OK Texans this is the Bill to Support.

RobzGuns said:
Well... If this means that it gets to move on to the Gov's desk for signing, it's better than not getting anything at all (again).

Once it's Law, we can move for further tweaking.... Remember After All, that HB910 (and SB17) are really nothing more than a major rewrites of the Current CHL Law, right? ;)

Also... Once this gets signed, they/we can pursue Constitutional Carry. :D
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Thanks and I agree. We can tweek it more in the future. Not sure if I would like constitutional carry. Too many felons and bad guys could start to carry.
 
okiegtrider said:
They already carry. :confused:
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I'm talking the guys who can't or won't pass the CHL courses, mid level criminals etc. These are the ones who don't currently carry but could with constitutional carry. They are the ones who will give us a bad name.

I realize that these do carry in the state with no check and get away with it. Guess I may be wrong, but it concerns me
 
Are these the mid level criminals that ride unicorns while committing their crimes? ;)

Someone who carries illegally is unlikely to do so openly and drawing attention to themselves.

This provision is just a flaw in the bill that will have to be chipped away over the next few years.

Calaveras Slim said:
I'm talking the guys who can't or won't pass the CHL courses, mid level criminals etc. These are the ones who don't currently carry but could with constitutional carry. They are the ones who will give us a bad name.

I realize that these do carry in the state with no check and get away with it. Guess I may be wrong, but it concerns me
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keith44spl said:
As far as a retention on a open carry holster goes.....I like it....

This here BBQ karma holster may be something like the one that Colonel Garrison is sporting in the photo of the painting below... ;):D

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My improved 'Brill' design also incorporates an internal tensioning devise. ;)
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This really is a fabulous painting!
 
My question now is:
Does anyone know WHEN the various Bills that got passed will get signed?
Does the State normally set aside some Calendar dates and times specifically for Bill Signing, so the Press can attend?
Or does the Governor simply sign a few here and a few there, as he has time?
 
Update...
After scouring the various Texas Legislative pages, I finally found this, regarding the time frame between getting sent to the Governor and becoming Law:
Texas House of Representatives - How A Bill Becomes A Law

Governor's Action
Upon receiving a bill, the governor has 10 days in which to sign the bill, veto it, or allow it to become law without a signature. If the governor vetoes the bill and the legislature is still in session, the bill is returned to the house in which it originated with an explanation of the governor's objections. A two-thirds majority in each house is required to override the veto. If the governor neither vetoes nor signs the bill within 10 days, the bill becomes a law.
If a bill is sent to the governor within 10 days of final adjournment, the governor has until 20 days after final adjournment to sign the bill, veto it, or allow it to become law without a signature.
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Since both HB910 and SB11 were officially sent to the Governor's desk on the very last day of the session (01JUN15), he has 20 days to sign, or they automatically become Law.

According to this CBS new source, it looks like the 21st is indeed the 'Cinderella' date: Open carry heads to Gov. Abbott's desk - KFDA - NewsChannel 10 / Amarillo News, Weather, Sports
 
RobzGuns said:

There ARE constitutional Carry Bills that were drafted this session. None of them even made it into committee. SB 17 and HB910 were (major) modifications to the current CHL Laws that we've already proven over the last 20 Years.
... and through 3 of those 4 sessions, this is the 1st session where the 2A legislators had a majority... AND no longer had the '2/3 majority vote' rule. If the 2/3 Majorty had still been needed to pass, it probably would NOT have made it this time, either.


NRA and other lobbyists are like TV commercials. People don't have a need to run commercials if their business is thriving. It would be a waste of money. They run ads when they need to boost sales.
Likewise... NRA doesn't need to push for support of 2A Bills that are doing okay on their own... It would be a waste of money. They need to push for support of 2A Bills that need help (a boost in sales).

Campus Carry is just as important as Licensed Open Carry, or Constitutional Carry. People seem to think that Campus Carry is going to allow 'Kids' to bring guns to school, but it doesn't. It allows Adults with CHL Licenses to continue to carry on Public (not Private) College/University campuses and not be required to leave their CCPs at home. This covers Adults returning to Academia to acquire Adult Education, Finish their Degrees, or acquiring secondary degrees... Not just 21-24 year olds.

 Don't think that just because this Bill passed, that stronger Bills (like Constitutional Carry) won't be presented Next Session.
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Nothing is more important than Constitutional Carry. All these other Bills do is turn a Constitutional Right into a privilege granted by a State and as we know with privileges they can be revoked by the State for no other reason then they changed their mind, plus you have to pay to exercise a Constitutional Right thats been turned into a privilege. Somehow I find that patently offensive.
 
ladyT said:
Nothing is more important than Constitutional Carry. All these other Bills do is turn a Constitutional Right into a privilege granted by a State and as we know with privileges they can be revoked by the State for no other reason then they changed their mind, plus you have to pay to exercise a Constitutional Right thats been turned into a privilege. Somehow I find that patently offensive.
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I'd sure like to see Constitutional Carry here in Tenn. In the meantime, we've been chipping away at infringements as has Texas and most other states the past couple decades. Moving in the right direction isn't something I find offensive, but rather something to celebrate. That said, I do agree with you that infringements are the definition of offensive.

I think it's possible that Constitutional Carry could sweep the nation over the next 25 years as Shall Issue did the past 25. But there's still a ton of gun owners that are on the side of Bloomberg and his gaggle of nags when it comes to the subject. Just not psychologically prepared to embrace the notion of freedom. Hopefully the more infringements we continue to chip away will help them understand that freedom isn't so frightening.
 
ChattanoogaPhil said:
I'd sure like to see Constitutional Carry here in Tenn. In the meantime, we've been chipping away at infringements as has Texas and most other states the past couple decades. Moving in the right direction isn't something I find offensive, but rather something to celebrate. That said, I do agree with you that infringements are the definition of offensive.

I think it's possible that Constitutional Carry could sweep the nation over the next 25 years as Shall Issue did the past 25. But there's still a ton of gun owners that are on the side of Bloomberg and his gaggle of nags when it comes to the subject. Just not psychologically prepared to embrace the notion of freedom. Hopefully the more infringements we continue to chip away will help them understand that freedom isn't so frightening.
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In less than 25 years......
The U.S. might just be the only nation on Earth where the citizens are armed. Legally.
 
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ChattanoogaPhil said:
I'd sure like to see Constitutional Carry here in Tenn. In the meantime, we've been chipping away at infringements as has Texas and most other states the past couple decades. Moving in the right direction isn't something I find offensive, but rather something to celebrate. That said, I do agree with you that infringements are the definition of offensive.

I think it's possible that Constitutional Carry could sweep the nation over the next 25 years as Shall Issue did the past 25. But there's still a ton of gun owners that are on the side of Bloomberg and his gaggle of nags when it comes to the subject. Just not psychologically prepared to embrace the notion of freedom. Hopefully the more infringements we continue to chip away will help them understand that freedom isn't so frightening.
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That is one of the reasons I support and will participate in open carry. I feel the more John Q Public sees law abiding citizens openly displaying their rights the more comfortable they will feel about armed people they encounter. I, we, as responsible gun owners must display to the public at large, they have nothing to fear from us and in turn show the ner' do wells we are not afraid.

We will win back our Constitutional rights, as provided for, but not by sitting on the side lines, but by actively engaging in the process.

As Kieth44SPL say's " Boys, I can see it from here"
 
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DevilDog72 said:
That is one of the reasons I support and will participate in open carry. I feel the more John Q Pubic sees law abiding citizens openly displaying their rights the more comfortable they will feel about armed people they encounter. I, we, as responsible gun owners must display to the public at large, they have nothing to fear from us and in turn show the ner' do wells we are not afraid.

We will win back our Constitutional rights, as provided for, but not by sitting on the side lines, but by actively engaging in the process.

As Kieth44SPL say's " Boys, I can see it from here"
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Thats the way I grew up--seeing common folk armed out in public.It was natural as breathing in oxygen. Goto aost any restaurant--or conner grocery store--you would see handguns on pegs,rifles and shotguns leaning against the wall.As the eighties left us--many people just stopped openly carrying. Now--its going to take a LOT of responsible people to OC--and do often enough to put the screamers at ease--like it SHOULD have always been.I cnat wait tillI do start seeing more responsible folk--OC.

Besides,its getting tired of lugging around a rake-or shovel and not getting anywhere.:D
 
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