NYS getting close to BGcheck for ammo purchases?

[Rich Richardson]

Born and raised in NY, stayed for 65 years and left 10 years ago.
When I see threads like this I always watch “My Dinner With Andre” again. It’s the scene titled “New York is a prison”.

 

[dockmurgw]

Out there...somewhere...ammo dealers on the VT side of the long NY/VT border are stocking their shelves for day trippers.

 

[Camster]

On it happening, or happening by the projected date?


I personally spoke with member of the NYSP from the local troop’s gun unit and he (unfortunately) assured me that it was inevitable that New York would be conducting gun and ammunition background checks before years end…

Between expensive ammo...add a background check fee into that shortly, and $25 or $25+ for the range fee, and the long ride for same, it gets pricey to do a little target practice here on our big sandbar...just as they want it to be.

 

[ladder13]

I’m pretty sure any FFL taking in an ammo order is going to charge a fee.

 

[HeyJoe]

I’m pretty sure any FFL taking in an ammo order is going to charge a fee.

they already do

 

[ladder13]

NY Sheriff gets bit by ammo BGC. DELAYED.

Sheriff Stymied In Ammo Purchase After New Law Kicks In | News, Sports, Jobs - Post Journal

 

[Valmet]

Oddly enough I got a text yesterday from an old friend who relocated to Cornwall NY last year from Georgia for work and he told me that he walked in to his LGS to buy some hunting ammo and they told him they needed to do a background check and pay an additional fee so he walked out.

 

[Racer X]

It might be of some help that Judge Benitez should be ruling on the CA ammo purchasing scheme before too long. Oral arguments were months ago. here are the current documents https://michellawyers.com/rhode-v-becerra/

"The State’s own data shows that from January to June of 2023, the AFS Check
denied 141 prohibited persons, but it wrongfully rejected 58,087 people. Id. at p. 15
(Table 1.1). In other words, the State’s “background check” system wrongfully rejects
around 410 people for each prohibited person it rightfully denies. That is far from an
acceptable ratio, especially when close to 40% of people denied by the AFS Check do not
successfully purchase ammunition even after six months following the denial. Id. at ¶ 31."

They asked for a summary judgement on Oct 2nd, 2023 and a status conference is due 11/13.

 

[luvsmiths]

Are NY residents allowed to mail order ammo still?

 

[Model 15-4ever]

Are NY residents allowed to mail order ammo still?

I think "mail order" went the way of the dodo bird about 25 years ago....

They can order online and have it shipped to a dealer. Cannot be shipped directly to the customer.

 

[luvsmiths]

I think "mail order" went the way of the dodo bird about 25 years ago....

They can order online and have it shipped to a dealer. Cannot be shipped directly to the customer.

Sigh..........
Would have been too easy- stupid question it was, I guess.

 

[HeyJoe]

that was prohibited by the Safe Act in 2013

 

[demkofour]

NY Sheriff gets bit by ammo BGC. DELAYED.

Sheriff Stymied In Ammo Purchase After New Law Kicks In | News, Sports, Jobs - Post Journal

At the shop I work at p/t, we kinda routinely get a “processing” response on gun and ammunition background checks. “Delay” are not as common but do occur. I’ve personally seen them several times on active duty police and peace officers.
And FWIW, the governor is now essentially “taxing” gun and ammunition purchases- each background check (gun, ammunition or gun/ammunition) costs the dealer running the check and that cost is added to the customer’s bill.

 

[stansdds]

At the shop I work at p/t, we kinda routinely get a “processing” response on gun and ammunition background checks. “Delay” are not as common but do occur. I’ve personally seen them several times on active duty police and peace officers.
And FWIW, the governor is now essentially “taxing” gun and ammunition purchases- each background check (gun, ammunition or gun/ammunition) costs the dealer running the check and that cost is added to the customer’s bill.

And that would be a special tax on top of any local and state sales taxes.

 

[demkofour]

And that would be a special tax on top of any local and state sales taxes.

Yup!
$9.00 for guns, $2.50 for ammunition, per transaction. Surprisingly though, any combination of guns/ammunition, guns or ammunition is considered a single transaction and will incur the appropriate charge.
We had a customer come in recently who bought a few boxes of 12 ga Target loads. He came in later for more, and was “surprised” to discover a new background check and fee was required…

 

[ladder13]

This may be of help to some.

Exploring Options: How to buy Ammo in a Compliance state, such as New York! - Target Sports USA

 

[kozmic]

My wife suggested we hop across the NYS border into PA to buy some ammo last time we visited our son and d-i-l. The local gun shop was doing a booming business and had plenty of NY license plates in their parking lot.

 

[mike campbell]

On the previous Saturday, 3 people were illegally carrying firearms in the mall. Ten people were legally carrying concealed after supplying character references, passing criminal background checks, being fingerprinted, taking courses, paying fees and waiting months for the privilege to exercise their constitutional right.

Then the governor passed a law severely restricting where firearms could be lawfully carried. Every elected official in the state was complicit.

The next Saturday the same 3 people were still carrying firearms illegally at the mall. There were no upstanding citizens legally carrying at the mall.

Makes perfect sense to a liberal that the mall is now a safer place.

Kudos to those few establishments in NY that post signs welcoming legal carry.

 

[GypsmJim]

I was on vacation when this thread was started and thus missed it. Glad it came around again.

So, it has all come to fruition now. Knowing that it was imminent I made any needed purchases before the target date.

Our mountain cabin is only a mile north of the PA border. We go to Cleveland every January for the boat show and classic boat show. Thus, we are out of state periodically anyway. I have no problem donating tax money to PA or OH.

I will NOT tell any government what ammo I buy or how much of it.

 

[Roofuss]

I will NOT tell any government what ammo I buy or how much of it.

Nobody should have to, none of their business !!