Nikon P-223 - 3x32 or 3-9x40??
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I just bought the P-223 and P-series mounts for my Sport. Haven't tried them yet but glad to see the comments you received.
For those looking at the P-223 3x32 and interested in a QD mount....the "UTG QD 1" Scope Rings Offset Mount w/ 2 Picatinny Slots - M1S35070R2" works perfect with the P-223. Add a 1/2" riser under it and it will clear a Magpul MBUS flip up sight just fine and allows you to get the correct amount of eye relief.
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How is the repeatability with those QD rings. I have found the only reason to have QD rings is if I am going to be removing and then remounting my scope. If I'm doing this I need to have previous zero repatability. The only mounts I have been able to do this with our Larue's QD Mounts. It would be great some have a much less expensive option. I look forwar dot hearing what you think.
How is the repeatability with those QD rings. I have found the only reason to have QD rings is if I am going to be removing and then remounting my scope. If I'm doing this I need to have previous zero repatability. The only mounts I have been able to do this with our Larue's QD Mounts. It would be great some have a much less expensive option. I look forwar dot hearing what you think.
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Different model but hey... whats another pic 
Love the offset iron sights and the Nikon mount is worth the $$. This is 2X7X32 and I love it.
Love the offset iron sights and the Nikon mount is worth the $$. This is 2X7X32 and I love it.
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Same here, just picked up an M-223 2-8x with the M223 rings, but will probably look at some QR solution in the near future. I expect my Micro to be on the rails 85% time, to be honest. Switching out is not so much a speed thing as a repeatable zero desire. Larue of course is always recommended, but I too would like to find a slight less costly option, if it exists
.Here's a quick mount job, will need some tweaking I'm sure, just wanted to get it on the upper & make sure the mount would work out ok in the meantime...
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They are new to me as well. If the weather holds, I hope to make it to the range this weekend to get it sighted back in after the mount and forearm changes I've done. I will be testing removing the mount to shot iron sights, then reattaching to check zero. With luck I'll be able to answer the repeatability question this weekend.
I looked at Larue as well, but there wasn't an option that I could find that would work with the short Nikon P223 scope.
I looked at Larue as well, but there wasn't an option that I could find that would work with the short Nikon P223 scope.
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Flip the mount around on the reciever. The offset mount is designed to push the optic forward inorder to give the shooter proper eye relief. (never mind.. forget I mentioned it)
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I BOUGHT THE STRAIGHT 3X ON A WHIM, VIA EBAY. IT WAS REALLY CHEAP. I SHOULD SAY INEXPENSIVE. BECAUSE IT'S NOT CHEAPLY MADE. IT'S REALLY QUITE NICE. SERVES IT'S PURPOSE WELL. HOLDS ZERO, FAST ON TARGET, FAIRLY SMALL, CLEAR OPTICS . I PAID $75 DELIVERED. WORTH EVERY PENNY. JP
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With that mount, if he turns it around, it will be much too far away for proper eye relief.
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I was thinking the same thing, every time I see that mount it's reversed from above. But, that scope has so little room on the tubes it might not work the other way around very well either...
EDIT - Oops, already mentioned. Guess I should read to the end of the thread first lol...
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What is the make of that mount?
For all my scopes, even if the rear sight were removed I don't think I could position it right.
For all my scopes, even if the rear sight were removed I don't think I could position it right.
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Chuchaco, what kind of accuracy are you talking about. I don't think a 15 sport will shoot one hole at 200 yards, but there are plenty of rifles that will. If you get the accuracy bug and really go after it, the 4X12 is not enough. You have to be able to see your bullet hole in the target at 200 yards, or else walk yourself to death looking to see where you are hitting. It would drastically limit your learning how to dope the wind. A serious trigger upgrade is just as important as a good scope. Figure on a good rest. Are you a reloader? If not that fact will be somewhat limiting too. Every rifle has a sweet load that is more accurate. Ya just find out what it is. These few items are just a start. If you really want to go after accuracy, good for you. It is a great challenge. Good luck to ya.
Chuchaco, what kind of accuracy are you talking about. I don't think a 15 sport will shoot one hole at 200 yards, but there are plenty of rifles that will. If you get the accuracy bug and really go after it, the 4X12 is not enough. You have to be able to see your bullet hole in the target at 200 yards, or else walk yourself to death looking to see where you are hitting. It would drastically limit your learning how to dope the wind. A serious trigger upgrade is just as important as a good scope. Figure on a good rest. Are you a reloader? If not that fact will be somewhat limiting too. Every rifle has a sweet load that is more accurate. Ya just find out what it is. These few items are just a start. If you really want to go after accuracy, good for you. It is a great challenge. Good luck to ya.
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The OP may not respond to this as he started it almost two years ago.
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I think UTG was mentioned, but it's an extended eye relief design (most extreme) made by a lot of manufactures.
I'm not sure what the idea is behind that Nikon 3x. For a 3x fixed scope, I'd get a compact designed for an AR platform with an incorporated mount like the Burris AR332 or PA CQB. I googled that particular Nikon for Internet pics and saw other odd mounting solutions so it appears that folks struggle with it or maybe they give away these mounts with the scope? Simple rings or a riser and low rings would seem like the easy route... In any event I think you and 78Staff are right that it's not going to work as designed.
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The P-223 with the P-series mounts work great...I used it like in the second picture above. The issue I ran into was that I have a brass catcher that has a attachment point that clamps around the barrel nut D-ring. If I were to want to remove the Nikon and use iron's, I was no longer able to run it forward on the top rail as that clamp blocked the path. The only way would have been to remove the MBUS sight, slide the Nikon off to the rear, then reattach the MBUS sight....now where were those allen wrenches...just wasn't realistic.
The UTG M1S35070R2 mount fits the P-223 perfect and is a great alternative to the P-series mounts from Nikon. The issue here comes in that the UTG mount with it's off-set won't clear the MBUS rear sight. In steps a 1/2" Truglo riser to provide it just enough clearance to work. That little bit of rise also feels more natural to me when bringing it up to my cheek. I have my stock extended fully and have 3" of eye relief along with a full sight picture within the scope. Turning the mount so it's off-set is forward pushes this short scope way too far forward...been there...tried it.
The UTG M1S35070R2 mount fits the P-223 perfect and is a great alternative to the P-series mounts from Nikon. The issue here comes in that the UTG mount with it's off-set won't clear the MBUS rear sight. In steps a 1/2" Truglo riser to provide it just enough clearance to work. That little bit of rise also feels more natural to me when bringing it up to my cheek. I have my stock extended fully and have 3" of eye relief along with a full sight picture within the scope. Turning the mount so it's off-set is forward pushes this short scope way too far forward...been there...tried it.
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Solution for..... Range toy for plinking? High precision work and/or dependability?
If it's the later... American Defense and Bobro make good mounts too. If its just a range toy for plinking then whatever dime store mount will work fine a couple times before the lever mechanism breaks or requires adjustment.
I use a Primary Arms MicroDot with lever mount on my 15-22. Worthless. I just use the side screw nut and leave the lever in place.
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