ episode. Try to find it...and good luck to you.

That's my take on the JFK assassination. I love this stuff. Does it sound improbable? Maybe so. Know what sounds improbable to me? A dweeb like Oswald making those shots with a mail order twelve-dollar bolt action piece of junk rifle from Klein's.

Just remember the old La Cosa Nostra adage: If you cut the head off, the body will die.