NYPD Trigger Pull Transitions From 12 to 5 Pounds

[stansdds]

The REAL ISSUE with the NYPD is their lack of training! Not only do they get a rush through course on shooting and firearms (IMHO) but the average Officer there does not discipline themselves to practice enough. It's not just my opinion, it's fairly obvious if you look at the shooting history they have had over 30 years. Pathetic!

Training & constant practice is the key to preventing accidents - not making trigger pull weights ridiculously heavy. Kind of like making an accelerator pedal in a car very hard to push to reduce speeding.

There's the truth! It does take training and then practice to be proficient and safe with any firearm.

 

[uncleted327]

Just a footnote, Glock is ending production of Gen 4s that will have a Gen 5 variant, not total production of Gen 4s across the board.

 

[Muley Gil]

If you keep your finger off of the trigger until you're ready to shoot, you won't have any ADs.

 

[Miami_JBT]

Just a footnote, Glock is ending production of Gen 4s that will have a Gen 5 variant, not total production of Gen 4s across the board.

Gen 4 for civilian sales and so far only in. 40 S&W and 9mm models. There is no Gen 5 G21 or G20 for example. Same with the G31 or G33.

The Gen 4s are still available for LE sales due to contracts. The UK MoD for example adopted the Gen 4 G17 as their duty pistol recently. Same with a number of agencies across the globe. Hell, my last agency recently adopted the Gen 4 to replace out aging Gen 3s that we've had since the late 90s.

 

[Miami_JBT]

Over the last 20 years or so the NYPD's trigger pull was regulated to 12.5-13 pounds. After shooting several of my friends duty guns they are ridiculously heavy and very hard for the average Office to manage and master.

As I understand it, they did just go back to the standard Glock pull weight which is usually 5.5 -6 pounds.

The REAL ISSUE with the NYPD is their lack of training! Not only do they get a rush through course on shooting and firearms (IMHO) but the average Officer there does not discipline themselves to practice enough. It's not just my opinion, it's fairly obvious if you look at the shooting history they have had over 30 years. Pathetic!

Training & constant practice is the key to preventing accidents - not making trigger pull weights ridiculously heavy. Kind of like making an accelerator pedal in a car very hard to push to reduce speeding.

Training sucks... but the trigger pull stems from when the NYPD and agencies across the country were ditching wheel guns.

The NYPD 1 trigger pull is to replicate the DA Wheel Gun trigger pull of a Model 64 from S&W. The first and second generation Sigmas had the same trigger pull. As did the FN Forty-Nine and of course all the DAO automatics like the SIG P226 DAO, Beretta 92D, S&W 5946, Ruger P89DAO, and even one of their variants of the HK USP prior to the LEM trigger being invented.

The fact that the NYPD kept such a need on the books this long is a sign of institutional inertia and non-gun folks running things.

 

[K Frame Keith]

I was a Glock armorer back in the day. The standard Glock trigger is used by most Departments. The NYPD trigger was, we were told, was developed for NYPD as a retrofit assembly that slightly complicated the action. I fitted a few in training, think they were orange in color. I’m not a Glock fanboy but the standard trigger is easier to shoot well.