Non 1911 45ACP Choices....M&P45 Questions.

Oh, I forgot to mention H&K! Very high quality brand that works well. But 2 huge problems; Price is ridiculous, and unless your name is Jack Bauer, H&K will not talk to you or deal w/ you.
IMHO, anyway.
Ofc.JL
 
I have the M&P 45 and it has been great with no problems ever. The trigger was not to my liking. I replaced the sear and it now has a nice trigger as well. Glocks are good also and are known to and hold up well in rough conditions.
 
I have experience with several S/A .45ACP platforms, and still own a few. My opinion is based on the fact that I have owned and carried and used revolvers on a daily basis for over 50 years. I am totally programmed to use a handgun in the double action mode. My first choice for daily carry is a revolver, but semi autos have some features that also make them a viable choice for that purpose. The M&P 45 is my choice among all those available. First, it fits my hands and it just feels right when I grip it. It points where I look. It has a more than decent action and trigger pull for it's intended purpose, which is for personal protection at all times. It is not heavy to carry, it holds ten rounds plus one, and an extra mag or two is easily carried and easily loaded if necessary. In my experience, if a handgun does not fit your hand well, allowing the correct access to the trigger with your trigger finger, it is much more difficult to use easily and instinctively, especially when you may be using it under duress. In my case, when I point my M&P 45 at something with a good correct grip on it, the sights are very close to correctly aligned, and I can shoot it very easily and satisfactorily. It has been very reliable in function for me. With the three different grip sizes that are easily changed, you have a good chance of getting a good fit. My M&P semi autos all seem to have less felt recoil when I fire them, and recovery from a shot and firing the next one is as good as any semi auto I've used, and that includes the .45ACP.

Since you are going to be using a bow for your primary hunting weapon, with the handgun as a backup, ease of carry, ease of access, and the ability to get the handgun into action are all important things. You can draw and fire the M&P 45 without doing anything but drawing, aiming, and pressing the trigger. Simple is always good, especially when faced with the need to get some rounds on the way quickly. The .45 ACP is probably not one of the premier hunting rounds, but at the distances you are likely to be using it, it will do as well as any and better than many. The most critical need is for you to be able to deliver one or more rounds quickly and accurately with your choice of backup handgun. You'll have to figure out what's best for you. But it's my considered choice that it would be very hard to choose a semi auto .45ACP that would likely be any better for what you describe.

They don't cost a lot of money, they should stand up well to being carried and used as you describe, and they work! That's my experience and advice for what it's worth! Keep in mind that your ammo choice will be important and that you need to know what ever you choose will feed and function in your handgun without concern. Good luck with your decision, and good hunting!!
 
I own two Tanfoglio(Witness) CZ 75 variants in 45 ACP and love them. Jeff Cooper thought a lot of the CZ 75 and choose it for His Bren TEN that tells me something. For me the CZ 75 is the perfect pistol and I grew up on 1911's.
 
Get a Smith 457. You will love it!! I love mine!! They are all over the net for $300 to $400.
 
Bought my M&P45 3yrs ago, second hand, it has been my pistol of choice for IPSC and 3-gun. I have climbed from C class to A class in that time. I have has just ONE failure to feed during all that time using my own reloads. I have 3x 14 round magazines and 2x10round, the latter being bought with the gun. The original tritium sights are still on the gun.
I have tried using my Glock 22 gen 4 but even with the higher capacity magazines I still shoot better with the M&P. I find the target acquisition much easier than the Glock for steels and the action is better for double taps on paper.
Now... having said all that I also shoot these competitions with my 625-2, 'old school'. I love that revolver.... still manage to get into the top 5 in my class with the wheel-gun.
 
I'm am an old guy and I use Buffalo Bore 9mm Luger +P+ PENETRATOR Ammo near 1,300 fps for hogs. I never had to use it but it leaves good looking wound track in dead pigs and I'm confident using in the guns I have.

If I were buying a new gun for backup hunting hogs it would probably be Ruger 101 or 100 with a 3-4 inch barrel so I could take more than 10 or 15% more energy to the fight.

GC
 
I have the M&P .45 ACP that I actually bought because of everyone talking about how comfortable it is and how well it points ... and it's all true!

Also, I have a Sig P250 in .45 ACP. I must admit I bought it only cuz is was pretty inexpensive for a Sig! Turned out to be a terrific gun.

I also have the XDs .45 and it's also excellent.

I recently bought a Kahr CW .45 ACP (and a .40 and a 9mm) and I must admit I haven't noticed the trigger being any better than some other guns I have.

And I have a Colt 1911 .45 ACP that I bought used as a shooter only because I think of it as one of those "must-have" guns ... like a Python, S&W Model 29, and Colt Delta Elite 10mm.
 
45ACP is a very poor choice for a hog gun unless you're not planning to actually use it to put down a hog. As mentioned above, you need a .357.
 
The only true way to settle the debate is to ask a hog which one he or she prefers to be shot with and go from there. Personally I do not think they will care. :)
 
An article I saw a couple of months ago suggested 4 different 44mag wheel guns and a 10mm for hog hunting sighting that a hog may not be all you encounter. You want something big and hard hitting in case the critter you encounter has 2 legs and a 5.56 aimed at you.
 
I also live in Texas. I have 2 M&Ps a 45 and a 40. I bought the 45 first. I am well pleased with both. the 45 has never missed a beat over the 1500+ rounds that I have fired through it. That begin said I would go with a 357 or 44 for hogs.
 
I have both the Glock 21sf and the M&P45 fullsize and have run thousands of rounds through each. Both are excellent. I would be happy to carry either as a back up during a hog hunt. I have replaced the M&P sear with the APEX part and it made the stock trigger even better than stock. I think if I could only have one I would take the Glock by a slight margin based on the simplicity of design which makes maintenance better than any other. But then the Smith offers shipping both ways if you ever need service. I would avoid some of the imports you mentioned based on questionable service and lack of aftermarket parts.
 
the eaa witness is made in italy and is a very well made pistol I have 4 guns on one frame all are accurate and trust worthy
 
Nalapombu,
Of the pistols you have called your top two, I have only owned the M&P, not the SAR K2. I have also owned(past tense) a SA XD, and a Glock 21SF. I still own the M&P and it has been flawless through about 1200 rounds. It is/would be my choice. And it's made in America.
 
If you are looking for something durable, inexpensive, fairly light weight, and reliable, I'll throw out one no one has mentioned - The Ruger P series .45 pistol.

Grip feel is subjective, but they fit my hand about as well as any non-1911. They usually have smooth triggers on their DA, revolver like pull. And no one can tell me the P series pistols are not reliable. When I was teaching, I qualified many from an agency who issued Ruger P's, and they made some of the "big" names look bad in that respect. Good used ones are around for well under your $$ limit. And yes, they do provide second strike capability.

A .45 ACP for hogs? Never shot one with a .45 ACP, but I have shot several decent sized deer with one, using a hard cast 240 grain SWC bullet at about 950 fps. Thru and thru penetration, and dead were the results. Using a hard cast SWC or WFN bullet really makes a difference in penetration, compared to HP slugs designed for expansion, and they kill quicker than a FMJ RN.

R/E the S&W .45 M&P - Most people like them. I had a compact version. Felt great in my hand, but was not 100% reliable in about 800 rounds of mixed ammo, and not as accurate as I would have liked. Trigger was pretty notchy. Sold it, but still have my Glock version of the .45 plastic fantastic. YRMV...

Larry
 
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