NIB 65-3 3" trade value?

[Nevadadvx]

A local guy has this for trade only and says it is from 1984. He refuses to sell outright and wont give a trade value. I have a couple of different firearms I know the value of I would consider giving up for it, but don't want to insult him or burn myself. Just want to be fair. Thanks for any help

 

[black1970]

I don't believe 400 trade value would be out of line. But would be in your favor.

 

[Zipdog]

I'm not sure it is New In Box. Hard to tell.

 

[Exiled Cheesehead]

What I'd Pay For It = Trade Value

The way I determine "trade value" is what price would I be willing to pay to own it. With that in mind, if this model 65 with the desirable 3" barrel is truly NIB, then I would pay up to $850 for it. Then I would determine what I have for trade and the going price for such an item and then I would know if I can do an even up trade or a trade+cash, from me to him or vice versa.

If you'd be willing to only pay up to another number, say $650, to own it outright, then your trade value would be that and is different than mine. Then it comes down to whether both parties feel each item is being accurately priced, in terms of trade value. Only you and the other party in a trade can determine where you need to meet to make both parties happy in such a deal.

 

[gr7070]

I'm not sure it is New In Box. Hard to tell.

It is almost certainly *not* NIB. It might be LNIB. Far too many don't understand what NIB means.

 

[Nevadadvx]

It is almost certainly *not* NIB. It might be LNIB. Far too many don't understand what NIB means.

I tend to agree. The box is somewhat rough, and there appears to be a feint turn line. Plus the right side of the barrel looks to have fine scratches, although they aren't very clear pics. He is advertising it as NIB and never even loaded. But people can say anything. I will approach it as LNIB.

edit: Here is another pic he sent....

 

[Double-O-Dave]

Gosh, the prices on Model 65s are all over the place. I've seen some cases where they were as low as $350.00, and in the $650.00+ range. They are very desirable. If it were me, I'd have to have more information a price range from the seller, or some idea of trade value. Otherwise, you're not only spinning your wheels, but you are at a distinct disadvantage. Have you asked him what his trade interests are? Maybe that would help you get some idea of what his interests are, and what kind of price range you're dealing with.

Good luck,

Dave

 

[gr7070]

I tend to agree.

New in box means exactly that, *new*. It's not new. It's used! By definition alone it's not NIB.

 

[Nevadadvx]

New in box means exactly that, *new*. It's not new. It's used! By definition alone it's not NIB.

Curious, how are you so certain it has been fired?

 

[Nevadadvx]

Gosh, the prices on Model 65s are all over the place. I've seen some cases where they were as low as $350.00, and in the $650.00+ range. They are very desirable. If it were me, I'd have to have more information a price range from the seller, or some idea of trade value. Otherwise, you're not only spinning your wheels, but you are at a distinct disadvantage. Have you asked him what his trade interests are? Maybe that would help you get some idea of what his interests are, and what kind of price range you're dealing with.

Good luck,

Dave

I did ask him what his interests are, and he just said all firearms. Very vague. I have a Walther PPQ I may toss at him and see what he says. Not sure yet. Its tough dealing with guys like this.

 

[JohnRippert]

Most of the revolver seems pretty good but it looks to me like the right side of the barrel has some issues, as stated above. 3 inch M65's are hot these days but $500 in trade value would not be too far off IMO.

 

[gr7070]

Curious, how are you so certain it has been fired?

I'm not, and it doesn't matter. It's not new, thus again, by definition, it is used. Used meaning not new.

If a product has been purchased and taken out of the store it's used.

Not that it matters, but a gun doesn't have to be fired to be used. One could carry a gun for decades and never fire it. or it could sit in a safe only touched once to place it into a safe. It's still used. Although that last example one could argue NIB applies.

 

[KEN L]

Most of the revolver seems pretty good but it looks to me like the right side of the barrel has some issues, as stated above. 3 inch M65's are hot these days but $500 in trade value would not be too far off IMO.

What he said, maybe even $550, but that's just me. It is a very desirable variation.

 

[gr7070]

Its tough dealing with guys like this.

I'd offer him a gun on the very low side of the value, far beneath it.

Not to take advantage, but this guy has offered no help to you in determining what value he places on the gun. So in order for you to find out his value you don't want offer something above his value, if so you just lost out.

So you need to start low and work up to something he feels is similar value.

This could even be a tactic of his to get over value for it. It's possible you offer something more than he would have asked for.

 

[Double-O-Dave]

I did ask him what his interests are, and he just said all firearms. Very vague. I have a Walther PPQ I may toss at him and see what he says. Not sure yet. Its tough dealing with guys like this.

I hate dealing with guys like this. I think you should be prepared to be disappointed. I don't know if you've ever owned one, but the 3.0 inch barreled K-frames are excellent. I'm lucky enough to own a Model 64-3, 13-3, and a 65-3 all with 3.0 inch long barrels. They are great handling revolvers. If it were me, I'd make him what you believe is a fair offer and be prepared to walk away if need be. This kind of guy can really make you burn the BTUs over nothing.

Good luck,

Dave

 

[paragain]

Paid $500.00 for mine used, no box or papers but in great condition and a wonderful addition to my collection.

 

[spad124]

Sounds like he's playing hide the ball and wants to find a "buyer" who is willing to bid against themselves. I'd figure out what I was willing to pay and then offer a gun that was a little below that value. I'd also be prepared to add a few items- ammo, etc. to increase my value.

 

[DocB]

This guy sounds like a pain in the a** and you're probably not going to get too far dealing with him. One of those who sounds like he wants to come out way on top, and a trade is the way to go. The M65 is nothing special. The 3 inch barrel sort of is. To me, the size and weight of the barrel is a big negative. . .I don't like the super heavy barrel with fixed sights. Now, if it was a Model 66, I'd be jumping through hoops trying to get my hands on it.

 

[Narragansett]

I bought the first privately owned model 65 in RI from the distributor. They went to law enforcement first. New was 135.00. Just loved that gun. Like so many others, why did I ever get rid of it

 

[Camster]

Sounds too much like the characters on "American Pickers".No deal will strike them as enough...or it's a guy committed to coming out on top of the swap,trying to be clever..
I'm inclined to say that his gun is unfired.I'm also inclined to say that plenty of unfired guns pick up handling marks after thirty years,so NIB,etc.etc. gets to be a game of words or semantics.
Value your trade gun,value his,and the deal flies..or it doesn't.Whatever it is,it doesn't need a huge dialogue to go along with it.