Not all gun shows are lousy

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The general consensus in most gun forums seems to be that gun shows just plain stink. Well, I have certainly visited some stinkers but when it comes to shows these days, I have a serious ace up my sleeve because I'm lucky enough that I get to regularly attend a FANTASTIC show.

So I'll recap some of the more interesting guns that I saw. And keep in mind, I'm merely listing what was interesting to me -- there were countless guns that folks on this forum would totally love that I tend to look right past.

Smith & Wesson 1-2-3rd Gens and PC are my absolute favorite, so I'll start there. One 4566 TSW, a couple 645's, not a single 4506, two 659's, two 439's, a couple of 5906's and a DAO 3rd Gen here and there, 9mm & .40cal. Saw a 3919 LadySmith, good looking pistol. Was one CS-45. There was a completely gorgeous non-IPSC marked 745, about as close to mint as I've seen, with the original box. $750 was the price on that, not outrageous for the package. There wasn't a single Model 52 at this show today. This show had more 39-2 pistols than I have ever seen in one place and they ran the gamut from "re-import and stuffed under a camel's saddle" to fresh/mint, in the original box. Who doesn't love a 39-2? I have two, so I wasn't buying.

In PC pistols, only two. A Shorty.45 that was in nice shape but not dead mint that was tagged at $1,050. The other was an early blued PC-1911, too much at $1,800 I thought.

The kicker in S&W pistols: a no-dash Model 39, steel frame. I thought it was odd that someone had colored the lettering in as you will occasionally see. In this case, they didn't "white letter" it, it was a yellow color. Could have been white years back that morphed in to a yellow. Man, you'd sure want to get that out of there if you had a safe method. Pistol was otherwise in fine shape, and price tag said $2,800.

Saw an older Wilson Combat 1911 that was tagged at $1,500 which is the lowest price I've seen on a used Wilson in years. I'm not much in to high-buck 1911's but my buddy is, so he checked it out but didn't get excited over it. In what I thought was at least a bit odd, this Wilson had no front strap checkering whatsoever. In other semi-autos, one each of an Auto-Mag and a Wildey.

Now this show is loaded with historic, extremely collectible and valuable firearms but I've seen these many many times and I'm not in that market. So if you are in to Mauser Broomhandles, Luger pistols, Colt and S&W revolvers and GI Colt 1911's, you'd collapse before you counted all of these up. Yes, I think they are fantastic, but I don't have any intention of buying things like this, so I don't spend a lot of time looking at them. With that said, there was certainly an interesting one worth telling about...

The dealer said that it was a Colt 1911 in .38 AMU and that it wasn't commercial, but rather an issued gun. He said they were rare either way, but a non-commercial issued one that was originally made in .38 AMU was exceptionally rare, and he had this tagged at $14,000. I know basically zero about collectible Colt, but I think this was neat. Oh, and since I'm talking GI stuff, there was one Liberator pistol. Neat thing. I don't recall the price. Boy I'd love to shoot one but I doubt anyone would ever let me and I can tell you that I sure won't ever buy one at their price, heh.

Last but not least was an oddity that I have heard about and seen in magazines, but at this show was the first one I had ever seen in the flesh -- a Randall Portsider. It didn't have a price tag on it.

Fun show. I bought a 39/59 complete top end... slide with rear sight & extractor, spring, guide rod, decocker, firing pin/spring, barrel and bushing. The left side of the slide was eaten up pretty badly, the dealer told me that he had a 59 tucked between a waterbed and it's frame and the mattress apparently had a small leak, it sat jammed in there and wet for some time. He had gotten a new top end somewhere and all of this went in to a bag decades ago. He just wanted it GONE, so when he offered it to me at $20, no way I could turn it down. I hope to use the slide to surprise a buddy that managed to crack his 39-2 slide where metal is the thinnest at the bottom of the milled area, left side of slide where the decock lever swings. He'll probably sand and Cera-kote the slide. Beyond that, I got a good deal on some old stock primers. I love to have a good supply of primers.

Not at all gun shows are stun guns, beef jerky and beanie babies. And I didn't mention even one revolver, there were thousands of them present.
 
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While I can say I have never found any great bargains on guns, I have found some incredible parts & accessories at gun shows.

There have been other times I don't find anything I need or want but just have a good ole' time chatting to friends and vendors. Sometimes it even puts an idea in my head :).
 
I always say that there "Isn't the deal of the day" to be found at a gun show! ;)
And if you look hard enough you can usually find it! :cool:
 
My family was art and antique dealers among several other things. Dad's motto applied to shops, flea markets, gun shows and auctions; "There is an absolute barging in there, The problem is having the knowledge to know what it is!"

Ivan
 
Have to agree, once in a while it's worth the aggravation. A couple years back I wandered across a table where a guy was selling some guns from an estate. Picked up a Colt single action .22 Sesqicentennial in the wooden display box (no papers) which looked like it had never been fired outside the factory for $150.
 
Now that would have been a fun show to go to. The last few years I haven't been very impressed with the shows I've seen, lots of AR's, camo clothing, canned jellies, jerky and a lot of polymer. I have been able to get some good buys on powder and primers though. Prices have been sky high. I still manage to do a bit of trading here and there, just not at the shows.
 
I wish that one was near me! It would be nice to see some pieces that were interesting. If I ever get there, I want to visit the one in Tulsa. No Coonans?
 
Yep, that sounds like it was a good one (and way better than the last few that I got suckered into going to around here).
So, just out of curiosity, in what city/state did this wonderous event occur? :D
 
Gun shows are like diamond mining, 'you have to dig a lot of dirt to find diamonds'
Reading the OP , maybe we went to the same gun show in Fort Worth a month ago where I also saw a Randall Portsider. Talked to the guy and asked the price. He said he really didn't want to sell it, just brought it to see if anybody recognized what it was. He said if somebody offered 'crazy money' for it he would consider selling. He said a couple of guys recognized what it was.
 
Can you spell "random interval reinforcement"? Gun shows can be as addictive as slot machines. Enjoy them for what they are, and relish the days you come home as a winner. JMHO
 
The general consensus in most gun forums seems to be that gun shows just plain stink. Well, I have certainly visited some stinkers but when it comes to shows these days, I have a serious ace up my sleeve because I'm lucky enough that I get to regularly attend a FANTASTIC show.

So I'll recap some of the more interesting guns that I saw. And keep in mind, I'm merely listing what was interesting to me -- there were countless guns that folks on this forum would totally love that I tend to look right past.

Smith & Wesson 1-2-3rd Gens and PC are my absolute favorite, so I'll start there. One 4566 TSW, a couple 645's, not a single 4506, two 659's, two 439's, a couple of 5906's and a DAO 3rd Gen here and there, 9mm & .40cal. Saw a 3919 LadySmith, good looking pistol. Was one CS-45. There was a completely gorgeous non-IPSC marked 745, about as close to mint as I've seen, with the original box. $750 was the price on that, not outrageous for the package. There wasn't a single Model 52 at this show today. This show had more 39-2 pistols than I have ever seen in one place and they ran the gamut from "re-import and stuffed under a camel's saddle" to fresh/mint, in the original box. Who doesn't love a 39-2? I have two, so I wasn't buying.

In PC pistols, only two. A Shorty.45 that was in nice shape but not dead mint that was tagged at $1,050. The other was an early blued PC-1911, too much at $1,800 I thought.

The kicker in S&W pistols: a no-dash Model 39, steel frame. I thought it was odd that someone had colored the lettering in as you will occasionally see. In this case, they didn't "white letter" it, it was a yellow color. Could have been white years back that morphed in to a yellow. Man, you'd sure want to get that out of there if you had a safe method. Pistol was otherwise in fine shape, and price tag said $2,800.

Saw an older Wilson Combat 1911 that was tagged at $1,500 which is the lowest price I've seen on a used Wilson in years. I'm not much in to high-buck 1911's but my buddy is, so he checked it out but didn't get excited over it. In what I thought was at least a bit odd, this Wilson had no front strap checkering whatsoever. In other semi-autos, one each of an Auto-Mag and a Wildey.

Now this show is loaded with historic, extremely collectible and valuable firearms but I've seen these many many times and I'm not in that market. So if you are in to Mauser Broomhandles, Luger pistols, Colt and S&W revolvers and GI Colt 1911's, you'd collapse before you counted all of these up. Yes, I think they are fantastic, but I don't have any intention of buying things like this, so I don't spend a lot of time looking at them. With that said, there was certainly an interesting one worth telling about...

The dealer said that it was a Colt 1911 in .38 AMU and that it wasn't commercial, but rather an issued gun. He said they were rare either way, but a non-commercial issued one that was originally made in .38 AMU was exceptionally rare, and he had this tagged at $14,000. I know basically zero about collectible Colt, but I think this was neat. Oh, and since I'm talking GI stuff, there was one Liberator pistol. Neat thing. I don't recall the price. Boy I'd love to shoot one but I doubt anyone would ever let me and I can tell you that I sure won't ever buy one at their price, heh.

Last but not least was an oddity that I have heard about and seen in magazines, but at this show was the first one I had ever seen in the flesh -- a Randall Portsider. It didn't have a price tag on it.

Fun show. I bought a 39/59 complete top end... slide with rear sight & extractor, spring, guide rod, decocker, firing pin/spring, barrel and bushing. The left side of the slide was eaten up pretty badly, the dealer told me that he had a 59 tucked between a waterbed and it's frame and the mattress apparently had a small leak, it sat jammed in there and wet for some time. He had gotten a new top end somewhere and all of this went in to a bag decades ago. He just wanted it GONE, so when he offered it to me at $20, no way I could turn it down. I hope to use the slide to surprise a buddy that managed to crack his 39-2 slide where metal is the thinnest at the bottom of the milled area, left side of slide where the decock lever swings. He'll probably sand and Cera-kote the slide. Beyond that, I got a good deal on some old stock primers. I love to have a good supply of primers.

Not at all gun shows are stun guns, beef jerky and beanie babies. And I didn't mention even one revolver, there were thousands of them present.

OK.... When and where was this show? Strange that is not mentioned anywhere in the blog
 
For those what have never been to the December Crossroads of the West in Phoenix. This show, 1500 tables, + the SAR(full auto) building will have something for everyone. I have been either setting up or attending this show for 20 years and it's always been a great show for me. This is the biggest gun show in the U S I know of after Tulsa and Tulsa doesn't have the SAR in conjunction with it. One pass gets you into both shows. I'll be set up in the main building as usual and I'll be bringing a couple of old Smiths to sell.

Jim
 
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Sevens, I want to go to your gun show.
Ours have been pretty bleh for a while now.
I still go, because it is a good price for a couple of hours entertainment. Plus I usually find SOMETHING worth buying.
 
Sevens, I want to go to your gun show.
Ours have been pretty bleh for a while now.
I still go, because it is a good price for a couple of hours entertainment. Plus I usually find SOMETHING worth buying.

Agree. WA gun shows have been in the toilet for quite some time unless you're into beef jerky, slide lock belts, or some random guy's vanity published novel.
 
I missed the Wanenmacher Arms Show in Tulsa for the first time in years, seems like, due to work and my mother's 94th birthday. It's always a good show with stuff you didn't know existed or had never seen before.


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I don't think I've ever attended a gun show since 1966,my first,where I didn't leave with something I didn't go there with.

Show organizers will rent empty tables to anyone selling legal items so the banana bread,homemade candles,hand made boots,coin and paper money dealers and the shoe shine guy don't surprise me.
 
I just hate it when people don't list where they are from. At least
post a state. A very long great post and the number one thing I
wanted to find out was WHERE!

To be 100% honest, I had no idea that it didn't list my location. And just as honest, I could have SWORE it was in there. Gun forums since maybe 2007 and been listed since day one. Starting to wonder if a setting got hosed. Look for it to change. I live in the middle of Ohio and the show is the Ohio Gun Collector's Association.

This show happens every other month. Like any, some are better than others and I have attended amazing shows where I took no guns home with me and I have been to average ones where I managed to find three keepers.

Coonan: I saw just one and actually, it was one of the more rare models, the original Coonan Cadet. The new iteration of Coonan makes a compact now, which must have really hurt the collectible value of the scarce Cadet model.

Saw a Hammerli 208 set with both rimfire and .32 Wadcutter uppers, that's a seriously high grade target rig. I was interested in finding the brand newly made Sig P210 which goes for almost half price of the collectible original ones, but didn't see one. Were a handful of original P210's, I have still never picked one up. Saw a COP derringer, this is the .357 Mag stainless brick with four barrels, not much out there like it. Did see a Remington XP-100, these aren't too hard to find, seems like it could be fun. Lots of High Standard, Colt Woodsman & variants and actually saw a number of Browning Challenger, Challenger II and the fancy Medalist.

There didn't happen to be any S&W 10xx pistols at the whole show, which was a bummer because I was in a 1006 mood.
 
To be 100% honest, I had no idea that it didn't list my location. And just as honest, I could have SWORE it was in there. Gun forums since maybe 2007 and been listed since day one. Starting to wonder if a setting got hosed. Look for it to change. I live in the middle of Ohio and the show is the Ohio Gun Collector's Association.

This show happens every other month. Like any, some are better than others and I have attended amazing shows where I took no guns home with me and I have been to average ones where I managed to find three keepers.

Coonan: I saw just one and actually, it was one of the more rare models, the original Coonan Cadet. The new iteration of Coonan makes a compact now, which must have really hurt the collectible value of the scarce Cadet model.

Saw a Hammerli 208 set with both rimfire and .32 Wadcutter uppers, that's a seriously high grade target rig. I was interested in finding the brand newly made Sig P210 which goes for almost half price of the collectible original ones, but didn't see one. Were a handful of original P210's, I have still never picked one up. Saw a COP derringer, this is the .357 Mag stainless brick with four barrels, not much out there like it. Did see a Remington XP-100, these aren't too hard to find, seems like it could be fun. Lots of High Standard, Colt Woodsman & variants and actually saw a number of Browning Challenger, Challenger II and the fancy Medalist.

There didn't happen to be any S&W 10xx pistols at the whole show, which was a bummer because I was in a 1006 mood.

You sir, are a true Gentleman! Thank you.
 
And you, living in WV, could realistically get to this show. It's in Wilmington, OH, just north of Cincinnati on I-71.

OGCA is a private, member's only show and you can attend as an invited, pre-arranged guest. Club rules say that you can visit only twice, and then either apply for membership or can't attend again. We've got lots of members from surrounding states... obviously buying a firearm across state lines is a bothersome affair that involves a licensed dealer, but the fact remains that it is a truly amazing gathering of guns and gun folks.
 
Agree. WA gun shows have been in the toilet for quite some time unless you're into beef jerky, slide lock belts, or some random guy's vanity published novel.
Yeah, you've been seeing that High Treason guy at the shows too, huh? We'll have to get in touch and maybe we can meet up F-T-F at the next one!
 
I have come to enjoy the small, fire house / Grange / community center gun shows here in central PA. A lot of them are 100 tables and under, but usually have a lot of older guns offered by private sellers. Usually a minimum of black plastic and beef jerky. I have picked up several nice pieces that I didn't know I needed until I seen them, and can't turn it down prices. Garage / tag sales in rural areas can produce a treasure once in awhile too.

A couple years ago I picked up this mint condition Browning A-Bolt Gold Medallion in 7mm mag. for $750.00 at a small fire house gun show. Just the Leupold scope on it is over $500.00 new. Figure I got the rifle for about $250.00 then, and the wood is fantastic.

Larry
 

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And you, living in WV, could realistically get to this show. It's in Wilmington, OH, just north of Cincinnati on I-71.

OGCA is a private, member's only show and you can attend as an invited, pre-arranged guest. Club rules say that you can visit only twice, and then either apply for membership or can't attend again. We've got lots of members from surrounding states... obviously buying a firearm across state lines is a bothersome affair that involves a licensed dealer, but the fact remains that it is a truly amazing gathering of guns and gun folks.

I just did the mapquest and it is about 6 hours. I went with a friend
about 15 years ago and it was the best show I ever attended. Bought
5 guns! Always meant to join and go back but life got in the way.
I plan on going to the next show if I can find a sponsor so I can join.
 
Must have sniped you this time Sevens! I picked up this beauty about 2:30 on Saturday. Just what I was looking for too. Maybe paid too much but I was so excited to find it I just couldn't wait to get my wallet out. Drove for 3-1/2 hours both ways through terrible weather to get to Wilmington too.
 

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Haven't been to one in years. I remember (dimly) an article on attending gun shows in some gun rag decades ago that had one gem in it: Whatever you do, don't eat the food, it's only for the strong.
 
The only firearm of worth I can recall picking up at a gun show was my 2" 1950 M&P .38 Special revolver a few years ago. Kind of 80 to 85 percent, but shot very little. I paid $420 for it, so it wasn't an awesome deal, but it was a fair price I think, and I certainly wasn't going to find something like that in one of the local stores.

I also did get a set of non-diamond magnas in good shape (aside from being re-shellacked) for 15 bucks. Put them on my 3" 68-ish model 10.

About 30 years ago, I went to a gun show in a girlfriend's town and got a .303 Enfield with a modded stock for $30, but that gun was too inaccurate to be a shooter. Not the deal it appeared to be. :) By and large, gun shows around here are a waste of time due to the extremely high prices.

I hate to say it, but the vendors at local shows don't seem bright enough to figure this out. They appear to be mostly hobbyists who seem perfectly content to sit all weekend at a makeshift booth in an uninspiring convention hall and SELL ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! You can go hours at one of these events without seeing any sort of transaction taking place. I also hate to say it, but I've seen things that lead me to believe many of them are fishing for under the table sales that will allow them to sell a used 9mm Sigma for $450...IF they don't fill out the federally required paperwork.

Needless to say, I haven't been back to that show in years.
 
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MajorDude, that is a beauty! It looks just like mine (I've had since 1995) and I'm glad you snagged it! But I must say that you didn't "snipe" it out from under me, as I was there from doors open/8am until 11:30 on Saturday. So it was either a dealer that put it out late or a dealer that took it in from a member and sold to you.

My buddy and I work like a team to find guns that each of us are interested in, I can say with certainty that we didn't miss or overlook that 1006. ;)
 
I've been going to at least 10 shows a year for over 35 years. They don't all stink but have changed over the years. Before '86 there were M2HB's on the tables along with real MP5's and you didn't need to mortgage the house to get one. The AWB in the '90's started to sour the aroma somewhat and I was guilty of some "profiteering" while I still had an 01 FFL. Try to get me to resist selling a $20 Glock mag for $150. Recently the "gun count" has gone from say 50-200 on each of 50 or so 01FFL tables to basically the "owner" having several thousand items and a few local shops having to obey "pricing guidelines." There is every "gun related" item imaginable all in one place which is the remaining reason togo along with spending the day with my friend whom I probably wouldn't see much of otherwise. I'm looking forward to Saturday morning, maybe they'll have the $5 "gunsmith screwdriver sets" which are the greatest stocking stuffers in human history. See ya there. Joe
 
Wow! Our gun shows in Georgia are bad beyond human comprehension. I haven't been to a "good" gun show since the 1980's. Inventory is horrible. Prices are stupid. You have to pay $10 to get in and see nothing. By the time a gun gets to a dealer at a gun show, it been through so many middle-men the price is elevated beyond reason. The cost to a dealer of traveling to a show, paying for lodging and food, and paying for the tables you need is so high. . .that adds to the price of the merchandise too. I much prefer to buy from local dealers who buy from the public and then sell to me for a small profit. The only exception I see at our shows is when some collector sets up for Saturday only and sells some of his guns. Of course, the other problem is that all the dealers buy all the good stuff from each other during set-up and then either keep the gun because it is so good, take it back home to sell to a super wealthy customer who doesn't care what he pays, or puts it out on his table for an amazing mark up in price. A gun show is not the place for a customer to buy guns. . .not even the new ones.
 
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