Not really. SAAMI and CIP often take the pressure measurement at a different point in the chamber. The end result is often a different pressure reading.
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I was comparing pre-pandemic prices with some friends last week and we came up with the list below. The prices typically did not include shipping or taxes. The 9mm, 38, 44 and 223 was all brass case and reloadable.
9mm - Speer 147 grain Lawman - $189.80/1000 round case
9mm - Blazer brass 115 grain - $177.99/1050 round case
22LR - CCI MiniMag 40 grain - $279.50/5000 round case
223 - Fiocchi 55 grain FMJ - $263.80/1000 round case
38 Special - Fiocchi 148 grain wadcutter - $15.95/50 round box
44 Special - Magtech 240 grain FMJ - $25.95/50 round box
Adjusted for inflation these were the best prices I have ever seen for newly manufactured ammo. When I start shooting in the 80s you could find inexpensive surplus in some calibers. I still have some non-corrosive 308 I paid $160/1000 rounds for in the early 90s. But the first time I mail ordered ammo in the 80s I recall paying about $140 for a 1000 rounds of 9mm. Adjusted for 35 years of inflation that is quite a bit more than I was paying a couple of years ago.
I still think prices will come down from what they are now but not to the levels they were at in 2019. Material costs have gone up and demand is still high. My guess is 9mm will get back down to $220/1000 rounds, maybe lower if we get lucky. But prices are staying high longer than I thought they would.
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I'll be very surprised if we ever again get down as low as $250/1000 for brass case 9mm.
I recently bought several cases of Norma training 9mm at $15 a box of 50 delivered, and I thought that was a very good buy in our current situation.
I recently bought several cases of Norma training 9mm at $15 a box of 50 delivered, and I thought that was a very good buy in our current situation.
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For this ammo a case was 20, 50 round boxes in a bigger box. Its not 1000 loose rounds in one big box.
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I hope it goes lower but you may be right. I just got through looking at ammo prices in a November 1, 1991 issue of the Shotgun News I found in a box in my garage. I got so used to the really cheap prices from a few years ago I forgot how much I used to pay for ammo thirty years ago. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics calculator inflation has almost exactly doubled prices since 1991. So multiply these prices by 2 to get the 2021 prices.
There were a couple of ads for Winchester white box:
- 223 was $173/1000 rounds in 1991, equivalent to $346 today.
- 9mm was $167/1000 rounds in 1991, equivalent to $334 today.
The least expensive newly manufactured ammo a good margin was the Chinese made and long since banned Norinco ammo:
- 223 was $126.50/1000 rounds in 1991, equivalent to $256 today.
- 9mm was $146.50/1000 rounds in 1991, equivalent to $293 today.
Given the historical cost of ammo and rising prices of materials my guess of $220/case 9mm again could very well be optimistic.
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I don't know that material costs factor into the increase that much; I think it's way more on the demand and uncertainty. Biden's Russian ammo ban with the stroke of a pen has scared a whole lot of people... it's been a long time since our fed gov has actively affected the market. And this was without even "trying", as they claim it was directed at Russia, not our shooting populace.
Politics might be taboo here, but his stated position as a candidate was to curtail our access to firearms and ammo, and they haven't started officially yet.
We've seen a whole lot of "law-like" actions occur over the past year, without any act of Congress behind it. We almost certainly will see more.
Politics might be taboo here, but his stated position as a candidate was to curtail our access to firearms and ammo, and they haven't started officially yet.
We've seen a whole lot of "law-like" actions occur over the past year, without any act of Congress behind it. We almost certainly will see more.
After multiple victim shootings that get lots of media attention, like the other day's Ethan Crumbley's Oxford High School in Michigan shooting, do fears of further "gun control" cause ammo sales typically pick up and LGS stock decline soon thereafter?
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