NRA says it opposes idea of banning transgender Americans from owning guns

[McChemist]

If this country goes down the road of pre-judging people's intent, then welcome to the Dept of Future Crime. Relying on judicial adjudication is a tricky road at best. Does anyone think DJT would have been fairly treated by NY, DC,....judges? If you do, I have some prime land to sell you adjacent to Alligator Alcatraz and a great bridge in Brooklyn.

By extension, having vengeful former spouses, contentious parties, and unfriendly officials (political types, the Biden FBI,....) lodge specious and most probably anonymous allegations could result in 2A rights suspension and possibly incarceration .

Going down the pre-judgement and 2A rights removal is a very steep and slippery slope.

 

[McChemist]

PS. This is unconstitutional.

 

[Thaddeus Beauregard]

I'm extremely conflicted on this! On the one hand, it's infuriating how much the ATF hassles law-abiding people, FFL dealers, and creates NFA regs on some really nonsensical things, yet there's no enforcement of existing Form 4473 violations, the pretext for the background checks in the first place. On this, I agree with a lot of what Allen West says. On the other hand, give government an inch and they take a mile. I see this idea setting a very dangerous precident. If such a policy is implemented, what then defines one being "adjudicated mentally defective" and how might the goalposts be moved on this definition over time? Who gets to make this determination? If a doctor prescribes a patient SSRIs for depression symptoms, is it much of a stretch to imagine a future requirement where the doctor must report this, it gets recorded in the NICS system, which then denies that patient 2nd Amendment rights?

 

[Thaddeus Beauregard]

If this country goes down the road of pre-judging people's intent, then welcome to the Dept of Future Crime. Relying on judicial adjudication is a tricky road at best. Does anyone think DJT would have been fairly treated by NY, DC,....judges? If you do, I have some prime land to sell you adjacent to Alligator Alcatraz and a great bridge in Brooklyn.

By extension, having vengeful former spouses, contentious parties, and unfriendly officials (political types, the Biden FBI,....) lodge specious and most probably anonymous allegations could result in 2A rights suspension and possibly incarceration .

Going down the pre-judgement and 2A rights removal is a very steep and slippery slope.

The movie "Minority Report" wasn't so far-fetched.

 

[KenTheHunter]

Good for the NRA! (This is gonna seriously mess with some people's heads!)

Amid reports the Justice Department is weighing banning transgender people from owning firearms in response to last month's mass shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic church, the National Rifle Association said Friday it will oppose any blanket rule that limits Second Amendment rights.

Their declaration comes after CNN and other outlets reported that Justice Department leadership is considering whether it can use its rulemaking authority declare that people who are transgender are mentally ill and can lose their rights to possess firearms.

"The NRA supports the Second Amendment rights of all law abiding Americans to purchase, possess and use firearms," the organization said in a social media post."NRA does not, and will not, support any policy proposals that implement sweeping gun bans that arbitrarily strip law-abiding citizens of their Second Amendment rights without due process."

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/05/politics/nra-transgender-gun-control

I have a major issue of lumping everyone in a group and penalizing them all ! This is what the anti gunners typically do. I doubt this would pass judicial muster. I have my personal opinions on trans issues, but they have the same rights as everyone else.

 

[Jim0001]

This^^^^You may not like certain people, but stripping their 2A rights over this would be unconstitutional.

Imagine if the Prez and DOJ said that black people shouldn't be allowed to purchase or possess guns because they are black. That wouldn't go over well. And this is the same thing IMO.

Race has nothing to do with a mental illness. Comparing apples to oranges....

 

[MelvinWalker]

Race has nothing to do with a mental illness. Comparing apples to oranges....

It depends on who is doing the defining... When your civil rights can be defined one way today and another way tomorrow, then it is an apples to apples comparison...Firearms ownership is a civil right.

Remember, it is literally still written in the body of the US Constitution in Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3, that slaves were counted and considered 3/5ths of the population....It was only until the 14th amendment that undid and repealed this portion of the original Constitution....However it never changed to wording of the original constitution, it just repealed that section.

 

[Butzbach]

How can the state condone firearm ownership by individuals with a self-proclaimed mental illness? The NRA steps to the plate: swing and a miss strike three you're out.

 

[Telecaster]

IBTL!

 

[MelvinWalker]

How can the state condone firearm ownership by individuals with a self-proclaimed mental illness? The NRA steps to the plate: swing and a miss strike three you're out.

On another note, my dad was stationed in Butzbach, Germany during the Korean war...4th Infantry Division.

 

[ronbwolf]

The question is, where do we draw the line, and who gets to draw it? Remember that it was not long ago that everything under the LGBTQ etc banner was labeled a "mental disorder." I personally think that this was correct, and idiots changed the rule book because of their own predilections. Be that as it may, the questions that I started with still stand. The constitution espouses that our rights come from our creator, and thus can not be "infringed," by government. "Mentally Ill," has to be defined, and an Individual needs to be "adjudicated," to be placed under that definition, before a suspension of their rights can occur, IMHO. This would not have stopped any of the shootings that have occurred, and just proves that A. all discussion of this is simply posturing by both sides, and B. laws do not prevent crime!

 

[Rocketmedic40]

How can the state condone firearm ownership by individuals with a self-proclaimed mental illness? The NRA steps to the plate: swing and a miss strike three you're out.

How can the state condone firearms ownership by people who want to buy a weapon that can fire more than one time in a few seconds? What are they doing, assaulting someone?

Swing and a miss, strike three, you're out.

See how that sounds?

 

[Rammer Jammer]

I'm wary of the slippery slope of gun control and banning whole categories of people.

But I'm also wary of people who have publicly declared their insanity as trans being armed. Depression anxiety etc are mental health issues and don't warrant bans. Trans schizophrenia etc are full blown psychotic disorders that can merit disarmament.

 

[Tom S.]

Well, we tried to let this go as a viable topic but people just can't follow the rules.


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