Pistol Caliber Carbines

[Bald1]

just a couple of advantages to pcc's
a 9mm ppc can be made incredibly short (much shorter than the rifle caliber carbines am familiar with).
a 16 in 44mag lever can shoot a sub sonic 300 gn xtp very quietly with the right powder.
alot of the other advantages likely were enumerated, like the cheap 9mm available

Zeke, a lot of guys are suppressing the Ruger 77/44 rifles now. The news have threaded barrels right from the factory.

 

[zeke]

Zeke, a lot of guys are suppressing the Ruger 77/44 rifles now. The news have threaded barrels right from the factory.

Prefer the levers, and bought one of the newer ones with 16 in threaded barrel.

 

[Bald1]

I did not know the levers could be had with threaded barrels

 

[zeke]

I did not know the levers could be had with threaded barrels

A lot easier now a days to get firearms that come from factory equipped/designed for accessories.

 

[old tanker]

Here's a Colt 6450 police turn-in. It has no recoil, points naturally, is light weight, and has little muzzle blast. It is easy for a small statured person to handle. Biggest downside is good magazines are not easy to get. Real Colt magazines aren't cheap, but they work 100% of the time and are all steel. After market mags are available, but their performance is spotty. One advantage is it can travel across state lines in the motor home without the hassles of an ATF "mother may I" like an SBR requires. Despite the AWB having sunset over twenty years ago some small time Barney Fife might get his knickers in a twist seeing the "RESTRICTED MILITARY/LAW ENFORCEMENT" roll stamp.

 

[SnidelyWhiplash]

Brownell’s magazines for Colt’s 9mm carbine are far less expensive than genuine Colt and just as reliable.

 

[Freedom Fighter]

What about Carbine calibered Pistols, like a Ruger SBH in .30 Carbine, or the Automag III .30 Carbine, etc?

 

[BB57]

What about Carbine calibered Pistols, like a Ruger SBH in .30 Carbine, or the Automag III .30 Carbine, etc?

.30 carbine in a revolver is loud and offers no advantage at all over something like a 9mm or .357 Mag.

For example a 110 gr FMJ that does 1990 fps out of an M1 carbine will only achieve around 1400 fps in a 7.5" sbh.

In other words, you're getting no velocity advantage over a 125 gr .357 Mag, with less energy and a smaller wound track.

The .30 carbine fired from a carbine at 1800 plus fps will punch right through IIIA body armor and give good penetration in ballistic gel behind the armor. but when fired from a pistol it will be stopped just like a .357 Mag at revolver velocities.

 

[gunbarrel]

The downsides...easier to be snatched from you if you allow an intruder to get that close...

Everyone's situation and needs are different. We all have to take stock of what's necessary and what potential scenarios to best prepare for.

Agree.

Put a sling on the PCC (I have a one point detachable swivel on mine) and keep it fairly close to your body. While someone is trying to snatch it away from you, pull out your EDC handgun and double-tap the bad guy.

This goes hand in hand with your last paragraph.

 

[gunbarrel]

I thought a pistol caliber carbine would be fun and 9mm ammo is cheap but then I got a 300 Blackout AR pistol with brace and suppressor. I shoot mostly subsonic ammo which is about like a 45 acp or 10mm in power and it's a lot of fun and very accurate plus I can shoot high velocity ammo in it if desired but it's not as quiet.

Do you live in a secluded dwelling? I live in a subdevelopment and I would risk shooting into a neighbor's house with a firearm chambered for 300 Blackout...

 

[jschmidt]

I have an AP5. I enjoy it greatly

 

[jschmidt]

Agree.

Put a sling on the PCC (I have a one point detachable swivel on mine) and keep it fairly close to your body. While someone is trying to snatch it away from you, pull out your EDC handgun and double-tap the bad guy.

This goes hand in hand with your last paragraph.

And it is alot harder to get out of two hands (or even one.) a gun with a real stock can't as easily be twisted out of your hand.