500SNW
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That's our post-1960's criminal justice system for you. Favoring the rights of the accused over the victims. And it's only going to get worse in the coming years
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"No Trespassing" Sign Curiousity Question.
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That's our post-1960's criminal justice system for you. Favoring the rights of the accused over the victims. And it's only going to get worse in the coming years
Puller
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Seems you're looking for a deterrent for solicitors and signs typically won't do it. I saw the post above for the motion lawn sprinklers and I know a retired guy that uses them for that purpose and they absolutely do the job. From his reclining chair near his front window he can see people when they come up his sidewalk and he gets a big chuckle when they get sprayed. He took down his "No Soliciting " signs because he enjoys watching people come up his walk now, though they never make it to the door.
mike from st pete
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THE PILGRIM
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Solicitors? I don’t answer the door!
Trespassing? Confusing in NM.
Many forms of land ownership.
Private, Tribal, State and Federal.
They all got different rules, sometimes marked, often not.
Take the NM Mystery Stone. Its on State Trust land west of Los Lunas, NM.
Rules say you have a Pass from State Land Office.
I have been there with folks who said they had a Pass, been there with folks who didn’t have one.
The odds of meeting a State Land Office Official who would issue a ticket?
About the same as getting hit by a meteor!
I have cut firewood on State Land. Had a Ticket to Ride!
Trespassing? Confusing in NM.
Many forms of land ownership.
Private, Tribal, State and Federal.
They all got different rules, sometimes marked, often not.
Take the NM Mystery Stone. Its on State Trust land west of Los Lunas, NM.
Rules say you have a Pass from State Land Office.
I have been there with folks who said they had a Pass, been there with folks who didn’t have one.
The odds of meeting a State Land Office Official who would issue a ticket?
About the same as getting hit by a meteor!
I have cut firewood on State Land. Had a Ticket to Ride!
Grayfox
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Ever run across a purple fence post? Here in Tennessee as well as several other states, A mark of purple paint at least 1" wide and 8" long applied 3 to 5' above ground level to fences, trees, buildings or other terrain features is a legal No Trespassing sign. Most people just paint the top of fence posts or put a large round spot on a tree. This was done so land owners wouldn't have to buy and maintain a bunch of expensive signs to post around their property. Instead all they need is a can of purple spray paint.
So if you're wandering around in Tennessee and come across a purple fence post, tree or anything else, you best be headed back the way you came. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
So if you're wandering around in Tennessee and come across a purple fence post, tree or anything else, you best be headed back the way you came. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
CAJUNLAWYER
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I didn't realize that TN was so ashamed of their football team that they use LSU purple instead of Tennessee OrangeEver run across a purple fence post? Here in Tennessee as well as several other states, A mark of purple paint at least 1" wide and 8" long applied 3 to 5' above ground level to fences, trees, buildings or other terrain features is a legal No Trespassing sign. Most people just paint the top of fence posts or put a large round spot on a tree. This was done so land owners wouldn't have to buy and maintain a bunch of expensive signs to post around their property. Instead all they need is a can of purple spray paint.
So if you're wandering around in Tennessee and come across a purple fence post, tree or anything else, you best be headed back the way you came. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
Louisians's purple paint law:
B Although not required by this Section, notice that entrance upon any structure, watercraft, movable, or immovable property owned by another is prohibited may be indicated by either of the following:
(1) A sign or signs posted on or in the property at a place or places where such sign or signs may be reasonably expected to be seen.
(2) The placement of identifying purple paint marks on the trees or posts on the property, provided that such marks are:
(a) Vertical lines of not less than eight inches in length and not less than one inch in width.
(b) Placed so that the bottom of the mark is not less than three feet from the ground nor more than five feet from the ground.
(c) Placed at locations that are readily visible to any person approaching the property and no more than one hundred feet apart on forest land, as defined in R.S. 3:3622, or one thousand feet apart on land other than forest land.
Cajun talking again-apparently purple is the color that sticks out for even color blind people. SO purple it is!
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Our home owners insurance co. provides signage for free. When
I ask about the signs the agent said, "we find these make good
targets for some people". So I didn't put up any signs.
I ask about the signs the agent said, "we find these make good
targets for some people". So I didn't put up any signs.
So if you're wandering around in Tennessee and come across a purple fence post, tree or anything else, you best be headed back the way you came. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
PA recently enacted a purple paint law too.
Will the PA Purple Paint Law keep away One-Eyed One-Horned Flying Purple People Eaters?
Here are a couple I have posted around the ol' homestead. So far, I haven't had any problems with trespassers of any kind.
Doug M.
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The legal consequences will vary from state to state. In WA, it justifies immediate arrest if one passes it. I did not care for the non-compliant, so we added a chain link fence with a locked gate. I do not want anyone to feel welcome coming here uninvited. The only time it is a problem is when we have food delivered, and we have a protocol for working with the drivers. We get virtually everything that comes by UPS/Fedex sent to the street address of the Post Office, or to my office.
You have to make up your mind to call the cops on every person who passes the sign if the law in your state is similar to ours. I was ruthless about it. No one stayed long enough to get arrested when told I had called the cops. I did not open the door, but merely yelled through it, generally from a few feet to the side. I had to yell to be heard over the Rottweilers. Made a couple people cry. Good.
You have to make up your mind to call the cops on every person who passes the sign if the law in your state is similar to ours. I was ruthless about it. No one stayed long enough to get arrested when told I had called the cops. I did not open the door, but merely yelled through it, generally from a few feet to the side. I had to yell to be heard over the Rottweilers. Made a couple people cry. Good.
Our no trespassing signs state as follows: "Violators will be Prostituted!"
So far, so good.
So far, so good.
You come to my door with that attitude on MY property and you're gonna need some help leaving.
chiefdave
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Same law in Missouri. Rigidly enforced and ignorance of the law is not accepted as an excuse.
I think the last people that came to my door soliciting anything were two black ladies from a Neighborhood Church who seem to show up every couple months. Every time they do we tell them we're already members of a church but thank you for coming and they go on their way.
Anybody else that's actually selling something I just tell them I'm not interested and I don't open the door. It's not even so much that it ends the conversation as it never gives the conversation a chance to go anywhere. We don't seem to have any problems.
That said, I'm going to say it again if you open the door screaming at somebody and asking if they can read all you're doing is setting yourself up for a conflict that could have been avoided.
Anybody else that's actually selling something I just tell them I'm not interested and I don't open the door. It's not even so much that it ends the conversation as it never gives the conversation a chance to go anywhere. We don't seem to have any problems.
That said, I'm going to say it again if you open the door screaming at somebody and asking if they can read all you're doing is setting yourself up for a conflict that could have been avoided.
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When the gospel spreaders show up at my door, I simply tell them I will listen to their views if they will listen to mine first. So far, no takers. If it is a salesman I tell him I am selling chain and go into a spiel about chain offering to show them samples. "But, I am selling brushes" "Ya, and I am selling chain" Putting them on the wrong side of the table confuses the heck out of them and sends them away with a what happened look on their face. Word must have gotten around because it has been a long time since anyone tried to save me and I am far enough out the peddlers don't spend time around here.
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OP...Every State has their own Trespass Statutes...Find out what the requirements are where you’re Mom lives...If She has Internet, You can put up an outdoor Camera or two that runs on batteries, like the Blink, that will record video and audio and alert your Cell phone.
Gently remind Her to always keep all her entry/exit doors locked..
This attached pic is a friends Driveway, entire property is fenced and is zoned Agricultural/ Residential...Locked entry drive gate, 24/7, No Trespassing sign, further down the driveway is a metal sign
“Notice This Property is protected by video surveillance ”. ..This system has worked real well for Him.....
Trespass is a an arrestable misdemeanor, in this State, unless the subject has a weapon, like a knife, or a screwdriver, than it’s a Felony.
Gently remind Her to always keep all her entry/exit doors locked..
This attached pic is a friends Driveway, entire property is fenced and is zoned Agricultural/ Residential...Locked entry drive gate, 24/7, No Trespassing sign, further down the driveway is a metal sign
“Notice This Property is protected by video surveillance ”. ..This system has worked real well for Him.....
Trespass is a an arrestable misdemeanor, in this State, unless the subject has a weapon, like a knife, or a screwdriver, than it’s a Felony.
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THE PILGRIM
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The Ranch North of Chama, NM where I took that picture is big.
You can go North on a public road, which left on the picture, all the way to Colorado.
It’s just under 10 miles and they own it on both sides of the road.
And it’s properly marked. There’s a No Trespassing Sign every 600 feet all the way to CO!
When you get to the state line, you cross over into National Forest.
I have been up there in Deer-Elk season.
The CO side was a small town!
Wall to wall Humanoids, horses, vehicles of every kind.
You can go North on a public road, which left on the picture, all the way to Colorado.
It’s just under 10 miles and they own it on both sides of the road.
And it’s properly marked. There’s a No Trespassing Sign every 600 feet all the way to CO!
When you get to the state line, you cross over into National Forest.
I have been up there in Deer-Elk season.
The CO side was a small town!
Wall to wall Humanoids, horses, vehicles of every kind.
