No audible or feel reset on Performance Center Core Ported 9?

[2tango2]

My LGS got in one of the new PC Ported 9's. First thing I noticed was how light this gun is.....

2nd thing was I couldn't feel or hear the trigger reset at all


Is this something different with the new PC ported guns? Is it because of the adjustable trigger?

My VTAC, 9c and Shield all have very noticeable resets.

I will say the reset is very short, just found myself guessing though

 

[YZ400Man]

I bought a .40 5" ported CORE and my dad has a 9 ported CORE and neither had much of an audible or tactile reset. The 9 you could catch if you really focused, my .40 gave no clue. I installed a RAM from Apex and it helped some, then I put in a new slide stop with the hump and now have a very nice reset. My dad installed just the new slide stop and his also has a nice reset now.

 

[desmondj]

Interesting. I saw a new ported 9 in the gun store Thursday. It has a nice reset and a redesigned striker block. Looked a little like the Apex version. I think changes are in the works.

 

[2tango2]

Wonder how this one snuck out. Even the store clerk was amazed at how there was no discernable reset click

 

[tacos3]

The RAM helps with the feel of the reset but doesn't make the reset that much louder. For me, the feel is what is most helpful for double taps etc. check with Apex if you do have a RAM as there new versions of the springs and they sent me an updated on last week.

 

[rwsmith]

For me the indication of reset....

This is a legitimate concern and it would be nice if all guns have an obvious audible/tactile reset point, but I never counted on it, but considered the reset point to be when the trigger hits the forward stop point. I don't mean that in a jerky way at all but it seems that people expect a gun now to have a crisp reset point. I don't know where different manufacturers stand on it, but I'd like to know.

 

[2tango2]

It was difficult to feel the reset as well. Someone bought that one and I saw another at the same LGS. If it is still there next time I go I'll check it out. 714 just a little rich for me for this gun

 

[shawn mccarver]

Stop feeling and listening for it, just let it go forward, and shoot again! You'll be faster than if you slow to feel re-set, and more accurate than the subsequent trigger jerking when you are trying to play catch up after you "found" the re-set point. Plus, if you just let it go forward, there is no danger of short-stroking.

 

[00stormbringer]

My NIB M&P PC40 also came with the gen 1 slide stop! Very disappointing to say the least.

 

[GetRekt]

Stop feeling and listening for it, just let it go forward, and shoot again! You'll be faster than if you slow to feel re-set, and more accurate than the subsequent trigger jerking when you are trying to play catch up after you "found" the re-set point. Plus, if you just let it go forward, there is no danger of short-stroking.

For the majority of people, this is absolutely false.

Go shoot at a competition and ask how many people ignore trigger reset. I'm guessing at least 90% would think you are crazy.

If you want to shoot fast, and accurately, learning to ride the reset it almost a must.

 

[Bob O]

Watch and listen to Jerry Miculek.....he doesn't ride the reset and even said it wasn't important. I don't focus on the reset when I shoot.

Except for the P226 DAK I was issued for about 10 years, which I always used the short reset. But for a trigger without dual resets, I don't bother with feeling and/or listening for it.

 

[Magload]

True but I think Jerry Miculek could shoot good with any trigger.

Riding the reset works for speed but I shoot up my ammo to fast and have to short a stay at the range. Don

 

[GetRekt]

Watch and listen to Jerry Miculek.....he doesn't ride the reset and even said it wasn't important. I don't focus on the reset when I shoot.

Except for the P226 DAK I was issued for about 10 years, which I always used the short reset. But for a trigger without dual resets, I don't bother with feeling and/or listening for it.

Jerry doesn't ride the reset because he's inhumanly fast.

Most competition shooters, the majority, do ride the reset. Most of us in competition aren't blazing off 6 rounds in 1 second. We are making quick but accurate shots and need the precision to make follow up shots.

If I make a shot and I don't hit the "0" area on my target, I know I need a *very* slight adjustment and follow up shot before moving to the next target.

Riding the reset allows me to keep on target and make my corrections as I am feeling the reset. As soon as I feel that "click" it's time to send another round down the pipe.


If I fully let go and pulled the trigger anew each time, my follow up shots would be neither as fast or as accurate.

YMMV.

 

[00stormbringer]

Regardless of reset preference among user's, the gen3 slide stop was reinforced to correct the breakage issues. S&W should be ashamed of themselves for unethical business practices. If the gen 3 slide stops are behind on production, then they should place a hold on rolling out the corresponding firearms.

 

[CaptRon956]

For the majority of people, this is absolutely false.

Go shoot at a competition and ask how many people ignore trigger reset. I'm guessing at least 90% would think you are crazy.

If you want to shoot fast, and accurately, learning to ride the reset it almost a must.

Hmmmm. IDPA much dude?

 

[growr]

I am an active competitor in USPSA/IDPA and reset on the trigger seems to be a mute point.

The Grand Masters I have asked about have all said about the same thing...."Reset on the trigger? No, I just pull the trigger when the sight is on the target as quickly as I can."

How do you hear the reset with plugs or muffs on anyway?

Randy

 

[GetRekt]

I am an active competitor in USPSA/IDPA and reset on the trigger seems to be a mute point.

The Grand Masters I have asked about have all said about the same thing...."Reset on the trigger? No, I just pull the trigger when the sight is on the target as quickly as I can."

How do you hear the reset with plugs or muffs on anyway?

Randy

Who said anything about hearing it? Tactile reset is what I look for.

And it's a *moot* point, not "mute."


I wonder what's so different from the high level competitors in my area, versus yours? Because I know basically no one who doesn't want/need a tactile reset on their competition pistol.


I can't imagine the logic behind advocating against using the trigger reset. Slapping the trigger will slow you down and make you less accurate. Sure, there are probably some GM level shooters who do slap the trigger, but that doesn't mean slapping is the way to go.

I guess my question is, why would you NOT want to shorten your trigger stroke to the absolute minimum? Especially if you're looking to shoot spits in the teens.

 

[ChiefStealth]

I'm not a competitor. Maybe people who compete need something different than people who don't compete. I don't know. Speaking as one who does a lot of double-tap, SD type shooting, I ride the reset. When I dry fire slow and deliberate, I can both feel and hear the reset. But, when shooting, I neither feel nor hear it. After many trips to the range, I just know where it is. I have no need to either feel, or hear it.

 

[growr]

The OP mentioned not being able to hear the reset. My sincere apologies in my incorrect useage of the word moot. Don't know what came over me on that one................

 

[shawn mccarver]

Go shoot at a competition and ask how many people ignore trigger reset. I'm guessing at least 90% would think you are crazy.

If you want to shoot fast, and accurately, learning to ride the reset it almost a must.

I am in good company. Both Vickers and Hackathorn have said that riding the re-set is the "biggest training scar" of the modern era. I guess they are crazy also.

In addition, neither Rob Leathan nor Jerry Miculek "ride the re-set." Last time I checked, they are pretty fast also. They must be crazy as well.

If I am crazy, I am in good company.