NY allows 7 bullets in a 10 round magazine? Have the Lunatics Taken Over the Asylum?

[kozmic]

Please don't start rumors.
NO ONE from the gun industry or any pro gun organization or pro gun individual for that matter were consulted in this debacle. It was drafted years ago by a gun hating, ego maniac who patiently waited for the right crisis to shove it down the collective throats of legal NY gun owners.
For all we know "7" came from the number of times he was beaten up in high school for being such a misguided dweeb.

 

[GKC]

So.... maybe they can have 42oz cups if they promise to only fill it to 32oz?

I envision that the current 32 oz or larger cups will have to have some sort of insert so that the capacity is less than 32 oz. NY residents and business owners can permanently modify the cup so that it holds less than 32 oz, responsibly discard it, or sell it to a dealer or an out of state purchaser.

 

[GKC]

For all we know "7" came from the number of times he was beaten up in high school for being such a misguided dweeb.

If that was the case, all magazines would have to have a 300 round capacity, and every gun owner would have to have 100 magazines.

 

[NYlakesider]

Please don't start rumors.
NO ONE from the gun industry or any pro gun organization or pro gun individual for that matter were consulted in this debacle. It was drafted years ago by a gun hating, ego maniac who patiently waited for the right crisis to shove it down the collective throats of legal NY gun owners.
For all we know "7" came from the number of times he was beaten up in high school for being such a misguided dweeb.

I have a buddy in the State police (in military he would be a 04-05), and he says to the best of his knowledge even those people did not have an input. I have seen the SP superintendent on TV talking about the new gun law. I would really like to hear what he really thinks about it and what he now thinks about his boss (Cuomo) in general. Of course he has to back up his boss if he wants to keep his high paying job! It would be fascinating no doubt!

 

[ladder13]

You wonder if the lunatics have taken over the asylum, in a state that bans 32 oz soft drinks to fight obesity? Perhaps that was a rhetorical question.

That's only in NYC, but we get the point.

 

[ladder13]

Please don't start rumors.
NO ONE from the gun industry or any pro gun organization or pro gun individual for that matter were consulted in this debacle. It was drafted years ago by a gun hating, ego maniac who patiently waited for the right crisis to shove it down the collective throats of legal NY gun owners.
For all we know "7" came from the number of times he was beaten up in high school for being such a misguided dweeb.

He's trying to outdo his daddy in absurdity.

 

[BigCityChief]

That's only in NYC, but we get the point.

Only in NYC for now! Just wait!

 

[therevjay]

Where the previous ban exempted high cap magazines purchased prior to the ban, this one does not. We have one year to get rid of high cap mags.

The problem in N.Y. is that although N.Y. City is 10% of the land area, it holds probably 80% of the population. Since the state legislators are apportioned on a per capita basis, most of them are concentrated in N.Y. City. The rest of the state has to live with their moronic ideas.

Problem solved!!! In the year they have to dispose of their 10rd mags BG's won't dare to load more then 7 rds. After all it's illegal.

Flee NY./NJ/HI and the PRK. Move to America

 

[2152hq]

10rd mags can be kept,,like forever. Just load 7 after Tax Day.

..or you can keep the hi-cap mag if you permanetly alter it to hold..
> 10rds until 4/15/13,,there after you are allowed to only load w/7rds

>7rds if altered after 4/15/13 and before 1/14/14.

After that 1/14/14 date the hi-cap magazine will be contraband and should have been turned in, sold out of state, or 'disposed of in a safe & responsible manner'.

BUT Wait!!,,if the magazine is an 'Antique' hi-cap (over 10rds) which by their new definition of 'Antique is manufactured over 50yrs ago,,you can keep it in it's original form and not alter it.

But, the magazine itself must be registered with the NYSP on or before 1/14/14 or be considered contraband.
A registered magazine can be sold and transfered to another State resident that can legally own firearms.
The form for registering either an A/W or an 'Antique H/C magazine' will be available on-line and will not require a fee nor showing the item for inspection to any agency or representative.

If placing a registered 'Antique' H/C magazine into a semiauto then places that semiauto firearm into the A/W catagory,,that firearm will also have to be separetly registered with the NYSP if you have it.

and on and on it goes...

One would think that Crack had been legalized in the Legislative and Executive Chambers of the NYS Gov't when reading this law.

 

[old bear]

Have the Lunatics Taken Over the Asylum?

Yes..........

 

[ladder13]

things could be worse, i could live in joisey.

 

[jonnyringo]

This is a lawyers dream and many politicians were once lawyers.

 

[Nightowl]

Is there any thought of appealing the law? Will subjects disobey the law and keep their magazines without registering them? Any thought of a recall petition for those that voted for this law?

I fail to comprehend why any gun manufacturer is still located east of the Mississippi River!!

Looks like the law creates a new class of criminal out of former citizens, now subjects!

 

[4D5]

10rd mags can be kept,,like forever. Just load 7 after Tax Day.

..or you can keep the hi-cap mag if you permanetly alter it to hold..
> 10rds until 4/15/13,,there after you are allowed to only load w/7rds

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Although I live within the United States Borders (Nevada) I read the horrific law and it says:

"This bill prohibits possession of all magazines with the capacity to contain more than ten rounds, regardless of the date of manufacture."

So... there's no option for modifying a magazine holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition. Even if altered, it still has the capacity to hold more than 10 rounds.

Besides, I wouldn't want to be the test case for what constitutes permanently altered, contending that in it's current altered configuration it can only hold 7 rounds of ammunition.


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[Jetpilot007]

These politicians are lunatics and insane

 

[charlie sherrill]

There are still a few of us on the east side that would welcome them to a new home.

 

[bushmaster1313]

How bad must it get before someone is justified in loading that extra round?

Will the jury be asked if it was a "Righteous Load"?

Will there be a "Magazine Doctrine" akin to the "Castle Doctrine"?

Will "Load Your Magazine" be harder or easier to prove than "Stand Your Ground"?

How long will it take till the courts work out the elements of a "Justifiable Loading"?

If attacked by 8 bad guys, do you have to shoot one of them first before you can put another round in the magazine?

 

[2152hq]

"This bill prohibits possession of all magazines with the capacity to contain more than ten rounds, regardless of the date of manufacture."

So... there's no option for modifying a magazine holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition. Even if altered, it still has the capacity to hold more than 10 rounds.

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The law allows possession what they term 'antique' magazines (50yrs old and older) that have a capacity of more than 10rds.
They must be registered with the NYSP, they must be usable only in a firearm that is also within the '50 y/o and older' class, and possessed only by someone that is legally allowed to own a firearm in NYS.
That class of magazine is allowed to be brought in to NYS at anytime forward, even after the 1 yr anniversary date of the law. It must be registered with the NYSP with in 72hrs.
As well if a registered magazine is disposed of/sold, NYSP must be notified with in that same 72hr time period.
M1 Carbine mags come to mind here.

Currently possessed hi-cap magazines that were legal under the old NYS AWB are now not allowed under the new law.
You have 1yr to dispose of them or you can 'permanetly alter' the existing hi-cap magazine to hold:
>10rds till 4-15-13
>after 4-15-13 it has the be altered to permanetly hold only 7 rds.,,and the magazine that was altered to hold 10rds can now only be loaded with 7 rds.

The alteration must be 'not readily and easily reversed' so as to make the magazine able to receive more than the 10rds,,then later the 7rds depending on the date it was converted.

Yes, the question of what 'not easily reversible' is should be answered and illustrated.
My first inclination is that the heavy crimp in the mag body on both sides as the manf'rs now do to limit follower travel would comply. Glueing or placing a spacer below the spring would not probably.

Moving would be the best solution..

 

[30-30remchester]

The criminals will always violate the law and the honest citizen will always obey the law. The rub is the honest citizen that gets whacked for accidental violation. And if you think about it, the earlier ban on bayonets on guns WORKED. Since it was enacted I never heard of a drive by bayoneting.